It's just the either they're great or they're sh¡te that really grinds my gears.
- Wetbandit1

there's guys like you and then, there's guys in white capris and flip flops talking hockey here.
Guys like you tend to understand the reality of building a team.
The other ones seem to know where to find deals on fashion items.
….And this isn't "fashion item buzz"

Just because they're not awesome doesn't mean they're crap. Just like the Bills are they a crap team? No, they're an average one. They(mostly) dominate the poopty teams and (mostly)struggle against the good teams.
- Wetbandit1

I like Bogo but Ennis and Kulikov are crap.

It's just the either they're great or they're sh¡te that really grinds my gears.
- Wetbandit1

When they don't play well, and we pretend they do, that's what grind my gears.

Do we get a redo? I really thought you were joking, but it was really bad, so I had to google it.
- Wetbandit1

Yeah But you have to vacuum again

there's guys like you and then, there's guys in white capris and flip flops talking hockey here.
Guys like you tend to understand the reality of building a team.
The other ones seem to know where to find deals on fashion items.
….And this isn't "fashion item buzz"
- seedy

Doesn't anyone say Merry Christmas anymore ? that's what it is not happy holidays. .
- SABRES 89

The way I always thought of happy holidays was Christmas and New Years. But not everyone celebrates Christmas and celebrate other holidays around the same time. And happy holidays is a bit more inclusive. Hell, not even all Christians celebrate Christmas on the 25th. Eastern Orthodox-ers(what's the plural of Orthodox?) don't celebrate Christmas until January 7th.

I have no problem with either.

I like Bogo but Ennis and Kulikov are crap.
- SABRES 89

I think Kulikov REALLY got hurt eating that "door sandwich."
And Ennis was a player most teams would take at his salary for his production before he became "injury prone."
Which is a synonym for bad luck.
I kinda wish we had some means to hang on to zadorov. A young psycho defenceman who makes everyone on the other team keep his head on a swivel.
The older defencemen who are known for their hitting game seem to deterioate quickly, for obvious reasons.

Yeah But you have to vacuum again
- Buffalo--Sabres

I'll take that. It only takes about 10 minutes or so, my apartment is only like 800 sq/ft and subtract the kitchen, bathroom and one bedroom that is just storage.

- cabin

thanks Cab, gotta peace out for a bit. Drink some beers while im gone!

When they don't play well, and we pretend they do, that's what grind my gears.
- sbroads24

Pretending they play well, and saying they didn't play horribly is not the same. Again it goes to if they don't play great they play like poop, there's a middle ground. And personally, since you replied to me, when they (frank) up I call them on it.

you mean if they were elite, there wouldn't be a debate...vanek produced...roy produced...Pominville produced but there were constant arguments over their worth...I can defend almost anyone including gus who's only making $1.15 m and is playing well in a defensive role
- Michael Pachla

Eh, it's not that.

Right now Bogo+Kuli make around 9+ mil. Not to mention were each involved in deals with assets going the other way. Right now neither have a point.

They aren't AHL'ers, but they also aren't players you would feel safe jumping up a pair due to injury.

I'll take that. It only takes about 10 minutes or so, my apartment is only like 800 sq/ft and subtract the kitchen, bathroom and one bedroom that is just storage.
- Wetbandit1

Just cleaned out our kirby. My girls daughter had it and returned it . Said it wasn't picking up. Was plugged solid . Now it sucks like the rest of them.

Kulikov missed a lot of time early in his career, but I wouldn't call him injury prone.

I guess IMO it's just safe to say, they are what they are. Not guys you want playing big minutes on a contending team
- sbroads24

I wasn't calling Kulikov injury prone, he suffered a freak injury, kind of like Lehner getting kicked in the head by a teammate. That's why I said he was different.

thanks Cab, gotta peace out for a bit. Drink some beers while im gone!
- seedy

Sure thing I'm on it .
Damn. After nine . time for some smokeables

Just cleaned out our kirby. My girls daughter had it and returned it . Said it wasn't picking up. Was plugged solid . Now it sucks like the rest of them.
- cabin

I grew up with a Kirby, that (frank)ing thing weighed like 30 lbs! I have a Dyson now, and i would rather it be heavier so it can press into the carpet a little to grab more dirt, and I even have one of the heavy ones. It's good, but I don't think I'd buy another one.

there's guys like you and then, there's guys in white capris and flip flops talking hockey here.
Guys like you tend to understand the reality of building a team.
The other ones seem to know where to find deals on fashion items.
….And this isn't "fashion item buzz"
- seedy

Rattled

I grew up with a Kirby, that (frank)ing thing weighed like 30 lbs! I have a Dyson now, and i would rather it be heavier so it can press into the carpet a little to grab more dirt, and I even have one of the heavy ones. It's good, but I don't think I'd buy another one.
- Wetbandit1

Have 3 of them. Plus a central vac system.
Savers on sheridan and Eggert 20 bucks each. Like brand new . And have every attachment available

Doesn't anyone say Merry Christmas anymore ? that's what it is not happy holidays. .
- SABRES 89

(frank) Christmas!

for the Sabres or another team.
- SABRES 89

whoa

overanalyzing will do that to you...

and btw, give kuli a break already...he missed camp because of the world cup, was injured in preseason...came back too early and tried to play injured...all of this for a new team
- Michael Pachla

He was bad before this though...Ive always loathed this argument with bogosian as well.

If O'Reilly or Okposo were coming off injury and needed time to adjust id have no problem with that. Because they've been very good before and i know they're capable of being very good again. Ditto Eichel and the high ankle sprain.

Bogosian and Kulikov healthy are not good defensemen. Their high draft status and big cap hit do not change that.

Not if they franchise him...then he sits the entire year if he doesn't sign it.
- Stripes77

Wouldn't it still count against The cap If he sits out the whole year

More than producers in the offensive zone? I don't think they are clones either, except to you and Broads.
- GilPerreault11

I mean calling them completely useless is admittedly an overreaction but they give the least amount of value of any player on this team mostly because of what they are being paid. On any contending team both of them slot in as bottom pairing guys.

I wanna hear more about this Guhle thing

(frank) Christmas!
- jochfr

Grinch