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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:07 PM ET
no you didnt.

Ralph Kruger appreciates the vote of confidence though.

- Max.Betts

go back and see then....I did. You cant just deny it cause You realize you screwed it.

You know what, if you hate what I say so much then just dont read it. Really easy
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:08 PM ET
1. how the hell do you know who would win a foot race between dorsett and pulkkinen?

2. IF pulkkinen were on the roster (he's not because JB likes his 2-way forwards - and that's fine), but you're probably right WD is unlikely to play him with the sedins. All I'm saying is he is someone I'd rather have on the team than megna or shatpoo

- Max.Betts


I agree with the general idea, but Pulkanen is a bust. If Ken Holland gives up on a guy that dominates in the AHL that should be a huge red flag.

Also, you've gone out of your way to say this team is a mess and then suggest going to the waiver wire?! This team has multiple years of below 500 hockey ahead of it, not quite sure why you think bandaid AHLers will help
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:08 PM ET
I see Archies name on the score sheet a lot lately. JV has helped his game. Valk also . One of the productive lines
- VANTEL


Chicken or the egg?

Archie and Valk were hot before Virtanen went down but the 3 of them have been playing well for sure.

Zalewski been the biggest mystery to me, he was their most important forward last year and he has completely fallen apart.

Rendaluc and Roy have been good as well but can't seem to score.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
This is what retooling does to a comment board.
- Max.Betts

We've had lots of reasons to have heated discussions over the years. They never quite got to this level of ignorance and stupidity.

I find myself coming in here less and less these days.





WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
I think the CHL players are picked over a lot more then other leagues. Less chance of guys slipping through.
My google search came up with Mark Giordano, Josh Gorges, Dan Girardi. A few much older guys. Tyler Johnson is the only forward.
Has diminished my hope for Michael Carcone, Asthon Saunter, Curtis Valk. Yan Pavel was technically drafted.

- manvanfan


I agree, but also the guys that go the college route, particularly from Jr. A, are the late bloomers who need a little extra maturing physically. I think that time, competing against older competition, and the style of hockey the NCAA does benefits the development of those players moreso than overage CHLers
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
Yes, and I am saying you claim to have posted, but in my daily visits I have not seen them. Take your own advice and learn to read
- WhiteLie

earlier in the year and also last year.

not my fault you skim, didnt read, cant read, poor memory or whatever your issue is
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
No I dont expect a Stecher-type but a Tanev wouldnt be so bad to gain
- WhiteLie

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=113322
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=135706
Hard to find because the season is only 1/3 of the way through but sounds like these two smallish forwards are going to be some of the better college free agents this year. More in the mold of drake cagguila then Jimmy Vesey.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
Chicken or the egg?

Archie and Valk were hot before Virtanen went down but the 3 of them have been playing well for sure.

Zalewski been the biggest mystery to me, he was their most important forward last year and he has completely fallen apart.

Rendaluc and Roy have been good as well but can't seem to score.

- belcherbd


No matter which it is, it's very good for JV. If he stays hot for a large stretch maybe consider the call up. I'm very impressed JV has responded and clearly doesn't want to be in the AHL. Hopefully he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and starts banging like he did the second half of last year.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
We've had lots of reasons to have heated discussions over the years. They never quite got to this level of ignorance and stupidity.

I find myself coming in here less and less these days.

- vancity787


I agree, its gotten more belligerent. Not sure why, probably Makita's fault
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
No matter which it is, it's very good for JV. If he stays hot for a large stretch maybe consider the call up. I'm very impressed JV has responded and clearly doesn't want to be in the AHL. Hopefully he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and starts banging like he did the second half of last year.
- neem55



I honestly don't get it. Keep him down there for most of the year. Let him learn how to be a pro on and off the ice. Let him get a year of confidence.

Let him start off fresh next year with Boeser and Bo as third liners
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
I agree, its gotten more belligerent. Not sure why, probably Makita's fault
- belcherbd



Very bad man , very bad
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
No matter which it is, it's very good for JV. If he stays hot for a large stretch maybe consider the call up. I'm very impressed JV has responded and clearly doesn't want to be in the AHL. Hopefully he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and starts banging like he did the second half of last year.
- neem55


I agree, I also noticed Green isn't using him a tonne, which I wonder is by design.

Most kids come from Junior and are used to playing 18 min a night and when they go to 10 it can be really hard to get in the game. Hopefully Green can help Jake get to the point where he can play some really effective hard minutes even if it isn't in the top 6.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
We've had lots of reasons to have heated discussions over the years. They never quite got to this level of ignorance and stupidity.

I find myself coming in here less and less these days.

