Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Id be cool with Foote, depending on where we pick. We have lots of Dmen but lack any with top pairing potential a few years from now other than Tanev. OJ is not looking that great at this point, maybe just tired from a long season last year. Even so we lack a true offensive game changing Dman like a doughty, hedman, karlsson etc.
Im hoping for a Center or a true offensive Dman in the 1st round. After that id like all forwards unless something really seems to be a steal. - mauryballstein
He looks great. He is improving on his numbers from last year with a less talented team, was amazing in WJC with nobody near his level to play with. The kid is looking great. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Could we be revisting the 82 canucks this year? they weren't very good talent wise but they played as a team and miller has the capabilities to get hot. - Bettmanhatesus
Thats a very good comparison๐
Fascination with stars is todays fixation.
A total team effort goes a long ways.
'82 was a classic example |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Thinkin on the '82 Canucks run...
Who comes to mind that led the team?
Was it the collective character?
Brodeur?
Or what combination of the above?
Would it or can it apply to todays NHL? |
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There are only 2 defenseman that interest me in our projected area of selection in the 1st round. Foote.& Hague are both solid 2 way defenseman that can be top 2. Not interested in a defenseman that is only offense.(Liljegren)
Stecher & Hutton are stop gap measures (imo), so adding another top end prospect will give.us 4 in the system, not including any on current roster.(Juolevi,Brisebois & Neill).
With all the holes to fill in the cupboards I be thinking this draft will focus mostly on forwards & future drafts will get spread out amongst all positions, a goalie pick this year or next will not surprise me either. |
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Thinkin on the '82 Canucks run...
Who comes to mind that led the team?
Was it the collective character?
Brodeur?
Or what combination of the above?
Would it or can it apply to todays NHL? - Nighthawk
We just need WD to get suspended for 10 games at the end of the season. |
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Lefty? - CanuckDon
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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We just need WD to get suspended for 10 games at the end of the season. - A_SteamingLombardi
Well thats a novel approach we could use again ๐๐๐ |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Thinkin on the '82 Canucks run...
Who comes to mind that led the team?
Was it the collective character?
Brodeur?
Or what combination of the above?
Would it or can it apply to todays NHL? - Nighthawk
Goaltending, including Brodeur, was appalling and so scoring was much easier to come by. Players were smaller and slower, and so had more space to do their thing.
Smyl/Gradin was a devastating combo of forwards in their prime (something we don't have any of at forward, let alone two of). |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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There are only 2 defenseman that interest me in our projected area of selection in the 1st round. Foote.& Hague are both solid 2 way defenseman that can be top 2. Not interested in a defenseman that is only offense.(Liljegren)
Stecher & Hutton are stop gap measures (imo), so adding another top end prospect will give.us 4 in the system, not including any on current roster.(Juolevi,Brisebois & Neill).
With all the holes to fill in the cupboards I be thinking this draft will focus mostly on forwards & future drafts will get spread out amongst all positions, a goalie pick this year or next will not surprise me either. - Reubenkincade
C & LW r our biggest holes in the system atm.
D we can never have enough of.
BPA in where we r projected is my guess. |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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-Regarding Colorado, Friedman believes asking price for Duchene/Landeskog is a high end young D, OR a promising young goalie for the future
The only young(ish) high end D we have is Tanev with some D that could possibly be high(er) end. Guess we aren't getting either. Though if they are rebuilding Hutton+ for Landeskog would be a good start. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Goaltending, including Brodeur, was appalling and so scoring was much easier to come by. Players were smaller and slower, and so had more space to do their thing.
Smyl/Gradin was a devastating combo of forwards in their prime (something we don't have any of at forward, let alone two of). - neem55
To counter that equipment was much different then.
Todays Players using old school ash sticks would suck nowadays for example.
Luv to see who would be Bobby Hulls equal.
The michelin man goalie of today would suck back then too.
Comparing eras is not my thing but using what has changed matters. |
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I get what Golfing is saying about you cant build a team on D and even more about don't rely on Jim for trades.
I say this is the year to stick with D. There are no real high end forwards out of the top 3 . There are good forwards but not high end.
I do think before the start of next year Canucks will have traded a high end Dman.
Selecting a Dman with the top pick will let you fully concentrate on forwards for the next 2-3 drafts.
It would give the D a head start as Bo Boeser hopefully Lockwood develop. Canucks really need a guy who can blast the puck from the back end. Our biggest weakness in my opinion is the PP so having a guy back there will take some of the pressure off the forwards.
Tree has looked very impressive but like ASL said he doesn't have meanness yet. That could come but players are bouncing off him so I am sure his cnnfidence will keep growing. I am very impressed with his rushes and now he is learning how to shoot. |
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Goaltending, including Brodeur, was appalling and so scoring was much easier to come by. Players were smaller and slower, and so had more space to do their thing.
Smyl/Gradin was a devastating combo of forwards in their prime (something we don't have any of at forward, let alone two of). - neem55
gradin wasn't there yet. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I get what Golfing is saying about you cant build a team on D and even more about don't rely on Jim for trades.
I say this is the year to stick with D. There are no real high end forwards out of the top 3 . There are good forwards but not high end.
I do think before the start of next year Canucks will have traded a high end Dman.
