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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
I believe it's painfully obvious that Aquilini has decided no additional spending on Van or Utica. That's why they are dressing so many AHLer's while not adding roster players via the waiver wire or trade. I am sure Aquilini asked TL what their odds of turning around the season and making the playoffs are. Very slim. The tank has already started guys. It's a race to the bottom
- CanuckDon




If only this was advertised in October, could have saved a lot of tears (mine included lol).
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
All vaild points. I really think the answer is to increase the rink size. Would open up the game, get more scoring also more room so less incidents like blindsides happening. But you're right, getting the owners to foot the bill would be tough.
- neem55


Just IMHO --- I would love to see European Sized Rinks. But the NHL never-ever has had that in mind. Remembered the old days (like not even 20 years ago) when there was not even a moment of thought to standarding the size of the rinks. I rememeber the old Boston rink being the size of a 8-rinks hidden 9th practice rink.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
But that's it right there.
People can endlessly talk about what could hypothetically be done about it but there's very little in the way of practical action that can be implemented to achieve anything other than drastically changing the very game we all know and love.

Why did nothing happen after the Kadri hit?
Because, Newsflash: nobody gave a (frank), not the league, not the players union,not the DOPS and not the 29 other franchises or their respective fan-bases.


You fall off the horse, you get back on or at the very least, get a very large insurance benefit.

- Whiskey-Tango


I disagree, I bet you the only person who genuinely does not care is Bettman as this is EXACTLY the attention the league wants. A player who was hit HARD, got back up, and wasn't seriously hurt, it made headlines on every sports network for weeks.

I can bet you that the players care, I can damn well bet that management cares, and I genuinely think that DOPS has no idea how to properly assess these hits (reason for such inconsistency with the rulings).

That hit was one of the main focal points in the GM meetings in Nov/Dec. Either way, its not like this hit is going to be taken out of the game or added in the rulebook anytime soon. You bring up some good points though.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
That is wrong. Canucks only have about 500K in cap space and if they were trying to cut costs Miller Burrows would not be on the team and they would not be spending on sending Rodin down or have Jake in Utica
- VANTEL


which is the baffling thing, really as Burrows and Miller have both been mediocre at best for the past season and quarter (or whatever were at now). Seems FA and/or management has spent to the cap thinking this is a legitimately competitive team. I find that the scariest idea of all.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
I disagree, I bet you the only person who genuinely does not care is Bettman as this is EXACTLY the attention the league wants. A player who was hit HARD, got back up, and wasn't seriously hurt, it made headlines on every sports network for weeks.

I can bet you that the players care, I can damn well bet that management cares, and I genuinely think that DOPS has no idea how to properly assess these hits (reason for such inconsistency with the rulings).

That hit was one of the main focal points in the GM meetings in Nov/Dec. Either way, its not like this hit is going to be taken out of the game or added in the rulebook anytime soon. You bring up some good points though.

- Codes1087


I think the Kadri hit had more to do with respect and "the rule book" than anything else. A young player showing no contrition for hitting a legendary player....
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
I disagree, I bet you the only person who genuinely does not care is Bettman as this is EXACTLY the attention the league wants. A player who was hit HARD, got back up, and wasn't seriously hurt, it made headlines on every sports network for weeks.

I can bet you that the players care, I can damn well bet that management cares, and I genuinely think that DOPS has no idea how to properly assess these hits (reason for such inconsistency with the rulings).

That hit was one of the main focal points in the GM meetings in Nov/Dec. Either way, its not like this hit is going to be taken out of the game or added in the rulebook anytime soon. You bring up some good points though.

- Codes1087



Very true!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
which is the baffling thing, really as Burrows and Miller have both been mediocre at best for the past season and quarter (or whatever were at now). Seems FA and/or management has spent to the cap thinking this is a legitimately competitive team. I find that the scariest idea of all.
- neem55



I hope he does put a cap freeze on and sells off some assets
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
I believe it's painfully obvious that Aquilini has decided no additional spending on Van or Utica. That's why they are dressing so many AHLer's while not adding roster players via the waiver wire or trade. I am sure Aquilini asked TL what their odds of turning around the season and making the playoffs are. Very slim. The tank has already started guys. It's a race to the bottom
- CanuckDon


Sure I think that is a plausible theory.

