Couturier already proved he is the 2C and one of the better ones in the league. A few weeks of non-scoring doesn't override that. Maybe we can trade him for Monahan with his 9 points or Bergeron and his 6 points -- with more PP time too. Just last year he was the Flyers best scorer at 5v5. He has great advanced stats this year still. If he didn't get injured, odds are heavily in his favor the points would've come. And they still will. I bet on it. I thought this Coots stuff ended last season.

Why Brayden Schenn -- who has played 4th line levels this year, has proved he is not a long-term center in the NHL, and needs better players to carry him -- is a better option for 2C, when Couturier will always get 2C minutes anyway, just is beyond me. Schenn is still sitting at 4 5v5 points this year to Couturier's 6 points anyway. He's scoring and playing at even worse levels.
- Mononoke

How can we expect Schenn to score at even strength when he spends most of his time with Giroux? Clearly he's been better when he isn't weighed down 5v5

Couturier already proved he is the 2C and one of the better ones in the league. A few weeks of non-scoring doesn't override that. Maybe we can trade him for Monahan with his 9 points or Bergeron and his 6 points -- with more PP time too. Just last year he was the Flyers best scorer at 5v5. He has great advanced stats this year still. If he didn't get injured, odds are heavily in his favor the points would've come. And they still will. I bet on it. I thought this Coots stuff ended last season.

Why Brayden Schenn -- who has played 4th line levels this year, has proved he is not a long-term center in the NHL, and needs better players to carry him -- is a better option for 2C, when Couturier will always get 2C minutes anyway, just is beyond me. Schenn is still sitting at 4 5v5 points this year to Couturier's 6 points anyway. He's scoring and playing at even worse levels.
- Mononoke

Trade him for Boring Monahan

Monahan has 9 points in 25 games and wouldn't get near 60 playing in Philly, not unless he took Schenn's spot on PP1.

I think we'd all rather see Schenn put it together. We've waited for years to see him put it all together and we'd rather him do it here.

At the same time, Schenn's at the stage where he may well be who he is. Not a bad player, but a frustrating one, that almost always seems capable of more than he delivers.

Couturier is frustrating, too. He might never be the scorer we had hoped. The thing is, Couturier does a lot of things well. His scoring is acceptable for a third line center and as long as he remains a top end shutdown guy and driver of play(even without the production we'd like) he's providing more than Schenn has in an overall sense.
- Jsaquella

He paced for 50 points just last season. He was the team's best 5 on 5 scorer just last season. That's second line production, not third line.

Monahan has 9 points in 25 games and wouldn't get near 60 playing in Philly, not unless he took Schenn's spot on PP1.



He paced for 50 points just last season. He was the team's best 5 on 5 scorer just last season. That's second line production, not third line.
- Feanor

Really he's produced second line numbers even before last season. Last year, at 5v5, he produced TOP line numbers scoring and beyond scoring, in among league difficult minutes. There, I said it.

How have Konecny and Jake looked apart from Couturier? They were the top line with him. And like magic, both of them have been in a rut, though Jake has been better the last game or so ignoring last night. Konecny looks very much like a rookie, albeit a dynamic one, who has had a whole lot less time on the puck and many less scoring chances.

Monahan has 9 points in 25 games and wouldn't get near 60 playing in Philly, not unless he took Schenn's spot on PP1.



He paced for 50 points just last season. He was the team's best 5 on 5 scorer just last season. That's second line production, not third line.
- Feanor

I know what he paced for, I've long been a Couturier advocate. I mean his raw scoring totals (35 points) were fine for his role

I'm just saying it'd be great if Schenn could find a niche and perform for the Flyers at a high level.

I absolutely feverishly believe in Coots. He had some weird defensive turnovers, which aren't anything worrisome long-term, and I think he deferred too much the last couple weeks, but he was still doing good things and so was the line as the de facto line 1. His scoring would've come sooner or later.

More worrisome is the PP2, and his lack of production from there, and I'm not even sure it's his fault. How can a unit with Konecny, Provorov, Streit, Couturier look so meh? I know the Flyers PP1 is killing it, but they have some of if not the most elite PP players at their positions on that unit. A chimp could coach that unit to success. And that second unit is ass backwards by Mullen. Couturier is on the left point instead of in front of the net, Konecny never touches the puck and is reduced to screening, they have zero set plays besides Provorov/Streit 1-timer or Couturier circle back shot. With personnel that good, it's downright simplistic and robotic. Mullen doesn't do anything at all for the PP2, not that he really does anything for the PP1 either, just letting them do what they've always done.

