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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:27 PM ET
I have no respect for people who overvalue canucks players, wear rose coloured glasses or insist that there is a quick fix to this gongshow (but due to incompetence, management refuses to take it, use it, seize it).

If you consider yourself a hockey fan but only watch canucks games you're lying to yourself.

- Max.Betts


I can't agree with you more. I guess I am pissy too.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
Horton has no idea who he met.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Even today, I think you could tell him it was Jim Rome from the radio and he would be like "Oh, I like that guy...."
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
I'm not sure what you mean by adding depth to Utica?

Other than Etem any player they claim would have to stay with the Canucks or be go through waivers again.

Megna and Chaput haven't been world beaters but are they much worse than some of the other guys who we have passed on?

- belcherbd


I'd take pulkkinen and boucher over megna and shatpoo.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:30 PM ET
I'd take pulkkinen and boucher over megna and shatpoo.
- Max.Betts


I don;t know....

Anytime a team has a chance to take a Shatpoo... I think you do it. Can you imagine how legendary it wil be when Shorty has to say "Chaput just laid a soft dump in the corner."
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:32 PM ET
I don;t know....

Anytime a team has a chance to take a Shatpoo... I think you do it. Can you imagine how legendary it wil be when Shorty has to say "Chaput just laid a soft dump in the corner."

- Beatle_john


ok you win
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:34 PM ET
Then why aren't they adding depth in Utica? Also, your cap space figure is def. off. They also haven't utilized LTIR
- CanuckDon

Quite simply because most of the Utica age talent...is on the canucks roster. Hutton tree stretcher Horvat on a champion calibre team...most these guys are in the Ahl
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:35 PM ET
I'm not sure what you mean by adding depth to Utica?

Other than Etem any player they claim would have to stay with the Canucks or be go through waivers again.

Megna and Chaput haven't been world beaters but are they much worse than some of the other guys who we have passed on?

- belcherbd



They have added players recently but I could not tell you a thing about them
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
I'd take pulkkinen and boucher over megna and shatpoo.
- Max.Betts


I don't know about Boucher but Pulkkinen is a terrible skater and I'm not surprised no one picked him up on his second time down.

Again they might be marginally better but I don't think it is the difference between winning a few more games.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Why take on another contract when the upgrade is not worth it? Puukinen was regarded as an AHL talent by Friedman Ferraro and others.

Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
I have to admit, I have been in and out of town and when I came back on of these times, suddenly we had Chapot and Menga and no idea where or why. Who the heck are these guys? Draft picks? Actual sources of Canuck development?
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
I don't know about Boucher but Pulkkinen is a terrible skater and I'm not surprised no one picked him up on his second time down.

Again they might be marginally better but I don't think it is the difference between winning a few more games.

- belcherbd


Who gives a flying fck if pulkkinen can't skate? Put him on the PP in the Ovi spot and have hank feed him one-timers for 4 minutes a night. this team needs goals and that's what pulkkinen does. Sure, he becomes a PP specialist, but look at Dorsett, he's a specialist too. And I'm willing to bet Pulkkinen can keep up with him in a race.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
I have to admit, I have been in and out of town and when I came back on of these times, suddenly we had Chapot and Menga and no idea where or why. Who the heck are these guys? Draft picks? Actual sources of Canuck development?
- Beatle_john


they were free agents this summer. megna was in NYR org and Chaput was CBJ i believe. google it if you really care
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
I have to admit, I have been in and out of town and when I came back on of these times, suddenly we had Chapot and Menga and no idea where or why. Who the heck are these guys? Draft picks? Actual sources of Canuck development?
- Beatle_john


What the hell is that?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
They have added players recently but I could not tell you a thing about them
- VANTEL


Utica?

They added Robak who has been awesome for them and has really stabilized their back end.

Nilsson Sp? also has played a dozen games or so for them after being on IR to start the year, from what I have seen/read he has been so so.

