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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:07 AM ET
I don't think I'll ever understand peoples obsession with Trouba
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm sure everyone has NHL gamecenter so they can catch all his games too
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:08 AM ET
As much as I like him, I'd definitely do that Ghost for Trouba trade. I doubt Wpg would, though. They tend to shoot a bit high in trade values. I think Sanheim would pick up any difference in offense next year if it did happen, though.
- Coleman


Agreed, a guy with zero games of NHL experience can easily replace the guy who was #2 in Calder voting last year.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 11:09 AM ET
I don't think I'll ever understand peoples obsession with Trouba
- PhillySportsGuy

I dunno. Solid 2-way guy who plays in all situations. Big shot. Decent physical play. Good set up guy. He'd be a good wing man for Provorov. I'm not as big of a proponent of handedness as some, but another good RH shot wouldn't be such a bad thing on this defense.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jan 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Glad we've circled the wagon around the idea that trading Ghost will fix all our problems.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
I dunno. Solid 2-way guy who plays in all situations. Big shot. Decent physical play. Good set up guy. He'd be a good wing man for Provorov. I'm not as big of a proponent of handedness as some, but another good RH shot wouldn't be such a bad thing on this defense.
- Coleman

He's not as solid as you think
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:13 AM ET
Glad we've circled the wagon around the idea that trading Ghost will fix all our problems.
- KGBflyers10

We should do this every Tuesday save some time.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jan 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
Agreed, a guy with zero games of NHL experience can easily replace the guy who was #2 in Calder voting last year.
- jmatchett383

Fair, but not fair. You would also be getting Trouba...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
We should do this every Tuesday save some time.
- Mordecai

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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
As much as I like him, I'd definitely do that Ghost for Trouba trade. I doubt Wpg would, though. They tend to shoot a bit high in trade values. I think Sanheim would pick up any difference in offense next year if it did happen, though.
- Coleman


I wouldn't trade Ghost for anyone. I think the only thing we should worry about is weeding out the major garbage. Upgrade the bottom nine. Get a top six left winger who is a natural on that side. Let most of the UFAs walk. Cross our fingers that one of Morin or Sanheim is can grab a spot next season.

I think my mindset (possible or not) believes Michael Raffl can bring back an upgrade if we sweeten the pot. He's not perfect but he's reliable, especially for a team that might need to dump a little salary.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
I wouldn't trade Ghost for anyone. I think the only thing we should worry about is weeding out the major garbage. Upgrade the bottom nine. Get a top six left winger who is a natural on that side. Let most of the UFAs walk. Cross our fingers that one of Morin or Sanheim is can grab a spot next season.

I think my mindset (possible or not) believes Michael Raffl can bring back an upgrade if we sweeten the pot. He's not perfect but he's reliable, especially for a team that might need to dump a little salary.

- SuperSchennBros


Raffl has little value, IMHO
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
Fair, but not fair. You would also be getting Trouba...
- Coleman


Good point, but I just don't like the idea of trading the offensive dynamo that he is. Trouba is good, but he can't match what Ghost brings offensively.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'm sure everyone has NHL gamecenter so they can catch all his games too
- YuenglingJagr


Trouba doesn't really stand out when you watch him. Not saying he's bad at all, but I'd be very nervous about trading Ghost or Sanheim for him.

Assuming he comes back healthy to finish the season, I'd rather go after Myers before the ED since he should be much cheaper with the Jets need to move a dman with a NMC so they can protect 7 forwards.

Provorov-Gudas
Sanheim-Myers
Morin-Ghost
MacDonald

Manning to Vegas.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Raffl has little value, IMHO
- Streit2ThePoint


Raffl is a very valuable player, but he has more value to the lineup than in a trade. He'd maybe bring a late second, more likely a 3rd at most.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Worth noting...but Bundy screaming "best game of the year!" in the third against the ducks made me LOL, despite how cheesy it was
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Trouba doesn't really stand out when you watch him. Not saying he's bad at all, but I'd be very nervous about trading Ghost or Sanheim for him.

Assuming he comes back healthy to finish the season, I'd rather go after Myers before the ED since he should be much cheaper with the Jets need to move a dman with a NMC so they can protect 7 forwards.

Provorov-Gudas
Sanheim-Myers
Morin-Ghost
MacDonald

Manning to Vegas.

- Feanor


I'd be down with that. Out of curiosity: would you rather protect Gudas or Manning given their contracts and play? Yes, I'm being serious.

Also, what would you give for Myers, keeping in mind they probably don't want another player they'd have to protect unless it's a good upgrade? Would you do a 1st plus prospect like Lyon/NAK/Fazleev?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Worth noting...but Bundy screaming "best game of the year!" in the third against the ducks made me LOL, despite how cheesy it was
- YuenglingJagr


I loved it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
Worth noting...but Bundy screaming "best game of the year!" in the third against the ducks made me LOL, despite how cheesy it was
- YuenglingJagr


Which team was he saying that about? I watched it on the NHL network so I had the Ducks team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
Which team was he saying that about?
- Scoob


Slovakia
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jan 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'd be down with that. Out of curiosity: would you rather protect Gudas or Manning given their contracts and play? Yes, I'm being serious.

Also, what would you give for Myers, keeping in mind they probably don't want another player they'd have to protect unless it's a good upgrade? Would you do a 1st plus prospect like Lyon/NAK/Fazleev?

- jmatchett383


He's talking about Phil, not Tyler.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I was talking about Tyler Myers and I would consider something like Hagg + 3rd for him, again, if he comes back healthy.

Phil Myers needs AHL time, just like Sanheim.

I'd be down with that. Out of curiosity: would you rather protect Gudas or Manning given their contracts and play? Yes, I'm being serious.
- jmatchett383


Gudas, and it's not even close.

Gudas is a top 4 RHD on a nice contract. Manning is a #6/7.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
I'd be down with that. Out of curiosity: would you rather protect Gudas or Manning given their contracts and play? Yes, I'm being serious.
- jmatchett383


Despite his still existing penchant for dumb penalties, Gudas.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
I was talking about Tyler Myers and I would consider something like Hagg + 3rd for him, again, if he comes back healthy.

Phil Myers needs AHL time, just like sanheim.



Gudas, and it's not even close.

Gudas is a top 4 RHD on a nice contract. Manning is a #6/7.

- Feanor


Ok, here's a better one. Would you trade Gudas for Trouba?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Ok, here's a better one. Would you trade Gudas for Trouba?
- PhillySportsGuy


Trouba is younger and has more upside, so I probably would even though Gudas is a better possession dman at the moment. But the Jets wouldn't do that. They need to move a dman for assets that are exempt from the expansion draft so they can protect 7 forwards.

Or buy out Enstrom.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
He's talking about Phil, not Tyler.
- KGBflyers10


So he wants the Flyers to "go after" a player they already have the rights to???
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
I was talking about Tyler Myers and I would consider something like Hagg + 3rd for him, again, if he comes back healthy.

Phil Myers needs AHL time, just like Sanheim.



Gudas, and it's not even close.

Gudas is a top 4 RHD on a nice contract. Manning is a #6/7.

- Feanor


I don't think a 3rd + B prospect gets it done, personally. I know that Myers has somewhat devolved into a rich man's Luke Schenn (maybe closer to J-Bo), but I still think that it would have to be at least a 2nd and B+/better prospect, even with the ED coming.
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