Sixers lol. I was going to watch that too.

I absolutely feverishly believe in Coots. He had some weird defensive turnovers, which aren't anything worrisome long-term, and I think he deferred too much the last couple weeks, but he was still doing good things and so was the line as the de facto line 1. His scoring would've come sooner or later.

More worrisome is the PP2, and his lack of production from there, and I'm not even sure it's his fault. How can a unit with Konecny, Provorov, Streit, Couturier look so meh? I know the Flyers PP1 is killing it, but they have some of if not the most elite PP players at their positions on that unit. A chimp could coach that unit to success. And that second unit is ass backwards by Mullen. Couturier is on the left point instead of in front of the net, Konecny never touches the puck and is reduced to screening, they have zero set plays besides Provorov/Streit 1-timer or Couturier circle back shot. With personnel that good, it's downright simplistic and robotic. Mullen doesn't do anything at all for the PP2, not that he really does anything for the PP1 either, just letting them do what they've always done.
- Mononoke

I'd rather see Couturier playing the high slot or the right wall on the PP2(either Schenn or Voracek spots) with Konecny playing along the left wall (the Giroux spot). Having a guy on his off wing there opens up a lot more options, plus with Konecny's waterbug like mobility, he's a more natural fit for the spot.

I'd rather see Couturier playing the high slot or the right wall on the PP2(either Schenn or Voracek spots) with Konecny playing along the left wall (the Giroux spot). Having a guy on his off wing there opens up a lot more options, plus with Konecny's waterbug like mobility, he's a more natural fit for the spot.
- Jsaquella

I'd also double shift Simmonds on the pp the way they used to do with Kerr. No other Flyer can do what he does around the net. Other guys can kill penalties, let Simmonds do what he does best.

I'd rather see Couturier playing the high slot or the right wall on the PP2(either Schenn or Voracek spots) with Konecny playing along the left wall (the Giroux spot). Having a guy on his off wing there opens up a lot more options, plus with Konecny's waterbug like mobility, he's a more natural fit for the spot.
- Jsaquella

I want coots and konecny to switch spots

I want coots and konecny to switch spots
- YuenglingJagr

The funny thing is with Couturier out, you'd think they'd put Konecny there.....but no. They stick Cousins in that spot now. JFC Mullen.

evening all!

The funny thing is with Couturier out, you'd think they'd put Konecny there.....but no. They stick Cousins in that spot now. JFC Mullen.
- Mononoke

Can't trust the PP to run through a rookie...

evening all!
- stayinthefnnet

It's morning in Vietnam

sounds like you just googled 10 really popular bands


question....can you rank beatles albums...beatlesbuzz
- YuenglingJagr

1. Abbey Road: the swan song. The End is masterpiece.
2. Sgt Pepper: changed everything
3. Let It Be: Me and Dad do a rousing rendition of Two of Us, and our band plays a number of tunes off this album. My license plate is 909 one.
4. Beatles For Sale: Words of Love is a top 3 Beatles song for me
5. Rubber Soul: In My Life, Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man...the beginning of the "new sound"
6. Help!: George doesn't get enough credit outside of Something. I Need You and You Like Me Too Much are terrific.
7. Revolver: And Your Bird Can Sing is, without a doubt, my favorite Beatles song
8. The White Album: Everything from Helter Skelter to Mother Nature's Son to Long Long Long to Yer Blues. Lot of classics and variety on this double.
9. Please Please Me: what can be a better start to a career than "one two three FOUR...!" Absolutely love the marathon recording session story, culminating with Twist and Shout
10. Hard Day's Night: If I Fell, I'll Be Back, Tell Me Why...all great and somewhat obscure
11: Magical Mystery Tour: let's all get up and dance to a song that was a hit before BiggE was born. Though he was born a long long time ago...BiggE should know
12: Yellow Sub: this (half) album is (frank)ing awesome. Hey Bulldog, and George delivering 2 more (frank)ing great songs with It's All Too Much and Only a Northern Song.
13: With the Beatles: featuring GiG's first favorite song ever, Please Mister Postman

In reality, the rankings go

Abbey Road, Sgt Pepper
Beatles For Sale, Let It Be, Rubber Soul
Everything else

The funny thing is with Couturier out, you'd think they'd put Konecny there.....but no. They stick Cousins in that spot now. JFC Mullen.
- Mononoke

I'd rather see Couturier playing the high slot or the right wall on the PP2(either Schenn or Voracek spots) with Konecny playing along the left wall (the Giroux spot). Having a guy on his off wing there opens up a lot more options, plus with Konecny's waterbug like mobility, he's a more natural fit for the spot.
- Jsaquella

I threw this out there about Couturier on the PP and I believe someone got touchy about it, making the point that it's easier for poor Coots to pass on the left side.

