you hear a lot about roller hockey in so. cal...not so in other places...that said, 'burgy' had a pretty good camp and I thought he had a shot at being the No. 7 d-man on the sabres opening night roster based upon his play in preseason
- Michael Pachla

So. Cal, St. Louis area, and Long Island/NJ are all "hotbeds" (again, relatively) of roller hockey. There are obviously good players from other places, but the most consistently-good players predominately come from those areas.

Bobby Ryan and Stastny were roller guys, Pat Maroon too (he is a good friend of a buddy of mine). Darren Turcotte at one point (or maybe still) coaches one of the Team USA's (there are two). There's a lot more that have played I just can't think of them off the top of my head. It's a fun sport to play/watch, but obviously it isn't particularly popular and I understand why.

Robin Lehner (5-8-3, 2.38, .922) vs. Braden Holtby (10-6-2, 2.16, .922)
- Michael Pachla

Shows are goal scoring is a bit lacking .

Enroth SV% 0.872
Lehner SV% 0.922

Your breath stinks, and I know why
- Der Kaiser

lehner would have similar numbers in front of the leafs d

the d makes 80% of the goalie

the goalies that are winners, find ways to get shutouts instead of 1 goal games or win shoot outs

your better than that

Shows are goal scoring is a bit lacking .
- cabin

unless you face lehner in ot or the shoot out

Robin Lehner (5-8-3, 2.38, .922) vs. Braden Holtby (10-6-2, 2.16, .922)
- Michael Pachla

if lehner is above average, he would have a winning record in shoot outs and ot, thus similar w/l record

unless you face lehner in ot or the shoot out
- homiedclown

Good point. But.... He will let 1 or 2 in during regulation. The rest of the team cannot score 1 or 2 to be in the game . Score 3 and win it Not gonna happen.

Good point. But.... He will let 1 or 2 in during regulation. The rest of the team cannot score 1 or 2 to win the game .
- cabin

if your playing a goalie 65%-70% of the games, he is fine for a starter


he is no horse you ride for 70 games a year


there are IMO a handful of goalies worth paying big money and riding, and a lot of 1A goalies, which lehner is

Robin Lehner (5-8-3, 2.38, .922) vs. Braden Holtby (10-6-2, 2.16, .922)
- Michael Pachla

Another interesting one

Henrik Lundqvist (12-7-1, 2.47, .914)

if lehner is above average, he would have a winning record in shoot outs and ot, thus similar w/l record
- homiedclown

isn't holtby 0-2 in shootouts this season?

if lehner is above average, he would have a winning record in shoot outs and ot, thus similar w/l record
- homiedclown

The goalie is not the problem....

Can't put the OT/SO losses on just him, just like you can't put them just on the rest of the team. You need guys that can score and you need a goalie that doesn't allow the other team to score. Currently, we don't have either of those.

pham:

Erik Burgdoerfer becomes the 11th defenseman to dress for Buffalo this season.
- Michael Pachla

I thought we were a little thin on D to begin this season. Not sure why he didn't bring in Carlo at this point?

Lehner is fine. But I cant think of 1 game outside of the Ottawa game where I felt he stole a win for us.

Lehner is oft-average

The goalie is not the problem....

Can't put the OT/SO losses on just him, just like you can't put them just on the rest of the team. You need guys that can score and you need a goalie that doesn't allow the other team to score. Currently, we don't have either of those.
- HonkFortheGoose

Lehner is terrible in the shootout

The goalie is not the problem....

Can't put the OT/SO losses on just him, just like you can't put them just on the rest of the team. You need guys that can score and you need a goalie that doesn't allow the other team to score. Currently, we don't have either of those.
- HonkFortheGoose

it's not the problem

it's also not elite to steal more than the few games needed to go from a lottery team to a playoff bubble team


I have no issues keeping 2 goalies on the cheap with 5 mil going out each year in a cap era

If we find out tomorrow Lehner is extended at 6 years 6 per, it's a different story

isn't holtby 0-2 in shootouts this season?
- Michael Pachla

Yup. Sure is. 8 shots against, 5 goals against, 3 saves.

Lehner is also 0-2, and has 0 saves. However, the fact that he has 2 losses and has only faced 4 shots in the SO tells me that the guys doing the shooting for us aren't helping matters any either....

it's not the problem

it's also not elite to steal more than the few games needed to go from a lottery team to a playoff bubble team


I have no issues keeping 2 goalies on the cheap with 5 mil going out each year in a cap era

If we find out tomorrow Lehner is extended at 6 years 6 per, it's a different story
- homiedclown

The only thing getting extended is his knee probably. Oft-injured

Yup. Sure is. 8 shots against, 5 goals against, 3 saves.

Lehner is also 0-2, and has 0 saves. However, the fact that he has 2 losses and has only faced 4 shots in the SO tells me that the guys doing the shooting for us aren't helping matters any either....
- HonkFortheGoose

true dat on the shooters

it's not the problem

it's also not elite to steal more than the few games needed to go from a lottery team to a playoff bubble team


I have no issues keeping 2 goalies on the cheap with 5 mil going out each year in a cap era

If we find out tomorrow Lehner is extended at 6 years 6 per, it's a different story
- homiedclown

I'll admit, I think Lehner looked better last year (with the wonky ankle) but I think it has more to do with the fact that the D is the major issue.

The other issue is that for a good majority of the season, this team hasn't been able to score more than 1 goal a game.

Lehner is fine. But I cant think of 1 game outside of the Ottawa game where I felt he stole a win for us.

Lehner is oft-average
- sbroads24

ding ding ding


not a problem with his current cap hit

when you have goalies on the cheap, if your a decent team, you need better production for what your paying bogo, and need to have that rock d man on the top pair to go with risto


you can't piss away 1/2 your cap on crap bottom roster players

moulson, gionta, franson, bogo, etc

The only thing getting extended is his knee probably. Oft-injured
- sbroads24

giggle giggle

Yup. Sure is. 8 shots against, 5 goals against, 3 saves.

Lehner is also 0-2, and has 0 saves. However, the fact that he has 2 losses and has only faced 4 shots in the SO tells me that the guys doing the shooting for us aren't helping matters any either....
- HonkFortheGoose

Funny comment Lehner made . They practice shootouts every practice and always makes the save .

Maybe the shooters suck at shootouts or are not NHL players

I'll admit, I think Lehner looked better last year (with the wonky ankle) but I think it has more to do with the fact that the D is the major issue.

The other issue is that for a good majority of the season, this team hasn't been able to score more than 1 goal a game.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think he looks better this season, much quicker, imo...

but the fact remains, Burgdoerfer will be the 11th defenseman dressed for buffalo so far this season

I too thought Burgdoerfer had a shot at being the #7 D-Man to start the season, He had a very strong camp and played well throughout the Pre-Season, I am excited to see him play tonight, I hope does good enough so that he gets a second game at home.
By the way, Guhle looked really comfortable out there on Saturday, he had one shift where he played the situation perfectly and I said that Brad May would highlight that shift to show his capabilities between periods and he did, giving him 5 check marks for what he did right on the shift.

I think he looks better this season, much quicker, imo...

but the fact remains, Burgdoerfer will be the 11th defenseman dressed for buffalo so far this season
- Michael Pachla

Haircut and shaved ?

Haircut and shaved ?
- cabin

nope...kinda liked that wild man look