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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
You're never going to convince me that trading Chris Tanev is a good idea. Yeah, he's sh!t at producing offense, but his shot suppression stats mean he saves an average of 0.3 goals against per game over the last 3 years. To put that into perspective, the next closest defenseman in the league in that stat is at 0.19 (so not even close).

Plus, he's on an incredibly team-friendly deal for 3 years after this. If you want to free up cap space to invest in more scoring, trade Edler, Gudbranson, or Sbisa, but Tanev is the Canucks best defensive dman but a huge margin.

- nucks_94

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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Why gallant? He's almost a clone of WD just a few years younger. His deployment decisions got him fired already because he wouldn't take his mgmt teams advice.

I know he is in the news because of that taxi picture but I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

- belcherbd


He's not WD so he's an upgrade,
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
You're never going to convince me that trading Chris Tanev is a good idea. Yeah, he's sh!t at producing offense, but his shot suppression stats mean he saves an average of 0.3 goals against per game over the last 3 years. To put that into perspective, the next closest defenseman in the league in that stat is at 0.19 (so not even close).

Plus, he's on an incredibly team-friendly deal for 3 years after this. If you want to free up cap space to invest in more scoring, trade Edler, Gudbranson, or Sbisa, but Tanev is the Canucks best defensive dman but a huge margin.

- nucks_94



Gudbrandson Tryamkin Edler and Tanev will produce nothing offensively. I think this is Sbisa's last year so why bother .

I am glad that Tanev is a huge shot blocker but why is the puck always in his end.
You need players to play in the other end .
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Dragon is an upgrade
- CanuckDon

Touché...
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
He's not WD so he's an upgrade,
- Makita

You're an upgrade on Willie D
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
Better options than Green. I just don't know who yet.
- Retinalz

I like Green...he has demonstrated that he works well with young players and this team is about to get really young. But we won't know who else is available for awhile so hopefully there are some good candidates in the summer.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Dec 12 @ 2:10 PM ET


I can't believe this team gave up on torts so soon....

- belcherbd

i know right?

at least babcock would have gotten his comeuppance in the hallway after martin went after stetcher.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
Gudbrandson Tryamkin Edler and Tanev will produce nothing offensively. I think this is Sbisa's last year so why bother .

I am glad that Tanev is a huge shot blocker but why is the puck always in his end.
You need players to play in the other end .

- VANTEL

Trading Tanev is a good idea because the team should be building towards the future and he's an asset (one of very few) who has value.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
You're an upgrade on Willie D
- LeftCoaster


Apparently I have depression and anger issues, so I'll have to bow out, very sorry and I hope you understand..........and my new sign off
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Apparently I have depression and anger issues, so I'll have to bow out, very sorry and I hope you understand..........and my new sign off
- Makita

I've noticed something different about you....you even had me banned for the first time in several years, you're a bad man!!
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
I don't mean he's going to be as good or better then them, just saying that's his style of play.
- manvanfan


I think that's worth tanking for.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Gudbrandson Tryamkin Edler and Tanev will produce nothing offensively. I think this is Sbisa's last year so why bother .

I am glad that Tanev is a huge shot blocker but why is the puck always in his end.
You need players to play in the other end .

- VANTEL

It's not...hrs actually one of the best the Canucks have in transitioning the puck out of our zone with possession. He does begin the majority of his shifts in his own zone but that's because he's good at what he does.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ral-zone-through-20-games
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
What the frank does this mean?
- CanuckDon


It means tank like a mother(frank)er.
Nuckerwhatever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 11.12.2016

Dec 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
I've noticed something different about you....you even had me banned for the first time in several years, you're a bad man!!
- LeftCoaster


Hi Lefty...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Why gallant? He's almost a clone of WD just a few years younger. His deployment decisions got him fired already because he wouldn't take his mgmt teams advice.

I know he is in the news because of that taxi picture but I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

- belcherbd

Under his own advice, first place in their division. Under management advice losing record.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:15 PM ET
Apparently I have depression and anger issues, so I'll have to bow out, very sorry and I hope you understand..........and my new sign off
- Makita

Welcome my brother, I knew you would see the light.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
I've noticed something different about you....you even had me banned for the first time in several years, you're a bad man!!
- LeftCoaster



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
Trading Tanev is a good idea because the team should be building towards the future and he's an asset (one of very few) who has value.
- LeftCoaster

Tanev is still young and will be in his prime when we are hopefully ready to compete...Edler should definitely be moved if he waives.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
Welcome my brother, I knew you would see the light.
- belcherbd

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 12 @ 2:17 PM ET
It means tank like a mother(frank)er.
- bloatedmosquito

Is 28th place not bad enough for you?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 12 @ 2:17 PM ET
Hi Lefty...
- Nuckerwhatever

It's weird that you love yourself
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 12 @ 2:18 PM ET
I like Green...he has demonstrated that he works well with young players and this team is about to get really young. But we won't know who else is available for awhile so hopefully there are some good candidates in the summer.
- CanuckDon

I mentioned Kevin Dineen for in the summer. He's asst under Quenville in Chicago right now. Has head coaching experience. I think that should be a must if they do decide to change coaches. He is actually the same age as Gerard Gallant (53)
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 12 @ 2:18 PM ET
I like Green...he has demonstrated that he works well with young players and this team is about to get really young. But we won't know who else is available for awhile so hopefully there are some good candidates in the summer.
- CanuckDon


I like Green as well, but he also has very similar traits as WD. Rolls 4 lines, plays grinders he can trust and his PP is atrocious. I like his approach with youth though which is likely the mist important thing right now.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Dec 12 @ 2:19 PM ET
Gudbrandson Tryamkin Edler and Tanev will produce nothing offensively. I think this is Sbisa's last year so why bother .

I am glad that Tanev is a huge shot blocker but why is the puck always in his end.
You need players to play in the other end .

- VANTEL

Yes, he blocks a lot of shots. But he also drives possession. Let's just look at unblocked shot attempt percentages: When Tanev is on the ice, the Canucks generate unblocked shot attempts at a rate of 53%. The next closest dman on the team is Edler at 50.1%, and then Stecher at 49.6%. Tanev also starts 55% of his shifts in the defensive zone (Stecher, for comparison, is the opposite). Therefore, Tanev not only blocks shots, he retrieves pucks and gets the puck out of the zone at a consistently higher rate that all of the other defensemen on the team.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
I think that's worth tanking for.
- bloatedmosquito

May not even need to tank if they keep playing this way.
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