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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 2:44 PM ET
Well, if those 3 are a combined 3 for 31, why not try Provorov?
- BiggE


Probably because he's never been a regular shootout player before and they have better options in the forwards.

I have no idea what you have seen from Provorov that makes you think he would be good at shootouts.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
Is 2/16 really better than 1/12? Looks like 4 extra chances to me.
- SuperSchennBros


12.5% is greater than 8.3%, yes.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 2:48 PM ET
12.5% is greater than 8.3%, yes.
- Feanor


Despite being right you will never win an argument here. My suspicion the next statement you will here will be about the "sample size"
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:52 PM ET
Probably because he's never been a regular shootout player before and they have better options in the forwards.

I have no idea what you have seen from Provorov that makes you think he would be good at shootouts.

- Feanor

Nothing personal, but I've seen next to nothing to think Couturier is good at shootouts.

It was a mistake, one that everyone thought even before he shot. When you had Konecny or Brayden as other options that was a varsity move.

Just me.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 2:54 PM ET
Nothing personal, but I've seen next to nothing to think Couturier is good at shootouts.

It was a mistake, one that everyone thought even before he shot. When you had Konecny or Brayden as other options that was a varsity move.

Just me.

- flyer_nutter


this is an oxymoron
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:55 PM ET
Nothing personal, but I've seen next to nothing to think Couturier is good at shootouts.

It was a mistake, one that everyone thought even before he shot. When you had Konecny or Brayden as other options that was a varsity move.

Just me.

- flyer_nutter


Junior varsity move.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
this is an oxymoron
- missingmike

Maybe just a moron
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
Junior varsity move.
- PLindbergh31


Not that I think it would make a huge difference but I would like to see a stat of timeouts taken by a coach. Just to see where the Flyers rank.

For my own wild curiosity.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Maybe just a moron
- flyer_nutter


On a serious note, we do know official SO record, however, we are not present at SO practice.
Perhaps some data from that helps coaches make their decision (granted they have been practicing against the Flyers goalies, which may be a vicious cycle of doom )
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Not that I think it would make a huge difference but I would like to see a stat of timeouts taken by a coach. Just to see where the Flyers rank.

For my own wild curiosity.

- flyer_nutter


I'm sure if you dig, you can find that somewhere.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
Speaking of JvR, Eklund has Philly interested in bringing back JvR. Mixed feelings about this. He doesn't strike me as a force but he's been an unbalanced team offense for so long, I'm interested in seeing what he could bring with G and Jake. He's a good shootout player and I think he's better than anything we currently have on the left side. I'm just not sure if he's a legitimate top line player.
- SuperSchennBros


Not the right move. Would rather look for a center. Schenn can play wing, Konecny, Lindblom up next year in all likelihood, etc. Trade for a center we cant bank on Laughton/Cousins
scorachek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mount Joy, PA
Joined: 12.22.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
was it? I assumed air freshener. Love them even more
- Just5

It is visor cleaner
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jan 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
Not the right move. Would rather look for a center. Schenn can play wing, Konecny, Lindblom up next year in all likelihood, etc. Trade for a center we cant bank on Laughton/Cousins
- Just5

We easily need depth on the left side, it's not even close.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
Both SO last night were score high glove side on Mase. Glove has been his strong side. I think he has problem with reaction to a release.

Thoughts from goalies here?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
12.5% is greater than 8.3%, yes.
- Feanor


I would rather see those four extra attempts by Schenn and shorten the margin.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
On a serious note, we do know official SO record, however, we are not present at SO practice.
Perhaps some data from that helps coaches make their decision (granted they have been practicing against the Flyers goalies, which may be a vicious cycle of doom )

- missingmike


The fact that Hak hasn't really been using anyone consistently except Giroux and Cousins makes me think he's still searching. He does seem to use Simmonds more often now.

I'd like to see him pick an order and stick with it all season. I feel the players would perform better if there was a routine.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
I would rather see those four extra attempts by Schenn and shorten the margin.
- SuperSchennBros

or not.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
The fact that Hak hasn't really been using anyone consistently except Giroux and Cousins makes me think he's still searching. He does seem to use Simmonds more often now.

I'd like to see him pick an order and stick with it all season. I feel the players would perform better if there was a routine.

- PhillySportsGuy


V as well seems to appear rather regularly
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
He'd be an upgrade, but, as always, it will come down to what will it take to get him.
- BiggE


I wouldn't dangle anymore than Weise, Read, Laughton and my best offer being Raffl. In terms of sweetening the pot, no more than a third or a modest prospect such as Hagg.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
or not.
- missingmike


And why not? Pride? What would be so horrible about giving Schenn, Read or other guys chances at the shootout, an area of the games this team isn't great at.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:12 PM ET
Nothing personal, but I've seen next to nothing to think Couturier is good at shootouts.

It was a mistake, one that everyone thought even before he shot. When you had Konecny or Brayden as other options that was a varsity move.

Just me.

- flyer_nutter


Schenn is a definitely better shootout option despite being objectively worse at shootouts.

Forget varstiy, some of you guys need to go back to elementary school and do some remedial math.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:14 PM ET
And why not? Pride? What would be so horrible about giving Schenn, Read or other guys chances at the shootout, an area of the games this team isn't great at.
- SuperSchennBros

again, we do not know what the coaches see/ dont see during SO practice.

Additionally, if Schenn does not score on his additional attempts the margin becomes even larger.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:14 PM ET
I don't see it happening. JVR is a streaky player. He's similar to Schenn in that regard. He's better than Schenn, but he's one of those players that when he isn't scoring he's not helping you in any other ways.
- PLindbergh31

jvr could do well in Haks system. even guys like simmer are buying into playing defense.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:15 PM ET
And why not? Pride? What would be so horrible about giving Schenn, Read or other guys chances at the shootout, an area of the games this team isn't great at.
- SuperSchennBros


Read is 1 for his last 13 attempts.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
Schenn is a better shootout option despite being objectively worse at shootouts.
- Feanor


Nutter doesn't even like Schenn but I'm sure he objectively noticed that Coots has one more successful team with four more attempts.
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