- vancity787


True dat.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
I agree, its gotten more belligerent. Not sure why, probably Makita's fault
- belcherbd

When in doubt. Blame Makita.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 13 @ 3:16 PM ET
True dat.
- VanHockeyGuy

stfu
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:16 PM ET
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=113322
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=135706
Hard to find because the season is only 1/3 of the way through but sounds like these two smallish forwards are going to be some of the better college free agents this year. More in the mold of drake cagguila then Jimmy Vesey.

- manvanfan


Thanks, I was looking the other day for some College UFA hype and was having trouble finding much.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 3:16 PM ET
I agree, its gotten more belligerent. Not sure why, probably Makita's fault
- belcherbd


Obviously.

That deadbeat has done nothing but up the ante with regards to aggression, arrogance and all-around pissy behavior
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
earlier in the year and also last year.

not my fault you skim, didnt read, cant read, poor memory or whatever your issue is

- SMBDragon



In the past year you have definitely not provided anything more than your philosophical approach to coaching; saying some generals are born tacticians and it cannot be taught, that its the wielder of the sword and not the sword itself, and your favorite reference to support your firing is the video of Hockey Night in Canada questioning WD's deployment.

You also are convinced that the improved defense this year is entirely due to Jarvis (who you want as HC though he has never had the experience and been passed over several times), you also want Kreuger to come coach (though he would never give up his position in the EPL - which you were unaware he was busy with), and you think Boudreau is not a good playoff coach (even though he never remains on the market for more than a few days because of how good a coach he is).

How's my memory there champ? Did I miss anything? Or "can you not see it"? Some people learn to read, but they arent born with the skills to comprehend
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
When in doubt. Blame Makita.
- vancity787



I know you were AWOL for a while so it might go over your head but he's a good poster
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 13 @ 3:18 PM ET
Hey guys,

New game-day blog is up. Miller and Baertschi are back...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...e-out-road-trip/194/81344
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 13 @ 3:19 PM ET
I agree, but also the guys that go the college route, particularly from Jr. A, are the late bloomers who need a little extra maturing physically. I think that time, competing against older competition, and the style of hockey the NCAA does benefits the development of those players moreso than overage CHLers
- WhiteLie

They also get an extra 2 years to mature in College. 20 year olds just dominate too much in junior. Probably why you are seeing many more players going the College route these days. College game is much better quality then it used to be because of it.
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 3:20 PM ET
I agree with the general idea, but Pulkanen is a bust. If Ken Holland gives up on a guy that dominates in the AHL that should be a huge red flag.

Also, you've gone out of your way to say this team is a mess and then suggest going to the waiver wire?! This team has multiple years of below 500 hockey ahead of it, not quite sure why you think bandaid AHLers will help

- neem55


Again, I dont think he's the answer. There isnt a single human on the earth that will singlehandedly fix this mess. I would simply rather have him on the team over megan and shatpoo.

im not convinced holland "gave up" on him. the timing was such that most teams had their rosters set at the beginning of the season. the red wings signed vanek and neilson and didnt have a spot for him. they tried to send him grand rapids and he was claimed. minnesota decided to pick him up and them decided that zac dalpe was a better fit for their roster. he is still a prospect and im sure he'll get another shot someday. i wouldn't mind the canucks taking a chance, much like they have with ______ (insert scrub NHLer here).
Max.Betts
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 09.30.2015

Dec 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
Hey guys,

New game-day blog is up. Miller and Baertschi are back...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...e-out-road-trip/194/81344

- Carol Schram


(not for the blog, for BAer)
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
They also get an extra 2 years to mature in College. 20 year olds just dominate too much in junior. Probably why you are seeing many more players going the College route these days. College game is much better quality then it used to be because of it.
- manvanfan


Agreed, I really enjoy the college game, its built of speed and skill. The CHL is heading that way, but they still have the thugs on their rosters
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 13 @ 3:23 PM ET
No matter which it is, it's very good for JV. If he stays hot for a large stretch maybe consider the call up. I'm very impressed JV has responded and clearly doesn't want to be in the AHL. Hopefully he comes back with a chip on his shoulder and starts banging like he did the second half of last year.
- neem55


Agreed, but i think his biggest issue is and has been conditioning.

Kid camp into camp out of shape and has struggled to maintain the ability to go hard for 45 second shifts, both in the NHL and still currently, in the AHL where Green appears to only be throwing him out there for 25 second runs.

It's nice that he's scoring some goals (keeping in mind that 2 have been a tip, 1 has been a 4 man scuffle in the paint, with only one being a true snipe) but until the kid is capable of playing hard consistently over the course of a single 'big boy' shift, he has absolutely no place on this line-up or league.
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