I still won't be surprised to see a deal or two made to add some more talent.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
which is the baffling thing, really as Burrows and Miller have both been mediocre at best for the past season and quarter (or whatever were at now). Seems FA and/or management has spent to the cap thinking this is a legitimately competitive team. I find that the scariest idea of all.
- neem55



Nooooo..... other than Miller getting some injuries, both players are well above what they have played in the previous two years.


Miller will go to the highest paying California team. Burrows will go to Chicago or Montreal.

Then Virtanen and Rodin will be brought up.

Burrows may even come back the following year for minimum wage.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
That is wrong. Canucks only have about 500K in cap space and if they were trying to cut costs Miller Burrows would not be on the team and they would not be spending on sending Rodin down or have Jake in Utica
- VANTEL

Then why aren't they adding depth in Utica? Also, your cap space figure is def. off. They also haven't utilized LTIR
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 13 @ 2:12 PM ET


If only this was advertised in October, could have saved a lot of tears (mine included lol).

- Whiskey-Tango

I don't think they realized how bad they were until the 9 game streak. Even I realize they are exceptionally bad now
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
With Emelin out there chopping out knees you had to know there was some payback coming. Good for Krug.
- LordHumungous


Emelin is the dirtiest player in the league. Bar none. He makes Burrows look like an angel.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Burrows
Hansen
Edler
Tanev
Sedin
Sedin.


- LordHumungous

Miller?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Then why aren't they adding depth in Utica? Also, your cap space figure is def. off. They also haven't utilized LTIR
- CanuckDon



All i can go by is Cap Friendly
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
I don't think they realized how bad they were until the 9 game streak. Even I realize they are exceptionally bad now
- CanuckDon



Ditto
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Emelin is the dirtiest player in the league. Bar none. He makes Burrows look like an angel.
- Max.Betts



While you are correct on Emelin.... why compare him to Burrows?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
I believe it's painfully obvious that Aquilini has decided no additional spending on Van or Utica. That's why they are dressing so many AHLer's while not adding roster players via the waiver wire or trade. I am sure Aquilini asked TL what their odds of turning around the season and making the playoffs are. Very slim. The tank has already started guys. It's a race to the bottom
- CanuckDon


If true, you have made my day.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
not willing to give up draft picks or other prospects to get players that are worse.
- manvanfan


If you think Baertschi is better than Duclair you're straight up retarded.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
If you think Baertschi is better than Duclair you're straight up retarded.
- Max.Betts


Max, I am not used to your style of posting but you are sounding pissy.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
While you are correct on Emelin.... why compare him to Burrows?
- Beatle_john


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 13 @ 2:19 PM ET
Totally disagree. A 6 foot 5, 240 pounder can absorb an impact way better than a 5 foot 6 180 pounder. Now make all things relative... the hitter and the hittee the same sizes and I doubt there is much difference.
- Beatle_john

Rome was 6'1' 218 vs Horton 6'2" 229 how did that work out?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:21 PM ET
Rome was 6'1' 218 vs Horton 6'2" 229 how did that work out?
- A_SteamingLombardi



Within an inch, within 10 pounds.... no way to tell when you add momentum and force unless you are on The Big Bang Theory.

Plus Horton was 9/10th a vegetable due to previous concussions when he met Rome.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 13 @ 2:24 PM ET
Within an inch, within 10 pounds.... no way to tell when you add momentum and force unless you are on The Big Bang Theory.

Plus Horton was 9/10th a vegetable due to previous concussions when he met Rome.

- Beatle_john

Horton has no idea who he met.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
Max, I am not used to your style of posting but you are sounding pissy.
- Beatle_john


I have no respect for people who overvalue canucks players, wear rose coloured glasses or insist that there is a quick fix to this gongshow (but due to incompetence, management refuses to take it, use it, seize it).

If you consider yourself a hockey fan but only watch canucks games you're lying to yourself.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:27 PM ET
Then why aren't they adding depth in Utica? Also, your cap space figure is def. off. They also haven't utilized LTIR
- CanuckDon


I'm not sure what you mean by adding depth to Utica?

Other than Etem any player they claim would have to stay with the Canucks or be go through waivers again.

Megna and Chaput haven't been world beaters but are they much worse than some of the other guys who we have passed on?
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