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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks lose Alex Edler for 4-6 weeks, Bo Horvat's comparables
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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 28 @ 4:44 PM ET
Nice to see they have plans to bring up Pedan eventral lyrics. I would prefer to see him in the lineup over Larsen or Biega.
Horvat hopefully gets rewarded accordingly. 6x5 would be fair.

- Reubenkincade

I know it's preferable hockey-wise, but you gotta feel bad for Biega, he'll likely go all year barely getting on the ice for anything but practice
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 28 @ 4:45 PM ET
Flyers have a slightly used Mark Streit or Andrew MacDonald you could acquire
- dragonoffrost



Some rangers fans proposed Dan Girardi the other day as well.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:47 PM ET
I know it's preferable hockey-wise, but you gotta feel bad for Biega, he'll likely go all year barely getting on the ice for anything but practice
- NorthNuck

I don't feel bad for guys that get paid $600K to workout and eat for free. Never have and never will. If you asked Biega, I suspect he would say this is his dream season. He was previously making $100k to ride buses.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 28 @ 4:47 PM ET
From day one in Horvat's first camp, it has been nothing but "WD is ruining Horvat's career". Month after month after month.... "He doesn't want him on the team", "He's not giving him enough ice time", "he's giving him too much ice time", "he's not given the right linemates to produce offense".... on and on. This confuses me... Horvat is already looking like he was underestimated by the scouting world and fans... he's only had one NHL coach... what do we really have if WD is so bad for him? The next Crosby if it were not for Willy?

I wonder how Horvat feels about this? He's steady trended upwards each season to the point where he is the scoring leader and in a dominate position for his contract negotiations... oh the oppression!!!!!

- boonerbuck


I know you are taking a jab and while I don't disagree with what most of what you are saying there's that whole " correlation doesn't imply causation " thing.

You could just as easily make the general statement that Edler has steadily gotten worse over WD's time here. Does that mean Edler is just getting older and less effective or is it because of WD?

Who knows if Horvat would of developed any differently under different circumstances or coaches but if the plan has been to win first and foremost as WD has said, I think there are legitimate question of why he has been deploying his " best" offensive forward in unfavorable situations.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 28 @ 4:50 PM ET
Nice to see they have plans to bring up Pedan eventral lyrics. I would prefer to see him in the lineup over Larsen or Biega.
Horvat hopefully gets rewarded accordingly. 6x5 would be fair.

- Reubenkincade


He needed/needs to play. Getting him through waivers was really good for him. I hope if they bring him up they get him in some games.....as a defensman...
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
It seems like these analytic guys in FLA are steering the ship, I wouldn't be surprised to see Yost end up being a GM at some point in time either. And I thought VAN was a sh*t show. I hope these stupid experiments in FLA & ARI blow up in their faces.

http://www.tsn.ca/examini...rs-under-gallant-1.618330
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
I don't feel bad for guys that get paid $600K to workout and eat for free. Never have and never will. If you asked Biega, I suspect he would say this is his dream season. He was previously making $100k to ride buses.
- CanuckDon


I imagine Biega as with most professional athletes want to play more than anything. That said it would be an interesting question to ask if he would sacrifice 500K to be playing every second day.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
He needed/needs to play. Getting him through waivers was really good for him. I hope if they bring him up they get him in some games.....as a defensman...
- belcherbd

Tree, Pedan, EG, Labatte, Dorset, and Skille in the lineup against the Leafs
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
I thought Lefty had alt accounts to shield him from criticism/ build up his self esteem. You are right, he is full of tricks
- CanuckDon

I believe this will be your attempt to beat me this week

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
I imagine Biega as with most professional athletes want to play more than anything. That said it would be an interesting question to ask if he would sacrifice 500K to be playing every second day.
- belcherbd

I can answer for Biega. Yes, he would prefer a 600% raise.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 28 @ 4:57 PM ET
Considering Horvat's talents are being wasted on this roster, I wonder what kind of return you could get for him.

If traded you can shift that talent to a later date. That gives team management time to compile a roster that has skill and potential on all lines, just not at one position.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of trading Horvat. He's more valuable as a trading chip.

Panthers would be a good place to start the bidding.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:57 PM ET
Considering Horvat's talents are being wasted on this roster, I wonder what kind of return you could get for him.

If traded you can shift that talent to a later date. That gives team management time to compile a roster that has skill and potential on all lines, just not at one position.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of trading Horvat. He's more valuable as a trading chip.

Panthers would be a good place to start the bidding.

- bloatedmosquito

Stop it....he's 21 and fits right into the rebuild mode
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
Considering Horvat's talents are being wasted on this roster, I wonder what kind of return you could get for him.

If traded you can shift that talent to a later date. That gives team management time to compile a roster that has skill and potential on all lines, just not at one position.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of trading Horvat. He's more valuable as a trading chip.

Panthers would be a good place to start the bidding.

- bloatedmosquito

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
Considering Horvat's talents are being wasted on this roster, I wonder what kind of return you could get for him.

If traded you can shift that talent to a later date. That gives team management time to compile a roster that has skill and potential on all lines, just not at one position.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of trading Horvat. He's more valuable as a trading chip.

Panthers would be a good place to start the bidding.

- bloatedmosquito



Confirmed: Nucker has hacked Mosquito's account
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 5:01 PM ET

I believe this will be your attempt to beat me this week


- LeftCoaster



I can't update my roster from work Do you have to select only one goalie per day/ week?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 28 @ 5:02 PM ET
I can answer for Biega. Yes, he would prefer a 600% raise.
- CanuckDon



Easy for you and I to say but we're not being paid 6 figures to do what you love. Hell I'm not even being paid 6 figures to do what I can tolerate.

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET


I can't update my roster from work Do you have to select only one goalie per day/ week?

- CanuckDon


Get a phone and the app....

you can dress 2 goalies a day and they can be changed daily.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Confirmed: Nucker has hacked Mosquito's account
- Codes1087

Nucker is a good poster....I miss him!

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Stop it....he's 21 and fits right into the rebuild mode
- LeftCoaster


What? I didn't say anything...

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Tree, Pedan, EG, Labatte, Dorset, and Skille in the lineup against the Leafs
- CanuckDon



Maybe or you put Grenier for DD if he's not ready.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
I believe this will be your attempt to beat me this week


- LeftCoaster

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 5:04 PM ET


I can't update my roster from work Do you have to select only one goalie per day/ week?

- CanuckDon

Set your roster and forget it
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 28 @ 5:07 PM ET
Set your roster and forget it
- LeftCoaster


Wait, can't he be like Vantel or Benning and make those hopeful trades?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 28 @ 5:08 PM ET
I know you are taking a jab and while I don't disagree with what most of what you are saying there's that whole " correlation doesn't imply causation " thing.

You could just as easily make the general statement that Edler has steadily gotten worse over WD's time here. Does that mean Edler is just getting older and less effective or is it because of WD?

Who knows if Horvat would of developed any differently under different circumstances or coaches but if the plan has been to win first and foremost as WD has said, I think there are legitimate question of why he has been deploying his " best" offensive forward in unfavorable situations.

- belcherbd


Edler was getting worse before WD so no you couldn't "just as easily".

Sure there are questions about why he uses Horvat the way he does. He has answered those questions when asked and the results are not contradicting him either. That doesn't change the narrative around here at all and that was the exact reason I made the sarcastic post. The accusations for the most part are flawed by the results. Now if you want to question why he puts his lines together "win first", sure... that is different than what I'm talking about.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 5:10 PM ET
What? I didn't say anything...

- bloatedmosquito

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