Benning must already be setting up his garage 'fire sale' list in advance this year.

Sven
Gaunce
Skille
Megna
Chapoo
Beiga
Pedan
- Whiskey-Tango

Burrows
Hansen
Edler
Tanev
Sedin
Sedin.

But Shaw DID lunge for the puck.
It's a contact sport, hits to the head are going to happen as are injuries.
Shaw is a notorious POS and Krug is tiny.
Who cares.
- Whiskey-Tango

we should care though. Regardless of who it was on. It is these hits that are notoriously falling "in the grey area" of the rule books. I don't really care who is on the receiving end of those hits, as they aren't something I really enjoy seeing when they happen. The NHL needs to seriously address hits from the blindside or hits to vurnerable players from the side.

Edlers hit on Hertl
Torres hit on Eberle
Kadri on Sedin
now Krug on Shaw.

These hits suck. I for one completely disagree with taking hitting and fighting out of the game, but those lateral hits from the blind side suck.

I am really struggling to find the differences in the hits made this year.

Kadri Hit - 0 games
Oleksiak Hit - 2 games for being tall?
Krug Hit - 0 games
- Codes1087

Don't bother trying to rationalize the suspensions, its a waste of time.

Vancouver Canucks ‏@Canucks 2h2 hours ago
D.Sedin-H.Sedin-Hansen
Eriksson-Sutter-Granlund
Baertschi-Horvat-Burrows
Skille-Chaput-Megna

Hutton-Gudbranson
Sbisa-Stecher
Tryamkin-Biega

we should care though. Regardless of who it was on. It is these hits that are notoriously falling "in the grey area" of the rule books. I don't really care who is on the receiving end of those hits, as they aren't something I really enjoy seeing when they happen. The NHL needs to seriously address hits from the blindside or hits to vurnerable players from the side.

Edlers hit on Hertl
Torres hit on Eberle
Kadri on Sedin
now Krug on Shaw.

These hits suck. I for one completely disagree with taking hitting and fighting out of the game, but those lateral hits from the blind side suck.
- Codes1087

I think the Kadri hit is different than all those other ones in that the player being hit changed their body positioning drastically before being hit by lunging. Also they had the opportunity to see the hitter coming towards them.

Kadri was the only I think you could call a blindside hit.

With Emelin out there chopping out knees you had to know there was some payback coming. Good for Krug.
- LordHumungous

Exactly, the MTL-BOS match-ups have always been like this (anyone remember Chara on Pacthes lol)

This Vancouver fanbase is soft and has very little experience watching heated, emotional and rivalry based hockey.

"But but but that's not true, what about the Alberta teams and Chicago"

The Alberta teams have been garbage for a decade and have never been fighting for anything other then a decent pick and unlike Van players and fans, Chicago never gave a (frank) about this franchise and never saw it as any real threat lol.

we should care though. Regardless of who it was on. It is these hits that are notoriously falling "in the grey area" of the rule books. I don't really care who is on the receiving end of those hits, as they aren't something I really enjoy seeing when they happen. The NHL needs to seriously address hits from the blindside or hits to vurnerable players from the side.

Edlers hit on Hertl
Torres hit on Eberle
Kadri on Sedin
now Krug on Shaw.

These hits suck. I for one completely disagree with taking hitting and fighting out of the game, but those lateral hits from the blind side suck.
- Codes1087

1. That's why these guys get paid millions of dollars.
2. If anyone grew up watching hockey in the 80s-90s, these were the norm (though i do agree with the argument of the game being quicker etc).
3. How can the league realistically police any kind of hit when they are always circumstantial and unique in nature? (yes, there are certain physical areas (i,e the boards etc) that can be regulated but still...)
4. Attempting to do so will ultimately make everyone scared of contact, resulting in a bunch of pussies skating around in circles.
5. For people who don't like it, watch European or Russian based hockey.
6. Better yet, watch soccer.

