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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 31 @ 1:31 PM ET
People laughed at Einstein too
- PhillySportsGuy


No, they laughed with Einstein
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 31 @ 1:37 PM ET
lets see if he sustains it beyond this season. for all that went wrong for Columbus last year (I predicted them to make the playoffs), all is going right for them this season. good health, good production
- nastyflyergirl


I'm hoping their shooting % comes down to reality too...I believe it just has too
8 people above 15% is not sustainable.
Neither are Bob's Groin muscles.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 31 @ 1:37 PM ET
Facing bigger teams and getting manhandled. Pens have the speed/skill to overcome it the flyers don't have it. It's not that hard to figure out.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 31 @ 1:39 PM ET
Facing bigger teams and getting manhandled. Pens have the speed/skill to overcome it the flyers don't have it. It's not that hard to figure out.
- Just5



the Flyers are neither big or fast. something I hope they continue to improve on
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 31 @ 1:45 PM ET
the Flyers are neither big or fast. something I hope they continue to improve on
- nastyflyergirl


Being big and fast would be awesome, but at this point, I'd settle for being at least one of them. More skill throughout the lineup would be nice too. After G, Jake, Konecny, Ghost and Provorov there is a pretty big drop off when it comes to top end skill.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
the Flyers are neither big or fast. something I hope they continue to improve on
- nastyflyergirl


I'd like to see more emphasis on that in the draft. Not solely on size and speed but a lot of average skaters in the forward prospects.

Maybe dont worry so much if guys can play a "good defensive game".
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...-a-brayden-schenn-problem

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
I'd like to see more emphasis on that in the draft. Not solely on size and speed but a lot of average skaters in the forward prospects.

Maybe dont worry so much if guys can play a "good defensive game".

- flyer_nutter


The lack of development by Laughton and morin has hurt this team into making more headway. People can say what they want. But a 13th overall and I believe a 20th overall should be up and contributing in some kind of capacity by now. Morins lack of offense means he better be as savvy as a Karl Alzner to be considered a top 4 d in this league. I'm not sure if he has that level of hockey sense. Laughton doesn't have much time left before he's not considered a prospect anymore and just a bust. If he's not up by the end of this year it's fair to label him a bust
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 31 @ 1:58 PM ET
Miss having your team come over on NEW YEAR's eve games. Always lots of fun. Can you guys send Nucker over to Buzz Canuck thread for old times sake
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Dec 31 @ 1:59 PM ET
Greetings from the Bell Center. I'm at the Swe-Czech game. Czechs are pretty outmatched. Sandstrom is not starting. I'll share any news on our guys.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 2:02 PM ET
The lack of development by Laughton and morin has hurt this team into making more headway. People can say what they want. But a 13th overall and I believe a 20th overall should be up and contributing in some kind of capacity by now. Morins lack of offense means he better be as savvy as a Karl Alzner to be considered a top 4 d in this league. I'm not sure if he has that level of hockey sense. Laughton doesn't have much time left before he's not considered a prospect anymore and just a bust. If he's not up by the end of this year it's fair to label him a bust
- Just5


There is no set formula or time frame for a prospect developing into a full time NHL player, regardless of where he was drafted. How much of Morin have you watched play in professional hockey to question his hockey sense? I can understand having question marks about Laughton at this point, but not Morin. Way too premature for that, and quite frankly ridiculous.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 31 @ 2:03 PM ET
The lack of development by Laughton and morin has hurt this team into making more headway. People can say what they want. But a 13th overall and I believe a 20th overall should be up and contributing in some kind of capacity by now. Morins lack of offense means he better be as savvy as a Karl Alzner to be considered a top 4 d in this league. I'm not sure if he has that level of hockey sense. Laughton doesn't have much time left before he's not considered a prospect anymore and just a bust. If he's not up by the end of this year it's fair to label him a bust
- Just5


Morin still needs time. He has a lot of raw skills and needs to develop them. I'm ok if he takes till next year to come up to the big club. I would be shocked to see sanheim as well next year.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 31 @ 2:06 PM ET
With the Flyers scuffling offensively, Flyers head coach Dave Hakstol's decision to make rookie forward Travis Konecny a healthy scratch in San Jose was puzzling and hard to defend.


