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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:04 PM ET
Is that how it's used? I use it as what it says as a question mark. Like in wonderment or curious to garner discussion. Sheesh writing and emojis can be a bad cocktail.
- Nuck4U

I breaking balls today.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:08 PM ET
I know fair enough. Maybe I should have just said take exempt player JV out and add exposed forward Hansen/Granlund so losing a top 6 for nothing isn't an issue for Nucks.
- Nuck4U

Granlund and Tanev get you Schenn and Sanhiem?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 14 @ 7:11 PM ET
In 2009- 2010 season their production remained the same and spiked in the following year 2011. Since signing that contract their production dropped at least 25% approximately except in the year 2011 and 2014

I am not sure if giving raises for less does not seem like a discount

- VANTEL



2014 was when they signed this current contract. What the measure on value was at the time. Can you say to star players take less then your prior contract? That $900K more is too much?

I get your point about now and next season perhaps. It's not a discount now.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:14 PM ET
2014 was when they signed this current contract. What the measure on value was at the time. Can you say to star players take less then your prior contract? That $900K more is too much?

I get your point about now and next season perhaps. It's not a discount now.

- Nuck4U



If it was one contract less would be said . The fact is it is a 14 mil contract . Can't split them that is where I have always had a problem .

Anyways Nighthawk did make a good point you cant change it so I need to suck it up. My only point in all of this is I don't think it is a discount.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:16 PM ET
2014 was when they signed this current contract. What the measure on value was at the time. Can you say to star players take less then your prior contract? That $900K more is too much?

I get your point about now and next season perhaps. It's not a discount now.

- Nuck4U

Personally I think the contract was fair at the time and still do. The fact remains they are on the decline so the contract is viewed as over priced. Once they are gone this team can truly change. I don't see it as big a problem as others do.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 14 @ 7:18 PM ET
Since their signing in 2009 their production has dropped every year except 2011 and was the same 2010 . It is not a discount
- VANTEL

That's not true but Gillis should've let them walk after their last deals were up in 2013/14.

They were turning 33 and obviously in decline, easy to say now I guess.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:19 PM ET
If it was one contract less would be said . The fact is it is a 14 mil contract . Can't split them that is where I have always had a problem .

Anyways Nighthawk did make a good point you cant change it so I need to suck it up. My only point in all of this is I don't think it is a discount.

- VANTEL

Somebody would take them both pushing for a cup but they wouldn't go and I wouldn't ask them to.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 14 @ 7:19 PM ET
Granlund and Tanev get you Schenn and Sanhiem?
- thundachunk



I don't know guess it's all about perspective. Depends on if you view Tanev as a top two. Plus Granlund a young 20 goal scorer in the making who plays both center and wing. Neither are equal to one or the other but balance out value and need in package.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:21 PM ET
Somebody would take them both pushing for a cup but they wouldn't go and I wouldn't ask them to.
- thundachunk


If you were a GM would you?

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
If you were a GM would you?
- VANTEL

I would have 2 years ago. Now I let them play it out.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
Granlund and Tanev get you Schenn and Sanhiem?
- thundachunk


Luke Schenn ?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 14 @ 7:22 PM ET
Somebody would take them both pushing for a cup but they wouldn't go and I wouldn't ask them to.
- thundachunk

I would, this is a business, at the very least have a conversation with them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 7:23 PM ET
Since their signing in 2009 their production has dropped every year except 2011 and was the same 2010 . It is not a discount
- VANTEL


Its not this regimes contract. Take it up with MG.
I don't see 29 other non cup winners void of similar contracts.
Circle back & we can chat more.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 14 @ 7:23 PM ET
Glad to see Sherman having a good game
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:24 PM ET
I would, this is a business, at the very least have a conversation with them.
- LeftCoaster

I would have the conversation. I wouldnt push it and wait for them to approach it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:24 PM ET
I would have 2 years ago. Now I let them play it out.
- thundachunk


Canucks can still try to salvage something but you need to split them up for the rest of the contract. Everyone knows where to go when they play together. They always look to each other for first options , they need to have that taken away from them.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:25 PM ET
Luke Schenn ?
- Redmile247

Braydon.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 14 @ 7:25 PM ET
Goodnight Seahawks. Horrible game. Falcons offense on the other hand could be enough to take them deep.

Ryan is the MVP. (frank) Brady.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 7:25 PM ET
FYI i was never a MG fan. Its who i blame for our current situation.
FA incuded. Now we r digging out from those times & its getting better.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:26 PM ET
Its not this regimes contract. Take it up with MG.
I don't see 29 other non cup winners void of similar contracts.
Circle back & we can chat more.

- Nighthawk



Why would I care what 29 other teams problems are? Unless I can bug Redmile I don't care
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 14 @ 7:26 PM ET
Goodnight Seahawks. Horrible game. Falcons offense on the other hand could be enough to take them deep.

Ryan is the MVP. (frank) Brady.

- vancity787


I predicted 28-13 Falcons...oops lol
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
FYI i was never a MG fan. Its who i blame for our current situation.
FA incuded. Now we r digging out from those times & its getting better.

- Nighthawk
He was gifted a ringer and added the right pieces.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
I always enjoy talking on here. Going out at five for dinner. Yes the early bird special for old timers

I am not getting angry at all just talking

- VANTEL



Awesome. It stimulates the brain and stomach too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:28 PM ET
FYI i was never a MG fan. Its who i blame for our current situation.
FA incuded. Now we r digging out from those times & its getting better.

- Nighthawk


He was an all in it for now guy. I agree in the long run he did more harm
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 14 @ 7:29 PM ET
Ass kicking 101
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