1. That's why these guys get paid millions of dollars.
2. If anyone grew up watching hockey in the 80s-90s, these were the norm (though i do agree with the argument of the game being quicker etc).
3. How can the league realistically police any kind of hit when they are always circumstantial and unique in nature? (yes, there are certain physical areas (i,e the boards etc) that can be regulated but still...)
4. Attempting to do so will ultimately make everyone scared of contact, resulting in a punch of pussies skating around in circles.
5. For people who don't like it, watch European or Russian based hockey.
6. Better yet, watch soccer.
- Whiskey-Tango

I know this sounds simplistic.... but they always said that this would be the eventual result of removing the central red line and increasing the speed of the game.

1. That's why these guys get paid millions of dollars.
2. If anyone grew up watching hockey in the 80s-90s, these were the norm (though i do agree with the argument of the game being quicker etc).
3. How can the league realistically police any kind of hit when they are always circumstantial and unique in nature? (yes, there are certain physical areas (i,e the boards etc) that can be regulated but still...)
4. Attempting to do so will ultimately make everyone scared of contact, resulting in a punch of pussies skating around in circles.
5. For people who don't like it, watch European or Russian based hockey.
6. Better yet, watch soccer.
- Whiskey-Tango

Come on Man. This is a pretty crappy response to a pretty good topic. I love big hits as much as the next person, and I for one want to keep big hits, fights, rivalries, heated confrontations between players/teams/coaches alive today. I for one, and I don't speak on behalf of everyone obviously, don't really care for those hits (kadri on Sedin, Shaw on Krug). I feel like it is one of the only hits where no one really understands whether or not is will be suspendable and that we never know which way DOPS will lean in their ruling. I don't really think a players salary should be justification on these hits either, Larsen makes substaintally more than I do each year and seeing him lay like that (while the hit was completely clean from Hall) is definitely hard to see.

But they were? or at least up until recently they were trying to find a 20 goal scorer.

The plan failed again and this team is worse than they expected, dressing 6 AHL players isn't a calculated plan, its the result of a poopty plan.
- belcherbd

I believe it's painfully obvious that Aquilini has decided no additional spending on Van or Utica. That's why they are dressing so many AHLer's while not adding roster players via the waiver wire or trade. I am sure Aquilini asked TL what their odds of turning around the season and making the playoffs are. Very slim. The tank has already started guys. It's a race to the bottom

Come on Man. This is a pretty crappy response to a pretty good topic. I love big hits as much as the next person, and I for one want to keep big hits, fights, rivalries, heated confrontations between players/teams/coaches alive today. I for one, and I don't speak on behalf of everyone obviously, don't really care for those hits (kadri on Sedin, Shaw on Krug). I feel like it is one of the only hits where no one really understands whether or not is will be suspendable and that we never know which way DOPS will lean in their ruling. I don't really think a players salary should be justification on these hits either, Larsen makes substaintally more than I do each year and seeing him lay like that (while the hit was completely clean from Hall) is definitely hard to see.
- Codes1087

Again.... red line missing.... too much up and down speed.... easy to find traps (think of those areas behind and beside the net or high in the slot)

What does he have this year?
- manvanfan

Sophomore slump ...it happens ..,all the time

Burrows
Hansen
Edler
Tanev
Sedin
Sedin.


- LordHumungous

Again.... red line missing.... too much up and down speed.... easy to find traps (think of those areas behind and beside the net or high in the slot)
- Beatle_john

Players are getting so much bigger and faster every year its crazy

Seriously... the areas behind and beside the net and the area high in the slot (plus I suppose high on the side boards) are all areas when it is common to see the offensive player come to a stop or try a quick turn of speed. The Defensive player does not have to stop at anytime so even the most moderate skater with the ability to keep his speed up through the neutral zone has a HUGE advantage if they are head hunting or blindsiding.

Seriously... the areas behind and beside the net and the area high in the slot (plus I suppose high on the side boards) are all areas when it is common to see the offensive player come to a stop or try a quick turn of speed. The Defensive player does not have to stop at anytime so even the most moderate skater with the ability to keep his speed up through the neutral zone has a HUGE advantage if they are head hunting or blindsiding.
- Beatle_john

Can't go back to two-line passes though, there would be even less goals in an already lock-down league.

Players are getting so much bigger and faster every year its crazy
- Codes1087

While true, I would think that it would all be relative. If everyone is getting bigger, they should be able to absorb larger hits as well as throw them.

