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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Sabres limping into Madison Square Garden. Eichel's frustration
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
Jack: "Sometimes offense is the best defense....when we play that way we usually win."

Me Thinks that Jack is fed the hell up with Bylsma's bullpoop

- feetontheair22


Spot on. Glad to see a 20 year old with balls stand up ... wonder what happened to the balls on the so called leadership of the team?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 4 @ 8:24 AM ET
They played a good game last night . The score shows it.
- cabin


I missed most of it. But that's ok. I caught the beginning part of the 3rd period in my car. From the sound of it, they did a good job of limiting the Rangers.

Not sure what's going on with Lundqvist, but he's now had 2 pretty bad outings against us.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 4 @ 8:37 AM ET
Standings if Buffalo hadn't poop the bed vs Boston and actually won both games:

Atlantic Division

Montreal - 38 GP, 52 points
Ottawa - 37 GP, 44 points
Toronto - 37 GP, 42 points
Tampa - 39 GP, 42 points
Buffalo - 37 GP, 40 points
Florida - 38 GP, 40 points
Boston - 40 GP, 40 points
Detroit - 37 GP, 37 points


(I ordered the 3-way tie by games played)

2 points out of a playoff spot in an equal number of GP as the 3rd place team

In reality, Buffalo has 16 games left this season vs Atlantic Division teams, 3 of which are against Montreal (separating them as very likely losses)
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 4 @ 8:43 AM ET
Standings if Buffalo hadn't poop the bed vs Boston and actually won both games:

Atlantic Division

Montreal - 38 GP, 52 points
Ottawa - 37 GP, 44 points
Toronto - 37 GP, 42 points
Tampa - 39 GP, 42 points
Buffalo - 37 GP, 40 points
Florida - 38 GP, 40 points
Boston - 40 GP, 40 points
Detroit - 37 GP, 37 points


(I ordered the 3-way tie by games played)

2 points out of a playoff spot in an equal number of GP as the 3rd place team

In reality, Buffalo has 16 games left this season vs Atlantic Division teams, 3 of which are against Montreal (separating them as very likely losses)

- stashu


Next up. Hawks
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 4 @ 8:53 AM ET
My expectations of a guy who was the first forward taken in his class are just different than yours.

He's a solid player. I'm not disputing that. If he keeps this pace and scores 55 points, Ill feel differently than when he was on pace for 38 after the first 16 games

Here's my point. Reinhart should be closer to the bolded, than the guys like Fabbri who were picked in the middle of the round.

And, yes I realize he isn't McDavid.

- sbroads24


Before I get into drafting etc., obviously Eichel has an effect with how teams will always key on him, but is there a chance Sam is playing better because he is playing center now instead of wing? I think that could very well be part of it.

I believe I shared in the past with my research that we won't know what Reinhart is as a fully developed player until he's in the middle of his 5th season, as is typical path of 2nd round picks.

I don't remember the pre-draft thoughts from experts, but I don't remember anybody calling him a dynamic offensive forward along the lines of McDavid, Matthews, or Laine, and I don't think it's fair to use Tarasenko as a comparison with where Tarasenko was picked and what he turned into.

Here are the groupings of the first forward taken from 1995 to 2015.

Elite: McDavid, John Tavares, Steve Stamkos, Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin

Top Quality: Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rick Nash, Eric Staal, Patrick Kane, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent Hopkins, Nathan MacKinnon

Quality: JP Dumont, Dany Heatley, Jordan Staal

Bust: Chad Kilger, Patrick Stefan, Nail Yakupov

I used hindsight in putting those groupings together because I don't remember the draft thoughts of each player going back 20 years.

Where do you put Sam in that group? Before the draft, I would say in the top quality group. After the draft? Perhaps in between the quality and top quality group.

It's difficult to say regarding his scoring with how league scoring is now, but if he turns into a consistent 65 point player with his all around game, I think he would be considered top quality?
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Jan 4 @ 8:53 AM ET
The season isn't over yet.

Very fun team when they play fast.