They also brought back Pellatier who was in Europe and has helped their offense.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
I don't know about Boucher but Pulkkinen is a terrible skater and I'm not surprised no one picked him up on his second time down.

Again they might be marginally better but I don't think it is the difference between winning a few more games.

- belcherbd


there is a limit to contracts they can have, and right now they have the flexibility to take on some in a deal, why use up valuable space for marginal increase? I am hoping they are trying to remain at 45 contracts so they can take on some at the TDL and be big players when college UFA season hits
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
I have to admit, I have been in and out of town and when I came back on of these times, suddenly we had Chapot and Menga and no idea where or why. Who the heck are these guys? Draft picks? Actual sources of Canuck development?
- Beatle_john


They were signed this off season to be AHL vets and injury call ups.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
Nooooo..... other than Miller getting some injuries, both players are well above what they have played in the previous two years.


Miller will go to the highest paying California team. Burrows will go to Chicago or Montreal.

Then Virtanen and Rodin will be brought up.

Burrows may even come back the following year for minimum wage.

- Beatle_john


i'll give you that Miller has been pretty good when healthy, I think I just genuinely don't like him.

Burrows on the other hand I like but is a steaming pile of garbage whose 32 points in the last 100 games at 4.5 million makes him the one of the most overpriced bottom 6 forward in the league. He might be worth a veteran's minimum contract, I hope some team take him off our hands so we can recoup from that awful contract.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
Who gives a flying fck if pulkkinen can't skate? Put him on the PP in the Ovi spot and have hank feed him one-timers for 4 minutes a night. this team needs goals and that's what pulkkinen does. Sure, he becomes a PP specialist, but look at Dorsett, he's a specialist too. And I'm willing to bet Pulkkinen can keep up with him in a race.
- Max.Betts


You would be wrong if you think he can keep up with Dorsett.

There is a reason that every team passed on him and most passed on him twice. He straight up cannot skate.

WD won't even put our leading scorer with the Sedins on the PP, you think they would put Pulkkinen there?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
Chaput Megna may not be NHL players but they are not the reason we are losing. One shot on five PPs has more to do why we are losing.

The D are not getting blown out , but we are losing. We have been shut out 5 times in 29 games and the number of one and two goal games would be mind blowing.

15 of our 29 games have been two goals or less
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
You would be wrong if you think he can keep up with Dorsett.

There is a reason that every team passed on him and most passed on him twice. He straight up cannot skate.

WD won't even put our leading scorer with the Sedins on the PP, you think they would put Pulkkinen there?

- belcherbd




So true, besides, who's going to mentor Horvat?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 2:49 PM ET
What the hell is that?
- Whiskey-Tango


it's this thing that other teams do with their players, where they learn how to play for a while before they get to play in the NHL. We do it with goalies, but not any other position is my understanding of it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 13 @ 2:51 PM ET
there is a limit to contracts they can have, and right now they have the flexibility to take on some in a deal, why use up valuable space for marginal increase? I am hoping they are trying to remain at 45 contracts so they can take on some at the TDL and be big players when college UFA season hits
- WhiteLie

CHL players too but other then Tyler Johnson I can't really think of who is a stand out CHL undrafted player.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:51 PM ET
11. This team would win the cup if they would just fire the coach...

Fck man, could you be any more generic? You claim to see things that other people don't and it makes me wonder if the same is true for the voices in your head.

- Max.Betts

learn to read max...Theres like 30% here that sees it to.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:52 PM ET
Utica?

They added Robak who has been awesome for them and has really stabilized their back end.

Nilsson Sp? also has played a dozen games or so for them after being on IR to start the year, from what I have seen/read he has been so so.

They also brought back Pellatier who was in Europe and has helped their offense.

- belcherbd


They added a guy named Kunky?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
He was crying about WD when he got this team to a 103 pt season and had no right being in the PO's
- LordHumungous

so its his doing when they do good but last season wasnt his fault? Thats selective.
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