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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
Worst 4th line in the league, they contribute nothing other than resting the first three lines .
- LeftCoaster



Even with an upbeat 4 th line the pace for the rest of the team is that of an eighty year old maharishi .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
Oshie would be the harder of the two to attract but I would go after Boyle for sure . Our fourth line is
- VANTEL


Idk if we r in the UFA market next season.
The expansion draft will make for fun & who we juggle.
Will it be the TDL or offseason its hard to say but 1 player i expect moved soon.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
Idk if we r in the UFA market next season.
The expansion draft will make for fun & who we juggle.
Will it be the TDL or offseason its hard to say but 1 player i expect moved soon.

- Nighthawk



Strange year
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
Even with an upbeat 4 th line the pace for the rest of the team is that of an eighty year old maharishi .
- VANTEL

Well, you've gotta walk before you run, at least be hard to play against while you're building the forward group.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:48 PM ET
Well, you've gotta walk before you run, at least be hard to play against while you're building the forward group.
- LeftCoaster



I agree . A solid 4 th line can help the energy of the team.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 6:49 PM ET
I think you could get something for Burrows.
He is having a good bounce back year, plays up and down the lineup, can score, can agitate, can play PK.

Mtl is the obvious choice, you know Burrows would play his heart out there.
Mtl has 3 2nd rounders next year.

Burrows, 4th rounder to Mtl for 2nd rounder (via Wsh).

- dbot

Many in here think Burrows nets a return. I don't. I don't think good teams want a bad teams 3rd liners. Hope you are right
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
Many in here think Burrows nets a return. I don't. I don't think good teams want a bad teams 3rd liners. Hope you are right
- CanuckDon



I keep hearing the media saying he has value. Not aimed at you but in here we overvalue or undervalue all the time so I am at a wait and see. If you are not going to get a third round pick then let him play out his final two months as a Cauncuk under one team for his whole career.

If you can get the third then nice knowing you Mr Burrows
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 16 @ 6:53 PM ET
Idk if we r in the UFA market next season.
The expansion draft will make for fun & who we juggle.
Will it be the TDL or offseason its hard to say but 1 player i expect moved soon.

- Nighthawk


I haven't been looking at what players other teams will be exposing, but it has me wondering if there is an upgrade available on who we would protect vs. player another team would be exposing ? maybe add a pick and swap players?

I'm looking forward to tdl and the summer.

I'm also wondering if there will be trades during the expansion draft? It would be an interesting twist if teams adjusted who they are exposing after LV makes picks.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 6:55 PM ET
I keep hearing the media saying he has value. Not aimed at you but in here we overvalue or undervalue all the time so I am at a wait and see. If you are not going to get a third round pick then let him play out his final two months as a Cauncuk under one team for his whole career.

If you can get the third then nice knowing you Mr Burrows

- VANTEL

I have never heard anybody under value one of our assets on here when it comes to trades. Our players suck until we include them in a trade package and they become stars. Baffling and hilarious
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:58 PM ET
I have never heard anybody under value one of our assets on here when it comes to trades. Our players suck until we include them in a trade package and they become stars. Baffling and hilarious
- CanuckDon



Aaron freakin Rome . Stud extraordinaire .
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:00 PM ET
Honestly there are many combinations of trade possibilities. It is of course better to get something back rather than let someone walk for nothing.

There should really only be two untouchables on the team IMO , Bo and Tryamkin. If you can get an upgrade for a player or an asset by making a move then you do it.

Example . If a team is interested in Granlund and not Hansen then you look at the return and see if you can work something out.

Sven Granlund Sbisa are all B type players , the big thing to remember is to get value .

It is possible no or few deals get done but at least try.

- VANTEL


I hear you on opportunity and untouchables. That's the issue for a sell at TDL under Vegas expansion. It's not a player upgrade but a cash out and dump. Hope is you get back possible potential future player in a pick. A prospect return would need a long established player on a sale. For example, Flames did that with taking two 2nds for Sven and Granlund. Now many saying how good those deals were for Nucks. Both seem to be young 20 goal scorers.