- Der Kaiser

Don't get too excited it's easy to look fast when the team your playing mails the game in and doesn't compete. We got spanked by an inferior opponent and still led in possession by a wide margin. Nice win for sabres but don't start putting away money for playoff tickets just yet.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 4 @ 8:55 AM ET
Don't get too excited it's easy to look fast when the team your playing mails the game in and doesn't compete. We got spanked by an inferior opponent and still led in possession by a wide margin. Nice win for sabres but don't start putting away money for playoff tickets just yet.
- Bobd62


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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 4 @ 8:56 AM ET
Don't get too excited it's easy to look fast when the team your playing mails the game in and doesn't compete. We got spanked by an inferior opponent and still led in possession by a wide margin. Nice win for sabres but don't start putting away money for playoff tickets just yet.
- Bobd62


Wow....

Really?

Was this necessary?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 4 @ 8:57 AM ET
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- kingcong39


He's not wrong. the Rangers pretty much dominated from the second period on.
We came out in the first with good pace, but you can tell the Rangers are the better team.

If we want to start talking turning this around, they need to string together 4 or 5 wins.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 8:58 AM ET
Don't get too excited it's easy to look fast when the team your playing mails the game in and doesn't compete. We got spanked by an inferior opponent and still led in possession by a wide margin. Nice win for sabres but don't start putting away money for playoff tickets just yet.
- Bobd62


We're last in the Eastern Conference. (frank) off.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
He's not wrong. the Rangers pretty much dominated the second period.
We came out in the first with good pace, but you can tell the Rangers are the better team.

If we want to start talking turning this around, they need to string together 4 or 5 wins.

- ImThatGuy


FTFY
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:00 AM ET
reinhart 14 points in 17 games
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:01 AM ET
reinhart 14 points in 17 games
- homiedclown


Skunk
Bust
Trade Him
Bag of Pucks


...I could go on..
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:02 AM ET
reinhart 14 points in 17 games
- homiedclown



BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 4 @ 9:02 AM ET
reinhart 14 points in 17 games
- homiedclown

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
He's not wrong. the Rangers pretty much dominated from the second period on.
We came out in the first with good pace, but you can tell the Rangers are the better team.

If we want to start talking turning this around, they need to string together 4 or 5 wins.

- ImThatGuy


They did? They didn't register a shot on goal in the 3rd until there was only 5:28 remaining.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
reinhart 14 points in 17 games
- homiedclown


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
They did? They didn't register a shot on goal in the 3rd until there was only 5:28 remaining.
- HonkFortheGoose


Hence, I fixed his comment.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
FTFY
- TheSabresTaco


I'm not trying to be a downer. They beat a good NYR team, but it was one win. They need to string together 4-5 in a row to show that they are better than what the record shows.

You want to prove the naysayers something, beat Chicago tomorrow.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:05 AM ET
I'm not trying to be a downer. They beat a good NYR team, but it was one win. They need to string together 4-5 in a row to show that they are better than what the record shows.

You want to prove me something, beat Chicago tomorrow.

- ImThatGuy


You're right. They do need to string a bunch together. But you know what you need to do first in order to string a few together? Get the first win, which they did. Now they need to build on it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- HonkFortheGoose

the hate he gets, kane and lehner is insane


yeah I busted on lehner for injuries, but when he is between the pipes, he holds his own

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
They did? They didn't register a shot on goal in the 3rd until there was only 5:28 remaining.
- HonkFortheGoose


Huh, for some reason i recall the third being different. {Shrugs}

Probably because I was taking care of my P.I.T.A. dogs for the first 10 minutes.

Side note. If Bailey goes back down before Grant I am going to drive up from GA and punch Pegula, Murray, and Bylsma square in the face.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:08 AM ET
Don't get too excited it's easy to look fast when the team your playing mails the game in and doesn't compete. We got spanked by an inferior opponent and still led in possession by a wide margin. Nice win for sabres but don't start putting away money for playoff tickets just yet.
- Bobd62

Doesn't matter how they played or didn't .

What was the score again ? I seemed to have forgotten it already .
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 4 @ 9:08 AM ET
Huh, for some reason i recall the third being different. {Shrugs}

Probably because I was taking care of my P.I.T.A. dogs for the first 10 minutes.

Side note. If Bailey goes back down before Grant I am going to drive up from GA and punch Pegula, Murray, and Bylsma square in the face.

- ImThatGuy

bailey gets a goal early in second and still finished with only 10 minutes of ice time


coach did not reward him for the goal

no pp time in 3rd period when game was over


this coach sucks

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:09 AM ET
the hate he gets, kane and lehner is insane


yeah I busted on lehner for injuries, but when he is between the pipes, he holds his own

- homiedclown

He should keep his hands away from his Jock while playing the game .
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