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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
Rex had 28 coaches....

28!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Think the avg is in the 15 range.

- dadeadhead

I remember seeing that...unbelievable...

seems like a lot of his cronies, topped by his brother, took advantage of Pegula's money
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Dec 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
I am no Bills fan, I just dont see how it didn't work out. This was two of their better seasons in their drought. Realistically this is their best 3 year period in the drought. It takes time to build a team with the coaches right personal and philosophy. Perfect example is Jason Garrett and his three 8-8 seasons in Dallas.

Now they are just going to bring in a new coach, with a different system and direction. The Bills regressed yesterday.

- Mentalorgasm5

Rex Ryan and his way too complicated system sucks. Offenses speed up and his scheme goes up in flames. The book is out on him. For some reason he has to have multiple fronts and packages for the most infinitetesimal differences in down and distance and can't even get players on the field let alone the call in on time. Mario destroyed him last year after a game about this. Rex's solution for better communication was getting more cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, great idea Rex, get more people involved to really make it a cluster (frank). I'm glad he is gone. Next year would surely be a waste with him around. This team is built for the 4-3 and Ragland coming in confirms my prognosis.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:09 PM ET
you could be right...but fact is, rex's defense was a colossal failure and he was supposedly a defensive genius...whaley did a lot of work bringing in playmakers on offense thinking rex could take care of the d...it didn't work out
- Michael Pachla

Problem was Pegula hired a coach with a different defensive scheme than the previous coach. You needed to give Rex time to get 3-4 players here. The defense was bound to regress when you switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and kept many of the players.

Terry wanted a big name, they brought one in and didn't give him nearly enough time to implement his scheme with the correct player personal.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:12 PM ET
Problem was Pegula hired a coach with a different defensive scheme than the previous coach. You needed to give Rex time to get 3-4 players here. The defense was bound to regress when you switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and kept many of the players.

Terry wanted a big name, they brought one in and didn't give him nearly enough time to implement his scheme with the correct player personal.

- Mentalorgasm5

Giving him time was never going to change the awful game management decisions he's made.

Bad challenges, punting when you need to win, having 10 men on the field, etc.

Saturday was the last straw
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
Problem was Pegula hired a coach with a different defensive scheme than the previous coach. You needed to give Rex time to get 3-4 players here. The defense was bound to regress when you switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and kept many of the players.

Terry wanted a big name, they brought one in and didn't give him nearly enough time to implement his scheme with the correct player personal.

- Mentalorgasm5


Personally, I wanted them to just promote Schwartz. If one more person told me "he was a failure of a head coach" but then turned around and supported Rex, I was going to puke.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
Problem was Pegula hired a coach with a different defensive scheme than the previous coach. You needed to give Rex time to get 3-4 players here. The defense was bound to regress when you switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and kept many of the players.

Terry wanted a big name, they brought one in and didn't give him nearly enough time to implement his scheme with the correct player personal.

- Mentalorgasm5



maybe...but whether it's 3-4 or 4-3, way too much confusion on defense and that's on him and his brother
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
First thing on nfl radio at 3


Why would want to coach thr bills when powers above handcuff your qb selection
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Personally, I wanted them to just promote Schwartz. If one more person told me "he was a failure of a head coach" but then turned around and supported Rex, I was going to puke.
- HonkFortheGoose


Bill Belichick didn't do well in first stint either.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
Personally, I wanted them to just promote Schwartz. If one more person told me "he was a failure of a head coach" but then turned around and supported Rex, I was going to puke.
- HonkFortheGoose

I was kind of surprised they didn't promote Schwartz.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
First thing on nfl radio at 3


Why would want to coach thr bills when powers above handcuff your qb selection

- homiedclown

rex wanted taylor...what part of that don't they understand?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
Personally, I wanted them to just promote Schwartz. If one more person told me "he was a failure of a head coach" but then turned around and supported Rex, I was going to puke.
- HonkFortheGoose



Rex Ryan did get to two straight AFC Championships, with a mediocre at best quarterback as well. Schwartz never did anything near that.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
Bill Belichick didn't do well in first stint either.
- mattsox

Many coaches don't. IMO there isn't much difference between coaches in the NFL. There is two big things needed in the NFL for success, continuity and luck finding a QB.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Dec 28 @ 3:28 PM ET
Giving him time was never going to change the awful game management decisions he's made.

Bad challenges, punting when you need to win, having 10 men on the field, etc.

Saturday was the last straw

- sbroads24

Rex should've been handed his walking papers the moment he told Terry he was going to fire G-Ro after the defense got shredded by the Jets the night before.

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:32 PM ET
Problem was Pegula hired a coach with a different defensive scheme than the previous coach. You needed to give Rex time to get 3-4 players here. The defense was bound to regress when you switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and kept many of the players.

Terry wanted a big name, they brought one in and didn't give him nearly enough time to implement his scheme with the correct player personal.

- Mentalorgasm5


This is a very interesting take, especially in light of the tone of this thread for the last 2 weeks.

The Bills Defense was 3rd in the NFL as a 4-3 when the "Defensive Genius" took over. The "Genius" decided he needed to implement a different system, even though he didn't have the appropriate personnel to implement it. Then he spent the next two years tearing the D apart and trying to make them play his way.