Don't know if by alluding they are low value players that turns them into making Nucks buyers? Is there a trade partner fit and player upgrade they can afford to spend on?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:00 PM ET
Aaron freakin Rome . Stud extraordinaire .
- VANTEL


Everyone wanted to buyout Burrows a few months ago and now he is an integral part of Montreals playoff run? Sure that makes sense. He doesn't impress me. Columbus's 2nd is a whole nother story
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 16 @ 7:00 PM ET
I have never heard anybody under value one of our assets on here when it comes to trades. Our players suck until we include them in a trade package and they become stars. Baffling and hilarious
- CanuckDon

Corrado
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:02 PM ET
Corrado
- A_SteamingLombardi

The one that got away
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
Everyone wanted to buyout Burrows a few months ago and now he is an integral part of Montreals playoff run? Sure that makes sense. He doesn't impress me. Columbus's 2nd is a whole nother story
- CanuckDon



Burrows has beyond sucked for the last two years. This year is a decent (not great ) year .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
Strange year
- VANTEL


Awkward even lol
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
Worst 4th line in the league, they contribute nothing other than resting the first three lines. They don't fight, they don't hit, they don't score, they just waste fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
- LeftCoaster



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Well, you've gotta walk before you run, at least be hard to play against while you're building the forward group.
- LeftCoaster


I agree with this & believe thats what we r doing atm
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:10 PM ET
Burrows has beyond sucked for the last two years. This year is a decent (not great ) year .
- VANTEL

Agreed. He has been fine. I don't get the praise he is receiving
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 7:11 PM ET
Many in here think Burrows nets a return. I don't. I don't think good teams want a bad teams 3rd liners. Hope you are right
- CanuckDon


That makes no sense. Players values r based on their individual skills & attributes.
Saying 1 player represents a teams success or failure doesn't cut it.
Other than say a Price. Goalies can make or break teams.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
Agreed. He has been fine. I don't get the praise he is receiving
- CanuckDon



Free agent does not need to be protected . Agitator with lots of playoff experience and can score big goals . Strictly a rental.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
That makes no sense. Players values r based on their individual skills & attributes.
Saying 1 player represents a teams success or failure doesn't cut it.
Other than say a Price. Goalies can make or break teams.

- Nighthawk

I don't follow your logic
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 7:14 PM ET
I hear you on opportunity and untouchables. That's the issue for a sell at TDL under Vegas expansion. It's not a player upgrade but a cash out and dump. Hope is you get back possible potential future player in a pick. A prospect return would need a long established player on a sale. For example, Flames did that with taking two 2nds for Sven and Granlund. Now many saying how good those deals were for Nucks. Both seem to be young 20 goal scorers.

Don't know if by alluding they are low value players that turns them into making Nucks buyers? Is there a trade partner fit and player upgrade they can afford to spend on?

- Nuck4U



We did well on both those trades to the point 1 will prolly be exposed.
Double edge sword its turned out to be barring a trade.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 7:17 PM ET
I don't follow your logic
- CanuckDon


Nor did i yours lol
Burrows has been an integral part on BO's line.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:24 PM ET
I haven't been looking at what players other teams will be exposing, but it has me wondering if there is an upgrade available on who we would protect vs. player another team would be exposing ? maybe add a pick and swap players?

I'm looking forward to tdl and the summer.

I'm also wondering if there will be trades during the expansion draft? It would be an interesting twist if teams adjusted who they are exposing after LV makes picks.

- hillbillydeluxe


I don't think it can work that way. The protection list locks in for draft. Once pick declared Vegas has rights. Trades will happen after expansion draft though. Interesting idea on player upgrade. Like if Sven plus Hutton for Duchene is an upgrade?
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