While true, I would think that it would all be relative. If everyone is getting bigger, they should be able to absorb larger hits as well as throw them.
- Beatle_john

Not really how Physics works. Our bodies are made up of the same stuff, more weight at higher velocity means more injury/risk.

Can't go back to two-line passes though, there would be even less goals in an already lock-down league.
- neem55

You are right, going back is not the answer... but then they must go one of two ways... open up the ice surface by going 4 on 4 (which the NHLPA will not go for) or increasing the size of the rink to European standards (Which ownership will never cover the expense) so now all they have is to double the penalty for a blind side hit --- which again, will be hard to implement and probably unpopular as it removes one of the last violent vestiges of the game.

Not really how Physics works. Our bodies are made up of the same stuff, more weight at higher velocity means more injury/risk.
- neem55

Totally disagree. A 6 foot 5, 240 pounder can absorb an impact way better than a 5 foot 6 180 pounder. Now make all things relative... the hitter and the hittee the same sizes and I doubt there is much difference.

You are right, going back is not the answer... but then they must go one of two ways... open up the ice surface by going 4 on 4 (which the NHLPA will not go for) or increasing the size of the rink to European standards (Which ownership will never cover the expense) so now all they have is to double the penalty for a blind side hit --- which again, will be hard to implement and probably unpopular as it removes one of the last violent vestiges of the game.
- Beatle_john

Its the same reason the GM's couldn't gain any traction in the GM meetings regarding Kadri's hit on Sedin. It is just something that will have to be decided by DOPS on a ongoing basis.

You are right, going back is not the answer... but then they must go one of two ways... open up the ice surface by going 4 on 4 (which the NHLPA will not go for) or increasing the size of the rink to European standards (Which ownership will never cover the expense) so now all they have is to double the penalty for a blind side hit --- which again, will be hard to implement and probably unpopular as it removes one of the last violent vestiges of the game.
- Beatle_john

All vaild points. I really think the answer is to increase the rink size. Would open up the game, get more scoring also more room so less incidents like blindsides happening. But you're right, getting the owners to foot the bill would be tough.

Come on Man. This is a pretty crappy response to a pretty good topic. I love big hits as much as the next person, and I for one want to keep big hits, fights, rivalries, heated confrontations between players/teams/coaches alive today. I for one, and I don't speak on behalf of everyone obviously, don't really care for those hits (kadri on Sedin, Shaw on Krug). I feel like it is one of the only hits where no one really understands whether or not is will be suspendable and that we never know which way DOPS will lean in their ruling. I don't really think a players salary should be justification on these hits either, Larsen makes substaintally more than I do each year and seeing him lay like that (while the hit was completely clean from Hall) is definitely hard to see.
- Codes1087

But that's it right there.
People can endlessly talk about what could hypothetically be done about it but there's very little in the way of practical action that can be implemented to achieve anything other than drastically changing the very game we all know and love.

Why did nothing happen after the Kadri hit?
Because, Newsflash: nobody gave a (frank), not the league, not the players union,not the DOPS and not the 29 other franchises or their respective fan-bases.

You fall off the horse, you get back on or at the very least, get a very large insurance benefit.

I believe it's painfully obvious that Aquilini has decided no additional spending on Van or Utica. That's why they are dressing so many AHLer's while not adding roster players via the waiver wire or trade. I am sure Aquilini asked TL what their odds of turning around the season and making the playoffs are. Very slim. The tank has already started guys. It's a race to the bottom
- CanuckDon

That is wrong. Canucks only have about 500K in cap space and if they were trying to cut costs Miller Burrows would not be on the team and they would not be spending on sending Rodin down or have Jake in Utica

Totally disagree. A 6 foot 5, 240 pounder can absorb an impact way better than a 5 foot 6 180 pounder. Now make all things relative... the hitter and the hittee the same sizes and I doubt there is much difference.
- Beatle_john

For sure it makes a difference if the players are the same size, but injuries usually occur at stress points that can only take so much pressure/impact (knees for example) which has much more to do with speed and weight of impact on the stress point than anything else.