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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Nov 30 @ 5:04 PM ET
I think Schenn paid Provorov to push Trocheck on Couturier. All part of his devious plan to steal the 2C job forever.
- Feanor



Its clever and evil, and exactly the sort of thing I would do were I in his position.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
I think Schenn paid Provorov to push Trocheck on Couturier. All part of his devious plan to steal the 2C job forever.
- Feanor


After the countless times Vinny tried to kill someone, including Schenn, to take a roster spot, I guess he learned a thing or two...

SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 5:32 PM ET
We were spoiled by Laviolette's judicious use of the timeout and switch flipping.


- Flyskippy

Lavy was fantastic! I miss him a great deal.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 5:36 PM ET
so Schenn is now centering the 2nd line with Konecny and Simmonds
- nastyflyergirl

Good.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 5:45 PM ET
Sounds like you have a very close family.
- Mononoke


Maybe, maybe not. Schenn and Simmonds spent most of their first three seasons here together with Briere and than LeCavalier. From my standpoint, it's not like this line is a brand new element that has never been tried. Simmonds is a much improved player since that time. Whether people wanna hear it or not, Schenn is three years younger then Simmonds and Schenn is a more productive player in his career than a 25 year old Simmonds was. If Schenn can hold up well on the fourth line, I don't see why Schenn cannot be an upgrade over Cousins. I thought Cousins sucked last night.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 5:51 PM ET
Maybe, maybe not. Schenn and Simmonds spent most of their first three seasons here together with Briere and than LeCavalier. From my standpoint, it's not like this line is a brand new element that has never been tried. Simmonds is a much improved player since that time. Whether people wanna hear it or not, Schenn is three years younger then Simmonds and Schenn is a more productive player in his career than a 25 year old Simmonds was. If Schenn can hold up well on the fourth line, I don't see why Schenn cannot be an upgrade over Cousins. I thought Cousins sucked last night.
- SuperSchennBros


Have to love Cousins compete level, and how hard he plays, but he's just limited in a lot of ways. Not a great skater, doesn't have great size, not a 2 way player. He has good hands, and a good work ethic. He's another tweener in my opinion. He's okay for now, but I don't see him as the long term answer.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 5:58 PM ET
We enjoy a nice hug...
- mayorofangrytown


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:05 PM ET
They're no Cactus.


- jmatchett383


i'm not familiar with them.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:07 PM ET
TK is a cool nickname imo. Konecny is a pretty sweet last name in general
- Mordecai


when i hear "TK", it makes me think of star wars:

"TK-421, why aren't you at your post?"
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:08 PM ET
It also allows Panotch to write about things that are not what is happening on the ice. His typical MO. Had I known he hated it so, I would have WOOed at him when he walked past the Draft Kings Lounge last night.
- Flyskippy



hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:10 PM ET
seriously, they almost lost cause Mason didn't stop 9 of 9. Loser....trade him for a 7th rounder
- nastyflyergirl


it's incredible he stopped 8 of 9. and he was beat a couple of times too, but got fortunate for once.

and i knew that Richardbag marchand would score, too.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:16 PM ET
AMac @ 0:30
- jmatchett383



i find his play at 0:15 more interesting.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:22 PM ET
classic.....
- nastyflyergirl


i saw john cleese and eric idle perform last friday in ABQ and idle shared this story about harrison. he was apparently friends with python and even got a cameo in the film.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 30 @ 6:22 PM ET
i find his play at 0:15 more interesting.
- hammarby31


I think he was doing yoga poses or something
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:25 PM ET
traden schenn
- YuenglingJagr


it's only a matter of time.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 30 @ 6:27 PM ET
i find his play at 0:15 more interesting.
- hammarby31


I wish I could grasp on to what exactly Hakstol is trying to do. I personally don't think Mac has been horrible but it's more of a question of why is Manning sitting after having such a solid start? Ghost's one scratch I can forgive, Del Zotto probably has sat when he needed to but if Mac really needs to play, Streit is probably that guy to sit. You could point to the pairs not being a very good mix for some of this year season's shortcomings.

No excuse to make a 24 year old Lyubimov wait as long as Hakstol did in favor of players who really haven't been great in that bottom six.
SuperSchennBros
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Nov 30 @ 6:30 PM ET
it's only a matter of time.
- hammarby31


If we trade Schenn, it better be for something good. This is Sean Couturier's second season with a long term injury and in seasons past before the injuries,we've been waiting for consistent offense from Coots. Without Coots and trading Schenn, how good does this team look on paper? Be careful of what you wish for, the grass is always greener and all that.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:34 PM ET
I wish I could grasp on to what exactly Hakstol is trying to do. I personally don't think Mac has been horrible but it's more of a question of why is Manning sitting after having such a solid start? Ghost's one scratch I can forgive, Del Zotto probably has sat when he needed to but if Mac really needs to play, Streit is probably that guy to sit. You could point to the pairs not being a very good mix for some of this year season's shortcomings.

