Lost in this debate is the fact that Risto made a weak play at the line on an easy clear attempt that kept the play alive in the Sabres zone. I hope Guhle gets more time with the big club.
- Pierceme69

In 3 games with Eichel dressed, 2 of which with McCabe instead of Gorges, Ristolainen is still a drag on possession.

It's starting to look like he isn't all he's cracked up to be IMO.

In 3 games with Eichel dressed, 2 of which with McCabe instead of Gorges, Ristolainen is still a drag on possession.

It's starting to look like he isn't all he's cracked up to be IMO.
- sbroads24

Here we (frank)ing go

Wow, the Gators just destroyed Bama's defense on that opening drive. Not saying it will happen because it most likely won't, but I would love to see Bama lose. I don't care for UF but I can't stand Bama or Saban.

Wow, the Gators just destroyed Bama's defense on that opening drive. Not saying it will happen because it most likely won't, but I would love to see Bama lose. I don't care for UF but I can't stand Bama or Saban.
- doppelthat

That would be awesome.

It went to himself, however he deliberately directed it towards his teammate.
- Mentalorgasm5

Guys it doesn't matter a whistle will not happen unless a player other than the person who started the hand pass touches the puck.

Directed, deliberately, it does NOT matter.

Bergeron directed it (not even with his hand mind you, more like off his arm) Bergeron was the first to touch it. End of story.

That is how the rule has always been applied (at least in my lifetime)

Here we (frank)ing go
- feetontheair22

Yeah...

In 3 games with Eichel dressed, 2 of which with McCabe instead of Gorges, Ristolainen is still a drag on possession.

It's starting to look like he isn't all he's cracked up to be IMO.
- sbroads24

I mean they also did play 2 pretty good teams.

In 3 games with Eichel dressed, 2 of which with McCabe instead of Gorges, Ristolainen is still a drag on possession.

It's starting to look like he isn't all he's cracked up to be IMO.
- sbroads24

Oh FFS...

Your fancy stats do not tell the entire story

You just want to be the smartest guy in the room

That would be awesome.
- Wetbandit1

Agreed!

Guys it doesn't matter a whistle will not happen unless a player other than the person who started the hand pass touches the puck.

Directed, deliberately, it does NOT matter.

Bergeron directed it (not even with his hand mind you, more like off his arm) Bergeron was the first to touch it. End of story.

That is how the rule has always been applied (at least in my lifetime)
- Stripes77

You've got the wrong rule, or you're misapplying it. It clearly says "or has
allowed his team to gain an advantage" My point is, they're doing it wrong. Either start applying the rule as written, or (frank)ing change it!

Guys it doesn't matter a whistle will not happen unless a player other than the person who started the hand pass touches the puck.

Directed, deliberately, it does NOT matter.

Bergeron directed it (not even with his hand mind you, more like off his arm) Bergeron was the first to touch it. End of story.

That is how the rule has always been applied (at least in my lifetime)
- Stripes77

I must not be seeing the same replay on Sportsnet than the rest of you then as its pretty clear to me that Paternak touches the puck.

You've got the wrong rule, or you're misapplying it. It clearly says "or has
allowed his team to gain an advantage" My point is, they're doing it wrong. Either start applying the rule as written, or (frank)ing change it!
- Wetbandit1

Every single ref, NHL, AHL, ECHL, NCAA, Junior Hockey, USA Hockey, Hockey Canada calls it this way.

If the person who started the "hand pass" is the first to play it play on.

Which is why the rule I posted is the rule they use. That is directly from this years 2016-2017 NHL rule book.

I must not be seeing the same replay on Sportsnet than the rest of you then as its pretty clear to me that Paternak touches the puck.
- BigStew

https://twitter.com/myreg...status/805148328509861888

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/805148328509861888
- Stripes77

Don't have twitter but the replay on Sportsnet shows the swing by Paternak and the puck clearly moving the other way afterwards. He definitely hit it.

Agreed!
- Stripes77

If UF won would you keep Bama out of the playoffs? Bama beat USC at the beginning of the season when USC lost their first 3 of 4, they beat decent Auburn, Texas A&M, and LSU teams. None of their other wins are very impressive IMO.
I would assume Bama would stay in the top 4 and eventually win the championship anyway.

Oh FFS...

Your fancy stats do not tell the entire story

You just want to be the smartest guy in the room
- Stripes77

Did I tell an entire story? I said he's still a drag on possession. He is.

Every single ref, NHL, AHL, ECHL, NCAA, Junior Hockey, USA Hockey, Hockey Canada calls it this way.

If the person who started the "hand pass" is the first to play it play on.

Which is why the rule I posted is the rule they use. That is directly from this years 2016-2017 NHL rule book.
- Stripes77

I agree with this as its the way its always been called.

NJ has come back from a 4-1 deficit against Nashville to tie the game.

In 3 games with Eichel dressed, 2 of which with McCabe instead of Gorges, Ristolainen is still a drag on possession.

It's starting to look like he isn't all he's cracked up to be IMO.
- sbroads24

He is a good #2.

He is a good #2.
- rmiethaner

Yes

Eichel didn't score...


only a 2nd line Center

Wow, the Gators just destroyed Bama's defense on that opening drive. Not saying it will happen because it most likely won't, but I would love to see Bama lose. I don't care for UF but I can't stand Bama or Saban.
- doppelthat

I want to see Alabama roll and win the championship again.

I love Alabama and Saban.

Never understood why people don't like watching greatness like that program or the New England Patriots, Brady, and Belichick. Glad I am alive to see it.

Did I tell an entire story? I said he's still a drag on possession. He is.
- sbroads24

You're a drag on these boards...

Did I tell an entire story? I said he's still a drag on possession. He is.
- sbroads24

To be fair, you did say he's looking like he isn't all he's cracked up to be. I think possession is fair, I guess, but he's a top pair defender...this team, other teams...still a top pair guy and one of the elite young defensemen in this league.

Eichel didn't score...


only a 2nd line Center


- feetontheair22

When he doesn't score for 30 games get back to me