Disco has done exactly the same thing, in the view of many posters here. Bylsma has insisted that players play his system, instead of playing to their natural skills. poop, after crowning Mario Williams king for even coming here, and then watching him have an AMAZING year, we ran him out of town because his skills weren't suited to the 3-4 that Rex implemented.

If he's a (frank)ing GENIUS, why can't he just tweak the system that was 3rd in the league when he got here?

More importantly, from my perspective, why can't somebody tell this story to goddamn Bylsma so he will just let the Sabres play the way their skills say they should.


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:37 PM ET
This is a very interesting take, especially in light of the tone of this thread for the last 2 weeks.

The Bills Defense was 3rd in the NFL as a 4-3 when the "Defensive Genius" took over. The "Genius" decided he needed to implement a different system, even though he didn't have the appropriate personnel to implement it. Then he spent the next two years tearing the D apart and trying to make them play his way.

Disco has done exactly the same thing, in the view of many posters here. Bylsma has insisted that players play his system, instead of playing to their natural skills. poop, after crowning Mario Williams king for even coming here, and then watching him have an AMAZING year, we ran him out of town because his skills weren't suited to the 3-4 that Rex implemented.

If he's a (frank)ing GENIUS, why can't he just tweak the system that was 3rd in the league when he got here?

More importantly, from my perspective, why can't somebody tell this story to goddamn Bylsma so he will just let the Sabres play the way their skills say they should.

- Der Kaiser



While a fair point about Ryan, this Sabres team never really had an identity when Bylsma took over. They weren't leading the lead in anything, or near the top of the league in anything.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:41 PM ET
While a fair point about Ryan, this Sabres team never really had an identity when Bylsma took over. They weren't leading the lead in anything, or near the top of the league in anything.
- buffalofan19


I think you missed the point.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:45 PM ET
Sears closing Blvd mall and Galleria mall locations in mid-April
- cabin



The Boulevard will probably be closed in a year or two. When Whole Foods opens they will take half of their stores for the strip mall due to their contract.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 28 @ 3:48 PM ET
The Boulevard will probably be closed in a year or two. When Whole Foods opens they will take half of their stores for the strip mall due to their contract.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Aren't they taking over northtowns plaza across from walmart ?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 28 @ 3:50 PM ET
Aren't they taking over northtowns plaza across from walmart ?
- cabin


Yup. The construction is probably about half done at this point.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:51 PM ET
I think you missed the point.
- Der Kaiser



Your question about Ryan was "why couldn't he just tweak the system that was 3rd in the league when he got here"? And then you essentially asked the same thing about Bylsma. My answer was that the Sabres had no system worth keeping. In fact, the former coach of this franchise, didn't really have a system at all.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:52 PM ET
Aren't they taking over northtowns plaza across from walmart ?
- cabin



Yes and they have contracts with Banana republic, Eddie Bauer and a handful of other stores that are in the Blvd. so they will all have to relocate to Northtown once Whole Foods opens.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 28 @ 3:53 PM ET
Yes and they have contracts with Banana republic, Eddie Bauer and a handful of other stores that are in the Blvd. so they will all have to relocate to Northtown once Whole Foods opens.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I see . Been a few years since in that mall. I guess D!cks sporting goods is in there from what I heard .
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
This is a very interesting take, especially in light of the tone of this thread for the last 2 weeks.

The Bills Defense was 3rd in the NFL as a 4-3 when the "Defensive Genius" took over. The "Genius" decided he needed to implement a different system, even though he didn't have the appropriate personnel to implement it. Then he spent the next two years tearing the D apart and trying to make them play his way.

Disco has done exactly the same thing, in the view of many posters here. Bylsma has insisted that players play his system, instead of playing to their natural skills. poop, after crowning Mario Williams king for even coming here, and then watching him have an AMAZING year, we ran him out of town because his skills weren't suited to the 3-4 that Rex implemented.

If he's a (frank)ing GENIUS, why can't he just tweak the system that was 3rd in the league when he got here?

More importantly, from my perspective, why can't somebody tell this story to goddamn Bylsma so he will just let the Sabres play the way their skills say they should.

- Der Kaiser

Who fits this mold on the Sabres though?

Kane is playing his best hockey in years because someone finally realized he doesn't belong with top end talent. And no this isn't a criticism of him, he's just a great checking line winger. Does Bylsma get no credit for the good?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Your question about Ryan was "why couldn't he just tweak the system that was 3rd in the league when he got here"? And then you essentially asked the same thing about Bylsma. My answer was that the Sabres had no system worth keeping. In fact, the former coach of this franchise, didn't really have a system at all.
- buffalofan19


Like I said, you missed the point. In fact, by focusing on the system, you are making the same mistake that Rex and Disco are.

My question was "Why can't a genius realize that forcing players to adjust their skills to fit your system doesn't work as well as adjusting your system to your players skills?" and then I asked "Why can't somebody point out to Bylsma that Rex just got fired for making that mistake."
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 28 @ 3:59 PM ET
I see . Been a few years since in that mall. I guess D!cks sporting goods is in there from what I heard .
- cabin



Yeah they knocked down the food court and turned that into Richards.
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