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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
don't be so sure...I believe one of the reasons he signed with buffalo was the proximity to his hometown near Rochester...and don't forget, he has his name on the cup already
- Michael Pachla


Fair point. Hadn't thought of that. All though to play devils advocate. Couldn't management tell Gionta we likely aren't going to bring you back after the year and if you're considering hanging up the skates wouldn't you want another decent shot at the cup? Gionta doesn't strike me as a guy who doesn't want to win. I'm sure if you asked him would he rather get a second cup or retire without being in the playoffs again he'd take the playoffs. So I guess we'll see.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
So we all agree that there is too much dead weight on this team, and we eagerly look forward to replacing them with our prospects, and others via trade or FA.
Me thinks this team is still in a world of hurt, as is shown in the "analysis" below ... we just don't have enough in the pipeline ... which leads me to the realization that Murray is going to need to go the FA route to fill a couple of holes even in view of Trade Deadline deals...

Deadweight:
Forwards
Moulson, Grant, Gionta
DeLo,

Defense
Franson, Gorges

On-the-Fence
Forwards
Girgenson, Ennis
Defense
Bogo, Kuli

Replacements, Ready Now
Forwards
Bailey, Baptiste, Fasching?, Carrier?
Defense
Guhle

Replacements, 1 year or more away
Forwards
Nylander, Asplund, Pu
Defense
Borgan, Fitzgerald, Martin


- IonSabres


you have players in the dead weight category that i would be pretty happy with moving for a pick. they are taking up cap space that can be used for ufas or (probably better) allow the sabres to actually take on salary in a trade. i dont quite understand the deslauriers hate, hes our 13th forward, we barely score 2 goals a game, hes not anywhere near the problem.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
Fair point. Hadn't thought of that. All though to play devils advocate. Couldn't management tell Gionta we likely aren't going to bring you back after the year and if you're considering hanging up the skates wouldn't you want another decent shot at the cup? Gionta doesn't strike me as a guy who doesn't want to win. I'm sure if you asked him would he rather get a second cup or retire without being in the playoffs again he'd take the playoffs. So I guess we'll see.
- bluengold12


When he signed with Buffalo he knew he probably wasn't going to get another run at the Cup and he signed the NMC to be sure he could stay close to his family during this time. He's not going to waive.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 2 @ 12:57 PM ET
you have players in the dead weight category that i would be pretty happy with moving for a pick. they are taking up cap space that can be used for ufas or (probably better) allow the sabres to actually take on salary in a trade. i dont quite understand the deslauriers hate, hes our 13th forward, we barely score 2 goals a game, hes not anywhere near the problem.
- rover16


The problem with Deslauries is guys like him Grant and Girgensons don't belong in the top 12 of an NHL club right now. Okay Girgensons maybe is at best a 4th liner. But when you have two young guys in the top 15 in scoring in the AHL in Bailey and Baptiste it's utterly and completely ridiculous not to give them a shot. Carrier is a much better version of Deslauries. He's faster, has just as great - if not more of a work ethic and about 10x more talent.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
When he signed with Buffalo he knew he probably wasn't going to get another run at the Cup and he signed the NMC to be sure he could stay close to his family during this time. He's not going to waive.
- Der Kaiser


I guess we'll see about that. Regardless I think a trade centering around Bailey, two seconds and another cheap effective NHL forward Girgensons maybe? would be appealing to Anaheim for Fowler
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 2 @ 1:45 PM ET
When he signed with Buffalo he knew he probably wasn't going to get another run at the Cup and he signed the NMC to be sure he could stay close to his family during this time. He's not going to waive.
- Der Kaiser


Adding he loves it here and so does his family. Pretty much wants to retire here.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
I guess we'll see about that. Regardless I think a trade centering around Bailey, two seconds and another cheap effective NHL forward Girgensons maybe? would be appealing to Anaheim for Fowler
- bluengold12



Maybe, i still dont believe fowler is good enough. We need better. Plus isnt he a ufa next year? not down to give him a massive raise.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
Maybe, i still dont believe fowler is good enough. We need better. Plus isnt he a ufa next year? not down to give him a massive raise.
- Sabresfan-365


He's been on fire this year. He's definitely good enough. Would be the best LHD we've had here since Jay Mckee and Brian Campbell. Worth the money.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
Maybe, i still dont believe fowler is good enough. We need better. Plus isnt he a ufa next year? not down to give him a massive raise.
- Sabresfan-365

Chances he ends up being the same as Franson or Bogo? A High priced expectation ?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
He's been on fire this year. He's definitely good enough. Would be the best LHD we've had here since Jay Mckee and Brian Campbell. Worth the money.
- bluengold12



Hes been sheltered on a great anaheim defense. still a lot of holes in his game.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
Chances he ends up being the same as Franson or Bogo? A High priced expectation ?
- cabin



This is exactly what im worried about cabin. Take him away from a juggernaut D and give him more responsibility then watch him crumble
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 1:59 PM ET
Hes been sheltered on a great anaheim defense. still a lot of holes in his game.
- Sabresfan-365

That and he's slowed down since his hot start. I'd be fine getting him, but that's another guy you end up giving up assets for and then signing to a big contract. Pass
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
That and he's slowed down since his hot start. I'd be fine getting him, but that's another guy you end up giving up assets for and then signing to a big contract. Pass
- sbroads24



I wouldn't be because we've got one more shot at a big move via trade. it can't be wasted on a guy like him. If we were flush that'd be a different story. Get me someone we don't have to worry about.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
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I'm told Bills WR Sammy Watkins will have another foot surgery this week
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
People in Buffalo are irritating waiting for a parking space and the person behind me is beeping the horn
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
People are irritating
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Fixed for accuracy
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
People in Buffalo are irritating waiting for a parking space and the person behind me is beeping the horn
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Reminds me of the sub counter.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
This is hilarious and this is terrible

Oh to be a Bills fan
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
Reminds me of the sub counter.
- cabin


Good point.
Do you understand now, junior?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
Whaley's going down in flames
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
Whaley's going down in flames
- Michael Pachla

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:20 PM ET
Whaley's going down in flames
- Michael Pachla



How the hell he still has a job right now is beyond me
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:22 PM ET

- cabin

the media's murdering him
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
How the hell he still has a job right now is beyond me
- Stripes77

because he's willing to face the firing squad for the organization
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