Selecting a Dman with the top pick will let you fully concentrate on forwards for the next 2-3 drafts.
It would give the D a head start as Bo Boeser hopefully Lockwood develop. Canucks really need a guy who can blast the puck from the back end. Our biggest weakness in my opinion is the PP so having a guy back there will take some of the pressure off the forwards.
Tree has looked very impressive but like ASL said he doesn't have meanness yet. That could come but players are bouncing off him so I am sure his cnnfidence will keep growing. I am very impressed with his rushes and now he is learning how to shoot. - VANTEL
I like that comprehensive analysis๐
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Only Nuck4U cares about him - CanuckDon
My care at this point is for the Canucks improving their talent and scoring. Anyone that can do that should be looked at or brought in when possible. I would wager many if not all would say that. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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gradin wasn't there yet. - Bettmanhatesus
He sure was lol |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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My care at this point is for the Canucks improving their talent and scoring. Anyone that can do that should be looked at or brought in when possible. I would wager many if not all would say that. - Nuck4U
Agree about scoring but we won't be in a position to get it this draft IMO.
Trade route or we suck it up & stay the course. |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I get what Golfing is saying about you cant build a team on D and even more about don't rely on Jim for trades.
I say this is the year to stick with D. There are no real high end forwards out of the top 3 . There are good forwards but not high end.
I do think before the start of next year Canucks will have traded a high end Dman.
Selecting a Dman with the top pick will let you fully concentrate on forwards for the next 2-3 drafts.
It would give the D a head start as Bo Boeser hopefully Lockwood develop. Canucks really need a guy who can blast the puck from the back end. Our biggest weakness in my opinion is the PP so having a guy back there will take some of the pressure off the forwards.
Tree has looked very impressive but like ASL said he doesn't have meanness yet. That could come but players are bouncing off him so I am sure his cnnfidence will keep growing. I am very impressed with his rushes and now he is learning how to shoot. - VANTEL
Agreed that Tree has been very impressive so far.
Although i think it's possible he develops skills further (shooting, puck rushing, even checking), i don't think something like meanness can be developed.
It just doesn't seem part of his makeup.
And that's just fine with me.
He can be our BFG.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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๐๐๐๐๐๐What a steal......
In '82 we drafted TAYLOR HALL 116OA
what foresight that turned out to be๐ |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Agreed that Tree has been very impressive so far.
Although i think it's possible he develops skills further (shooting, puck rushing, even checking), i don't think something like meanness can be developed.
It just doesn't seem part of his makeup.
And that's just fine with me.
He can be our BFG. - dbot
I agree MEANNESS is not a teachable quality.
IMPOSING is though and how i would word it.
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Agreed that Tree has been very impressive so far.
Although i think it's possible he develops skills further (shooting, puck rushing, even checking), i don't think something like meanness can be developed.
It just doesn't seem part of his makeup.
And that's just fine with me.
He can be our BFG. - dbot
I don't agree . Last year when he was challenged he was afraid .He was 21 . I think it was McLeod last year and Tree looked like a dear in headlights. Last night they collided again and Tryamkin did not back off or look afraid.
When Chara first came to the league he was not noted for fighting. He grew into it. I think after so many games a player gets tired of bumping and will stand up for himself.
I can see him in two years sticking up for his goalie or his D partner. |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I don't agree . Last year when he was challenged he was afraid .He was 21 . I think it was McLeod last year and Tree looked like a dear in headlights. Last night they collided again and Tryamkin did not back off or look afraid.
When Chara first came to the league he was not noted for fighting. He grew into it. I think after so many games a player gets tired of bumping and will stand up for himself.
I can see him in two years sticking up for his goalie or his D partner. - VANTEL
i don't equate strength/courage with meanness though.
I expect him to throw his weight around more and stand up for teammates and even fight on occasion...but i don't think he'll have the meanstreak that Pronger had, ie heaps of PIMs, stomping on ankles, being a nasty and borderline dirty player |
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I don't agree . Last year when he was challenged he was afraid .He was 21 . I think it was McLeod last year and Tree looked like a dear in headlights. Last night they collided again and Tryamkin did not back off or look afraid.
When Chara first came to the league he was not noted for fighting. He grew into it. I think after so many games a player gets tired of bumping and will stand up for himself.
I can see him in two years sticking up for his goalie or his D partner. - VANTEL
Guy got absolutely crushed by ferklund and came back to finish the game ...he's a warrior in my books ...tough as they come |
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Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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There are only 2 defenseman that interest me in our projected area of selection in the 1st round. Foote.& Hague are both solid 2 way defenseman that can be top 2. Not interested in a defenseman that is only offense.(Liljegren)
Stecher & Hutton are stop gap measures (imo), so adding another top end prospect will give.us 4 in the system, not including any on current roster.(Juolevi,Brisebois & Neill).
With all the holes to fill in the cupboards I be thinking this draft will focus mostly on forwards & future drafts will get spread out amongst all positions, a goalie pick this year or next will not surprise me either. - Reubenkincade
Are you saying Hutton and Stetcher are only stop gaps until Brisebois and Neill eventually take their place? |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Guy got absolutely crushed by ferklund and came back to finish the game ...he's a warrior in my books ...tough as they come - Redmile247
No one is questioning his strength/toughness. |
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