Ferland does deserve a raise, 4yr 2.75mil? He's producing at a 3 line rate. But he does bring the extra intangibles, the kid is tough.
- Kaynine

I would be happy with that ...he had been pretty good this year actually .. I thought he was pretty terrible most of last year but this year he is different ...i think they tried to get him to be a top 6 guy last year and he just isn't that guy ...in his role this year

Probably not enough of UFA yrs. I believe he is a UFA after next yr.
- Kaynine

I think he is Ufa this year isn't he ?

I was thinking he is 28 and at his peak so he can sign his biggest contract then

I would be happy with that ...he had been pretty good this year actually .. I thought he was pretty terrible most of last year but this year he is different ...i think they tried to get him to be a top 6 guy last year and he just isn't that guy ...in his role this year
- Redmile247

Yeah u want to capitalize on his strengths. Playing top 6 might have put too much pressure on him. Although, I am a firm believer in the sophomore jinx. Most players seem to struggle in their second yrs.

I would be happy with that ...he had been pretty good this year actually .. I thought he was pretty terrible most of last year but this year he is different ...i think they tried to get him to be a top 6 guy last year and he just isn't that guy ...in his role this year
- Redmile247

Evenin'

I'd say that Ferland is probably the Flames version of Martin - Similar shot generation/suppression stats, plays with the same edge, will probably get a few more points though. I think that you can probably get him for less (whether salary/term), but he's definitely a good guy to have around

I think he is Ufa this year isn't he ?

I was thinking he is 28 and at his peak so he can sign his biggest contract then
- Redmile247

He's 24 and this is his 6th season.

Evenin'

I'd say that Ferland is probably the Flames version of Martin - Similar shot generation/suppression stats, plays with the same edge, will probably get a few more points though. I think that you can probably get him for less (whether salary/term), but he's definitely a good guy to have around
- lumlums

Ferland is younger with a little more offensive upside. But yeah every teams guys like Martin\Ferland.

I hear you, there definitely are some subjects that appear ad nauseam (Kadri hit, tank versus re-tool, replacing the twins, Vantel & Don, coaching etc)

Whining about hypothetical contracts is relatively rare occurrence, assuming Sbisa isn't mentioned


- Whiskey-Tango

Sbisa is earning his contract this year....

Yeah u want to capitalize on his strengths. Playing top 6 might have put too much pressure on him. Although, I am a firm believer in the sophomore jinx. Most players seem to struggle in their second yrs.
- Kaynine

I think early success can be an issue too ...sometimes things come easier than they should and it evens out second year

Sbisa is earning his contract this year....
- CanuckDon

Agreed, he has been one of Van's more consistent dmen

Ferland is younger with a little more offensive upside. But yeah every teams guys like Martin\Ferland.
- Kaynine

Yeah for sure, from what I've seen Ferland definitely has a bit more to offer on the scoresheet. A nice guy to have on the lower lines though

Evenin'

I'd say that Ferland is probably the Flames version of Martin - Similar shot generation/suppression stats, plays with the same edge, will probably get a few more points though. I think that you can probably get him for less (whether salary/term), but he's definitely a good guy to have around
- lumlums

I see what you did there

He's 24 and this is his 6th season.
- Kaynine

He will be 25 this off season ...thus he will be 28 when my proposal of 3 years is up ...should have clarified better I guess

Ferland is younger with a little more offensive upside. But yeah every teams guys like Martin\Ferland.
- Kaynine

Agreed

I just thought he was comparing them as canuck villains that all

I have heard that in the past, my buddy A_SL called me a waste of skin once, I'm still crying and traumatized.......joking
- Makita

Shocked

Agreed

I just thought he was comparing them as canuck villains that all
- Redmile247

According to Patty O'Sullivan every player\team are Canucks villains

I see what you did there
- Redmile247

Lol, not intentionally

I'm one of those stats nerds and when I looked up Ferland, one thing that stood out was how similar he was to MM - low shot generation, but very high shot suppression. Plus he plays the same kind of heavy game.

He will be 25 this off season ...thus he will be 28 when my proposal of 3 years is up ...should have clarified better I guess
- Redmile247

I'm a Canuck fan, we can be a little thick

Sbisa is earning his contract this year....
- CanuckDon

and the haters said pigs would never fly.

According to Patty O'Sullivan every player\team are Canucks villains
- Kaynine

Don't get me wrong, I understand his dislike of AB, but the rest is taking it quite over the top

According to Patty O'Sullivan every player\team are Canucks villains
- Kaynine

The way he talks one would think he was bullied by Canucks players as a child

The way he talks one would think he was bullied by Canucks players as a child
- Redmile247

You know his story with Burrows, right?

I'm a Canuck fan, we can be a little thick
- Kaynine

I just assumed I left out a part or something

Don't get me wrong, I understand his dislike of AB, but the rest is taking it quite over the top
- lumlums

Yeah I get the AB thing, but he just sounded like someone wanting his 15min of fame. He took advantage of the game on Sat and the hype. Whats sad is he he's paid for his opinion.

Lol, not intentionally

I'm one of those smug nerds and when I looked up Ferland, one thing that stood out was how similar he was to MM - low shot generation, but very high shot suppression. Plus he plays the same kind of heavy game.
- lumlums

You know his story with Burrows, right?
- lumlums

Troll.