The biggest takeaway from their fancy stats is their PDO's.

Sbisa is at over 101 and EG is at 94, essentially suggesting that Sbisa is getting a bit of good luck and EG is pretty unlucky at this point.

We should expect Sbisa's possession and traditional stats to decrease and EG's to increase over the year or at the very least next season.
- belcherbd

PDO doesn't affect possession though. It's a measure of shooting percentage and save percentage. Neither of those things affect the number of shot attempts that occur in a game.

I think he did lead by example.
- CubanBuffet

Sbisa is a POS player. Just (frank)ing awful
- Beatle_john

Van could probably bring back Bartowski or Yannick Weber back if you'd like.

Honestly guys,

This is BJ we are talking about, what are the chances he is trolling you?

It's like taking Scooby serious about Nickelback

PDO doesn't affect possession though. It's a measure of shooting percentage and save percentage. Neither of those things affect the number of shot attempts that occur in a game.
- nucks_94

You are correct.

Honestly guys,

This is BJ we are talking about, what are the chances he is trolling you?

It's like taking Scooby serious about Nickelback


- belcherbd

Yeah... I shouldn't have engaged

You are wonderful at completely ignoring context. Good for you
The point was not who's a top 4 Dman (as frankly neither are), the point was who's worse.

E.G has played three times the amount of games as Hutton and has yet to cement himself as anything other than a depth (bottom 6) defenseman.

Let's see where Hutton's at after playing 300 plus games lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

Safe to say, both players could do with trying a different d-pairing. E.G. Has done better in top4 than Hutton ever has regardless of who he's paired with. E.g. And edler might be a good pair to try and Tanev/sbisa or Hutton. I really think Hutton would benefit from bottom pair assignments

PDO doesn't affect possession though. It's a measure of shooting percentage and save percentage. Neither of those things affect the number of shot attempts that occur in a game.
- nucks_94

Sbisa for the better part of the year has played against worse competition. Probably had the better amount of Offensive zone starts.

While I agree he hasn't been as physical as I wish I believe his presence keeps other teams in line for the most part. When Martin went after a rookie he took care of it and was vocal off the ice as well. Who else on our team can play meaningful minutes and play that role? No one.
Edit. He also has a lot of respect in the room and around the league. Florida was considering him their future captain for awhile. Also, Martin's comments after the fight demonstrated respect.
- CanuckDon

He does seem to be respected around the league, particularly with former teammates, but I'm not sure how much that's translating on the ice. That's the thing about intangibles, they are intangible. It certainly didn't keep Martin from going after Stretcher in the first place.

Safe to say, both players could do with trying a different d-pairing. E.G. Has done better in top4 than Hutton ever has regardless of who he's paired with. E.g. And edler might be a good pair to try and Tanev/sbisa or Hutton. I really think Hutton would benefit from bottom pair assignments
- neem55

Agreed.
That pair is dysfunctional.

Sbisa for the better part of the year has played against worse competition. Probably had the better amount of Offensive zone starts.
- manvanfan

Again... I'm not saying Sbisa is a better player. I'm saying that they are similarly bad at what they do and neither, in an ideal world, should be getting the minutes that they do on this team.

Agreed.
That pair is dysfunctional.
- Whiskey-Tango

Hutton-EG was a doomed pairing from the get go. The theory is that because EG is a good stay at home dman, he should free up Hutton to be more creative offensively. Unfortunately, EG isn't so good in his own zone and the mistakes that Hutton makes get amplified. This kills his confidence to move the puck.

I'd love to see a Hutton-Tanev pairing when Tanev comes back.

Hutton-EG was a doomed pairing from the get go. The theory is that because EG is a good stay at home dman, he should free up Hutton to be more creative offensively. Unfortunately, EG isn't so good in his own zone and the mistakes that Hutton makes get amplified. This kills his confidence to move the puck.

I'd love to see a Hutton-Tanev pairing when Tanev comes back.
- nucks_94

EG with Edler?

Hutton-EG was a doomed pairing from the get go. The theory is that because EG is a good stay at home dman, he should free up Hutton to be more creative offensively. Unfortunately, EG isn't so good in his own zone and the mistakes that Hutton makes get amplified. This kills his confidence to move the puck.

I'd love to see a Hutton-Tanev pairing when Tanev comes back.
- nucks_94

Yes !!! They were really solid last year.

Gudbranson Edler could work well I think as well.

EG with Edler?
- golfingsince

Hutton-Tanev
Edler-Stecher
Tryamkin-EG

Tanev is 2 years older than EG, and has played less NHL games. Tanev has been solid since he's been in our lineup.
- golfingsince

Yeah, at defending. What does he think he is, a defenceman or something?

Hutton-Tanev
Edler-Stecher
Tryamkin-EG
- nucks_94

That bottom pairing looks pretty slow.

Yeah, at defending. What does he think he is, a defenceman or something?
- CubanBuffet

Trade him!

That bottom pairing looks pretty slow.
- golfingsince

Who cares all that much if they are playing 10-15 minutes a night against bottom six forwards with more ozone starts?

Safe to say, both players could do with trying a different d-pairing. E.G. Has done better in top4 than Hutton ever has regardless of who he's paired with. E.g. And edler might be a good pair to try and Tanev/sbisa or Hutton. I really think Hutton would benefit from bottom pair assignments
- neem55

100%

Again... I'm not saying Sbisa is a better player. I'm saying that they are similarly bad at what they do and neither, in an ideal world, should be getting the minutes that they do on this team.
- nucks_94

I think Sbisa is overpaid. Sbisa playing with Tryamkin was actually a decent 3rd line pairing I thought. The fact that WD refuses to split up Hutton and Gudbranson even after 30 games of it clearly not working is what frustrates me. I don't know how to fix this team but beating the same dead horse in hopes that it wakes after this long.

Again... I'm not saying Sbisa is a better player. I'm saying that they are similarly bad at what they do and neither, in an ideal world, should be getting the minutes that they do on this team.
- nucks_94

Of course not. Our top 2 D are injured.

Trade him!
- golfingsince

And Edler too. The defence looks fine without them.

And Edler too. The defence looks fine without them.
- CubanBuffet

They aren't tough enough.

They aren't tough enough.
- golfingsince

Plus they got injured. Way to help the team guys.