If people are disappointed with Schenn, I cannot convince them otherwise. I'm a firm believer in the kid. We all know he's inconsistent. We all know he doesn't have a great two way game playing in the middle. With all of this in mind bouncing him from center to wing, from line mates to line mates isn't gonna help him either. What I'll continue to point out is Schenn is a way better point collector than Simmonds was three years ago at age 25. Schenn is never gonna be on the same level as Simmonds from a physical standpoint and it's unreasonable to expect it. So if Schenn's point totals keep getting better every season and Simmonds looks like he's capable of a Breakout all-star season for the first time in his career at age 28, why can't Schenn continue to get better at 25 moving along?

Carter Hart is a bust

Carter Hart is a bust
- wilsonecho91

3 straight shutouts and video game numbers of 1.59GAA and .939 save%.

2Real is already making his voodoo doll of Bad Goalie Carter Hart.

3 straight shutouts and video game numbers of 1.59GAA and .939 save%.

2Real is already making his voodoo doll of Bad Goalie Carter Hart.
- Mononoke

He's the long lost Hart brother. Carter the sieve Hart

He's the long lost Hart brother. Carter the sieve Hart
- wilsonecho91

Nicknamed "Murmur"

3 straight shutouts and video game numbers of 1.59GAA and .939 save%.

2Real is already making his voodoo doll of Bad Goalie Carter Hart.
- Mononoke

haha I love it.

1. Abbey Road: the swan song. The End is masterpiece.
2. Sgt Pepper: changed everything
3. Let It Be: Me and Dad do a rousing rendition of Two of Us, and our band plays a number of tunes off this album. My license plate is 909 one.
4. Beatles For Sale: Words of Love is a top 3 Beatles song for me
5. Rubber Soul: In My Life, Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man...the beginning of the "new sound"
6. Help!: George doesn't get enough credit outside of Something. I Need You and You Like Me Too Much are terrific.
7. Revolver: And Your Bird Can Sing is, without a doubt, my favorite Beatles song
8. The White Album: Everything from Helter Skelter to Mother Nature's Son to Long Long Long to Yer Blues. Lot of classics and variety on this double.
9. Please Please Me: what can be a better start to a career than "one two three FOUR...!" Absolutely love the marathon recording session story, culminating with Twist and Shout
10. Hard Day's Night: If I Fell, I'll Be Back, Tell Me Why...all great and somewhat obscure
11: Magical Mystery Tour: let's all get up and dance to a song that was a hit before BiggE was born. Though he was born a long long time ago...BiggE should know
12: Yellow Sub: this (half) album is (frank)ing awesome. Hey Bulldog, and George delivering 2 more (frank)ing great songs with It's All Too Much and Only a Northern Song.
13: With the Beatles: featuring GiG's first favorite song ever, Please Mister Postman

In reality, the rankings go

Abbey Road, Sgt Pepper
Beatles For Sale, Let It Be, Rubber Soul
Everything else
- Giroux_Is_God

It really is funny, I have 3 other friends who are absolute Beatles fanatics. Their favorite albums are:
Sgt. Pepper
Rubber Soul
Help

So, go figure, 5 Beatles fans, 5 all time favorite Beatles albums. That's what happens when every album by a great band kicks ass!!

I also love "And Your Bird Can Sing", but I think my favorite track on Revolver is still "She Said, She Said", but hell, there are at least 6 or 7 tracks on that album that are absolutely amazing!

I'd rather see Couturier playing the high slot or the right wall on the PP2(either Schenn or Voracek spots) with Konecny playing along the left wall (the Giroux spot). Having a guy on his off wing there opens up a lot more options, plus with Konecny's waterbug like mobility, he's a more natural fit for the spot.
- Jsaquella

I think with experience that is what will eventually happen. I think right now they prefer the Couturier experience on the half wall. But I would actually like Couturier in Streit's spot on PP2. Provorov at the top of the umbrella with Konecny on the halfwall.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cousin's in the slot and than whoever in front of the net.