Nice
- sbroads24

The drawback of living in the centre of the hockey universe. Him and Tom Wilson

Most of the other pros have been pretty good though.

I got laughed at for wanting Phanuef
- homiedclown

they're both awful but as SB pointed out at least phaneuf can put up some points

i do not approve this..
- IndianaSabresFan

Thought of your avatar soon as i saw that

I got laughed at for wanting Phanuef
- homiedclown

5 on 5 points

Phanuef 7
Ristolainen 8

(frank) yeah.
- mhp

That was my initial reaction but thats an awful contract coming back the other way too.

Id rather take a hit in value and just move the cap hit out.

5 on 5 points

Phanuef 7
Ristolainen 8
- sbroads24

On that note


Gorton has got to be a GM of the year candidate. The work he did with the cap, young players coming in without a 1st rounder and managing to find nick (frank)ing holden who's something like top 5 for D in 5v5 pts and primary assists.

That was my initial reaction but thats an awful contract coming back the other way too.

Id rather take a hit in value and just move the cap hit out.
- Sabresfan-365

They both have awful contracts. Bogo's ends in 2020 and Ryan in 2022. I dunno I might roll the dice and do it. I'll take Ryan's offense at his cap hit over Bogo's bar league senior B play on D.

On that note


Gorton has got to be a GM of the year candidate. The work he did with the cap, young players coming in without a 1st rounder and managing to find nick (frank)ing holden who's something like top 5 for D in 5v5 pts and primary assists.
- Sabresfan-365

Agree, however they are getting beat a decent amount lately and that high shooting % they had is coming crashing down to earth

Agree, however they are getting beat a decent amount lately and that high shooting % they had is coming crashing down to earth
- sbroads24

Yea, this is normally where you'd bet on your 8.5 million dollar goaltender to cover that fall.

Im not sure what they can do if he doesnt get back to normal (which i guess would be super elite or something lol)

They both have awful contracts. Bogo's ends in 2020 and Ryan in 2022. I dunno I might roll the dice and do it. I'll take Ryan's offense at his cap hit over Bogo's bar league senior B play on D.
- mhp

if you moved kane and moulson out Id consider it. Thats not a knock on kane im just thinking in terms of salary dedicated up front. if you find a way to move 10+ mil out without taking too much back its worth considering.

But I would take advantage of the fact that Bogo doesnt have his no trade anymore and see if you can either convince someone with the open expansion protection spots to take him (new jersey?) or give vegas some assets so that they take him.

They both have awful contracts. Bogo's ends in 2020 and Ryan in 2022. I dunno I might roll the dice and do it. I'll take Ryan's offense at his cap hit over Bogo's bar league senior B play on D.
- mhp

ryan would be our next moulson contract in a few years IMO

if you moved kane and moulson out Id consider it. Thats not a knock on kane im just thinking in terms of salary dedicated up front. if you find a way to move 10+ mil out without taking too much back its worth considering.

But I would take advantage of the fact that Bogo doesnt have his no trade anymore and see if you can either convince someone with the open expansion protection spots to take him (new jersey?) or give vegas some assets so that they take him.
- Sabresfan-365

I still have no clue who this team is getting that will be a huge upgrade in the top 4 without moving a key piece.

I still have no clue who this team is getting that will be a huge upgrade in the top 4 without moving a key piece.
- sbroads24

Ive narrowed it down to 3

Orlov, Shattenkirk, Faulk


Cap crunch, FA(long shot i know) and I think the emergence of Slavin, Pesce and all their other picks like bean and fleury will make Faulk trade bait. If our draft pick is high enough it might work as the centre piece.

Failing that you have to be prepared to move he who beats people up with his mind.

if you moved kane and moulson out Id consider it. Thats not a knock on kane im just thinking in terms of salary dedicated up front. if you find a way to move 10+ mil out without taking too much back its worth considering.

But I would take advantage of the fact that Bogo doesnt have his no trade anymore and see if you can either convince someone with the open expansion protection spots to take him (new jersey?) or give vegas some assets so that they take him.
- Sabresfan-365

Gotcha. I was looking at each teams roster the other day for the expansion draft and potential protected players and there weren't many teams that had open slots for someone like Bogo. NJ, Arizona, Philly were the only ones I saw.

Moving out Kane and Moulson's contracts will happen at some point, although with Kane's improved play and squeaky clean life style I could see Murray not moving him.

Ive narrowed it down to 3

Orlov, Shattenkirk, Faulk


Cap crunch, FA(long shot i know) and I think the emergence of Slavin, Pesce and all their other picks like bean and fleury will make Faulk trade bait. If our draft pick is high enough it might work as the centre piece.

Failing that you have to be prepared to move he who beats people up with his mind.
- Sabresfan-365

We could probably use Colin White +

Oh... wait

ryan would be our next moulson contract in a few years IMO
- homiedclown

But if Ryan put up 50+ points playing with Eichel and Reinhart, is it really though? We need help on the wings and he would help the PP as well. Just a thought.

Ive narrowed it down to 3

Orlov, Shattenkirk, Faulk


Cap crunch, FA(long shot i know) and I think the emergence of Slavin, Pesce and all their other picks like bean and fleury will make Faulk trade bait. If our draft pick is high enough it might work as the centre piece.

Failing that you have to be prepared to move he who beats people up with his mind.
- Sabresfan-365

Orlov would be our best bet.

edit- what about Stone?

We could probably use Colin White +

Oh... wait
- sbroads24

Thats okay we could just build a package around Roslovic and Debrincat

oh wait


In case you're wondering...Debrincat?-->Gorges. Yeah

Would you:

Evander Kane for Bobby Ryan

Around a Million difference in contract to take on....
- Irish 14

All day long, and I am not a Bobby Ryan fan. Kane is now starting to score but his overall game is not great. He kills the team every night in different areas (sloppy play, bad penalties, etc)

Thats okay we could just build a package around Roslovic and Debrincat

oh wait


In case you're wondering...Debrincat?-->Gorges. Yeah
- Sabresfan-365

We should be able to get a good 4/5 D + a few picks for Fasching, right?

Orlov would be our best bet.

edit- what about Stone?
- mhp

Picked Orlov last week HBSL . Got me 18pts

But if Ryan put up 50+ points playing with Eichel and Reinhart, is it really though? We need help on the wings and he would help the PP as well. Just a thought.
- mhp

he is on pace for 32 points this year with karlsson as the d man

guys like hoffman, stone, turris etc up front

I will admit I don't watch the sens so I am not sure his game speed but I do know he is a fraction of the player, productive wise, than he was with the ducks and only 29 years old right now

I think a kane/ryan swap we

A. give the sens the better player
B. give the sens better cap situation
C. F@ck the Sens

he is on pace for 32 points this year with karlsson as the d man

guys like hoffman, stone, turris etc up front

I will admit I don't watch the sens so I am not sure his game speed but I do know he is a fraction of the player, productive wise, than he was with the ducks and only 29 years old right now

I think a kane/ryan swap we

A. give the sens the better player
B. give the sens better cap situation
C. F@ck the Sens
- homiedclown

I like "C" Twice

Picked Orlov last week HBSL . Got me 18pts
- cabin

Parayko

We should be able to get a good 4/5 D + a few picks for Fasching, right?
- sbroads24

a mcnabb type d man and 2 second rd picks