THIS!

- BiggE

San Jose are the Western Champions. Travis Konecny just came off a two assist game in St Louis. After a game like New Jersey, Yes, you need all hands on deck to play with the Sharks. I don't have an issue with sitting Konecny but only if the time feels, right. Lyubimov in favor of Gordon is another bad decision because Gordon hasn't done anything that makes him irrelevant in the NHL. In fact I would waive him for the rest of the season.

Lyubimov has sat enough. One bad penalty coming off a long break, I think is a little much. I think Lyubimov has seen enough scratches. I think it's time to consider Cousins and dare I say Vandevelde who has been in part of a questionable penalty kill lately.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Dec 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
San Jose are the Western Champions. Travis Konecny just came off a two assist game in St Louis. After a game like New Jersey, Yes, you need all hands on deck to play with the Sharks. I don't have an issue with sitting Konecny but only if the time feels, right. Lyubimov in favor of Gordon is another bad decision because Gordon hasn't done anything that makes him irrelevant in the NHL. In fact I would waive him for the rest of the season.

Lyubimov has sat enough. One bad penalty coming off a long break, I think is a little much. I think Lyubimov has seen enough scratches. I think it's time to consider Cousins and dare I say Vandevelde who has been in part of a questionable penalty kill lately.

- SuperSchennBros


Did you mention vdv in the same sentence as scratch!!!??? oh no you didn't, but we all know what you mean. gotta have those 14-15 type forwards playing ahead of our top prospects. cmon now. where have you been.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 31 @ 2:19 PM ET
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2016/12/30/14101810/the-flyers-have-a-brayden-schenn-problem
- Just5

This team is so weird and so is Schenn.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 31 @ 2:20 PM ET
the Flyers are neither big or fast. something I hope they continue to improve on
- nastyflyergirl



Hmmmmm how would Patrick Maroon look with 28-93.3 if he didn't do whatever he did to be banished...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 31 @ 2:43 PM ET
Hmmmmm how would Patrick Maroon look with 28-93.3 if he didn't do whatever he did to be banished...
- Konalover


Please. Holmgren acquired that stud Danny Syvret for Maroon. Flyers won that trade big league. Not even an issue.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 31 @ 2:57 PM ET
Hmmmmm how would Patrick Maroon look with 28-93.3 if he didn't do whatever he did to be banished...
- Konalover


Raffl is a better player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 31 @ 3:03 PM ET
Kris Draper almost just got the Ben Eager treatment from Gary Roberts in the alumni game.

Domi and Kocur broke it up.
Anyone seen any frogs or locusts raining down?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 31 @ 3:24 PM ET
The Flyers next year might look like this:

12-28-93
11-14-17
Lindblom-xxxx-10
58-25/21/etc-13/24/22

That's a solid lineup! As the last two years have gone, 3C has been a giant hole. We don't need a superstar, we just need a good 30+ point player, one who is solid as a play driver. Namestnikov is an intriguing name because Tampa can't protect him. Then with Lindblom and Schenn, or Raffl and Simmer, or whatever combo, the top 9 wings are stacked and 3 lines deep, so it doesn't matter! Especially with expansion looming, they're out there if a team can't protect them. Get that and cut some of the fat from the bottom, and that's a damned good lineup with Lindblom surely coming into the fold next year.

Flyers just can't go another offseason thinking guys like Boyd Gordon and Dale Weise are what this team is lacking. A quality 3C is priority #1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. I only hope they choose wisely this time as well.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 3:49 PM ET
2-0 USA
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
2-0 USA
- mayorofangrytown

On a brutal call on Myers
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 3:52 PM ET
Myers took his feet out but it's not kneeing
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
On a brutal call on Myers
- SuperSchennBros

There's your make up call
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
USA looks good.

Speed kills, Canada looks sloppy and slow.
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