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scorachek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mount Joy, PA
Joined: 12.22.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
The fact that Hak hasn't really been using anyone consistently except Giroux and Cousins makes me think he's still searching. He does seem to use Simmonds more often now.

I'd like to see him pick an order and stick with it all season. I feel the players would perform better if there was a routine.

- PhillySportsGuy

I agree. I would like to see G V 17 TK Ghost Schenn Read... then pull from a hat
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
again, we do not know what the coaches see/ dont see during SO practice.

Additionally, if Schenn does not score on his additional attempts the margin becomes even larger.

- missingmike

We don't know if we have a shootout practice.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
Probably because he's never been a regular shootout player before and they have better options in the forwards.

I have no idea what you have seen from Provorov that makes you think he would be good at shootouts.

- Feanor

Good hands and puck skills
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
Read is 1 for his last 13 attempts.
- Feanor

So three attempts than Coots. I would like to shorten that margin as well.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:18 PM ET
again, we do not know what the coaches see/ dont see during SO practice.
- missingmike


Cousin got the top spot for the past calendar year presumably because he was good at them in practice. Unfortunately, after going 3/5 in 14-15 and 15-16, he's 0/5 in 16-17.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:19 PM ET
So three attempts than Coots. I would like to shorten that margin as well.
- SuperSchennBros


Three fewer attempts, half as many goals.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
We don't know if we have a shootout practice.
- SuperSchennBros


Using your assumption we do not know if they practice many aspects of the game.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:22 PM ET
Good hands and puck skills
- BiggE


Lots of dmen have good hands at their position. Almost none of them are shootout regulars.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
Cousin got the top spot for the past calendar year presumably because he was good at them in practice. Unfortunately, after going 3/5 in 14-15 and 15-16, he's 0/5 in 16-17.
- Feanor


Just curious.

What were James can't Riemsdyk's shootout numbers when he was here (and likely not being used) and what are his attempts since playing in Toronto?

I ask because not everything done here in Philly, doesn't mean they're always the right decisions. Plenty of players on the bench.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
Just curious.

What were James can't Riemsdyk's shootout numbers when he was here (and likely not being used) and what are his attempts since playing in Toronto?

I ask because not everything done here in Philly, doesn't mean they're always the right decisions. Plenty of players on the bench.

- SuperSchennBros


I'm sure you're smart enough to research that yourself.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:24 PM ET
Using your assumption we do not know if they practice many aspects of the game.
- missingmike

So...thank you for making my point for me??
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
I'm sure you're smart enough to research that yourself.
- Feanor


You're already answering the questions not asked, I thought you could answer a question someone actually did ask. What are you afraid of?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
Just curious.

What were James can't Riemsdyk's shootout numbers when he was here (and likely not being used) and what are his attempts since playing in Toronto?

I ask because not everything done here in Philly, doesn't mean they're always the right decisions. Plenty of players on the bench.

- SuperSchennBros


In PHI
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missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
So...thank you for making my point for me??
- SuperSchennBros


Sure

Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
JVR back to Philly where did EK "hear" that
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 2 @ 3:47 PM ET
Tarasenko is so good, love that guy.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:48 PM ET
In PHI
2009 None
2010 None
2011 1-2

In TOR
2012 0-2
2013 6-10
2014 0-5
2015 0-2
2016 0-1

- moylander

Thank you sir. A little surprised by this. In 2013 I watched closely, it was as if he couldn't miss.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
Lots of dmen have good hands at their position. Almost none of them are shootout regulars.
- Feanor

JFC, outside of G, Jake, Simmer and Ghost (who is a Dman by the way), no one else seems to score in the SO so yeah, it may be a bit unorthodox, but I'd give Provy a try once they get to a 5th shooter.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
JVR back to Philly where did EK "hear" that
- Landsbergfan

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 2 @ 3:57 PM ET
We easily need depth on the left side, it's not even close.
- roenick97


All depends on where you see Schenn and Konecny for that matter. The big thing is there's no one coming up next year at center. Lindblom is coming at some point next year on the LW.

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
All depends on where you see Schenn and Konecny for that matter. The big thing is there's no one coming up next year at center. Lindblom is coming at some point next year on the LW.
- Just5

There are plenty of centers available in this year's draft. Sure it's considered weaker but we will have the opportunity to restock that position. I would seriously consider trading our 1st this year.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 2 @ 4:01 PM ET
JVR back to Philly where did EK "hear" that
- Landsbergfan


JVR for AMac?

I'm in.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 2 @ 4:04 PM ET
There are plenty of centers available in this year's draft. Sure it's considered weaker but we will have the opportunity to restock that position. I would seriously consider trading our 1st this year.
- Mordecai


Unless the Flyers are targeting someone in UFA. There is a hole in the lineup for a middle 6 center spot. It won't be filled internally this year or next by anyone realistically. So yes there's a definite need it will be interesting to see how they plan to address it.

Laughton is effing things up
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 2 @ 4:19 PM ET
All depends on where you see Schenn and Konecny for that matter. The big thing is there's no one coming up next year at center. Lindblom is coming at some point next year on the LW.
- Just5


If anyone can find fault with a top 9 with these as wingers, they are just looking to complain:

Lindblom-Voracek
Konecny-Simmonds
Raffl-Schenn

That looks great on paper. Just need to get a 3C in a trade with expansion leaving some good players available or maybe a UFA. That's the only weakness in the forward group, not at wing. Then you can have Leier-Weise/Read or something on the 4th line.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 2 @ 4:21 PM ET
Matt Duchesne for Ghost, 1st, Lyon
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