No excuse to make a 24 year old Lyubimov wait as long as Hakstol did in favor of players who really haven't been great in that bottom six.

- SuperSchennBros


i think manning is hurt now, otherwise he'd be in.

Amac, Streit, Schultz...man....all decent at one time...need to be gone.

I really don't get Hakstol's roster decisions and line combos. at all.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 6:38 PM ET
If we trade Schenn, it better be for something good. This is Sean Couturier's second season with a long term injury and in seasons past before the injuries,we've been waiting for consistent offense from Coots. Without Coots and trading Schenn, how good does this team look on paper? Be careful of what you wish for, the grass is always greener and all that.
- SuperSchennBros


i'm not wishing for it, but if it happens, i won't be surprised, and hope to hell we get a good return. i'm also not thinking it will happen any time soon. that said, schenn just disappoints me. repeatedly.

coots missing from this lineup really hurts. thin at center. these two guys are a big piece of this team. they both leave me lacking, honestly.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 30 @ 7:06 PM ET
i'm not wishing for it, but if it happens, i won't be surprised, and hope to hell we get a good return. i'm also not thinking it will happen any time soon. that said, schenn just disappoints me. repeatedly.

coots missing from this lineup really hurts. thin at center. these two guys are a big piece of this team. they both leave me lacking, honestly.

- hammarby31


I think we'd all rather see Schenn put it together. We've waited for years to see him put it all together and we'd rather him do it here.

At the same time, Schenn's at the stage where he may well be who he is. Not a bad player, but a frustrating one, that almost always seems capable of more than he delivers.

Couturier is frustrating, too. He might never be the scorer we had hoped. The thing is, Couturier does a lot of things well. His scoring is acceptable for a third line center and as long as he remains a top end shutdown guy and driver of play(even without the production we'd like) he's providing more than Schenn has in an overall sense.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think we'd all rather see Schenn put it together. We've waited for years to see him put it all together and we'd rather him do it here.

At the same time, Schenn's at the stage where he may well be who he is. Not a bad player, but a frustrating one, that almost always seems capable of more than he delivers.

Couturier is frustrating, too. He might never be the scorer we had hoped. The thing is, Couturier does a lot of things well. His scoring is acceptable for a third line center and as long as he remains a top end shutdown guy and driver of play(even without the production we'd like) he's providing more than Schenn has in an overall sense.

- Jsaquella



Maybe it helps Schenn by being put for good at one spot & then maybe it helps the team by moving Couturier back to 3rd line center.........And it helps the team overall.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 30 @ 7:20 PM ET
Maybe it helps Schenn by being put for good at one spot & then maybe it helps the team by moving Couturier back to 3rd line center.........And it helps the team overall.
- ob18


If Schenn can be the 2C, then it works out great for the Flyers. Still not sold he can be and I have concerns about his two way play. There's times Schenn seems as interested in back checking as I do in the lives of the Kardashians
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 7:24 PM ET
If Schenn can be the 2C, then it works out great for the Flyers. Still not sold he can be and I have concerns about his two way play. There's times Schenn seems as interested in back checking as I do in the lives of the Kardashians
- Jsaquella


All I can do is hope...............
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 30 @ 7:34 PM ET
Couturier already proved he is the 2C and one of the better ones in the league. A few weeks of non-scoring doesn't override that. Maybe we can trade him for Monahan with his 9 points or Bergeron and his 6 points -- with more PP time too. Just last year he was the Flyers best scorer at 5v5. He has great advanced stats this year still. If he didn't get injured, odds are heavily in his favor the points would've come. And they still will. I bet on it. I thought this Coots stuff ended last season.

Why Brayden Schenn -- who has played 4th line levels this year, has proved he is not a long-term center in the NHL, and needs better players to carry him -- is a better option for 2C, when Couturier will always get 2C minutes anyway, just is beyond me. Schenn is still sitting at 4 5v5 points this year to Couturier's 6 points anyway. He's scoring and playing at even worse levels.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 30 @ 7:40 PM ET
Couturier already proved he is the 2C and one of the better ones in the league. A few weeks of non-scoring doesn't override that. Maybe we can trade him for Monahan with his 9 points or Bergeron and his 6 points. Just last year he was the Flyers best scorer at 5v5. He has great advanced stats this year still. If he didn't get injured, odds are heavily in his favor the points would've come. And they still will. I bet on it.

Why Brayden Schenn -- who has played 4th line levels this year, has proved he is not a long-term center in the NHL, and needs better players to carry him -- is a better option for 2C, when Couturier will always get 2C minutes anyway, just is beyond me. Schenn is still sitting at 4 5v5 points this year to Couturier's 6 points anyway. He's scoring at even worse levels.

- Mononoke

Let's put it this way. The fact that Schenn didn't start looking decent until being on the fourth line is not a good thing.
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