I was reading an article today talking about Luongos contract, if he retires early, does the penalty come out of the cap space? like if he retired one year early would we need to free up 8mill? or just out of owners pockets?
- phyllee

I think i remember one of the analysts saying that the actual cap hit was like a little over 3 million a year, but i might be wrong

When we played TO I couldn't help laughing when I heard Hyman
- NorthNuck

it's a dangerous play when chaput rips apart hyman.

When we played TO I couldn't help laughing when I heard Hyman
- NorthNuck

Oh man that one gets me too! Good to know im not alone.

I really want to see Hansen traded. He's been one of my favourites for a long time but we need to move him at his highest value.
- golfingsince

Highest value? An injury plagued season with minimal results? I would be cool with moving him for a 2nd. Teams would be hesitant to trade much as they may lose him in the expansion draft. My point being his remaining term won't hold value

I was reading an article today talking about Luongos contract, if he retires early, does the penalty come out of the cap space? like if he retired one year early would we need to free up 8mill? or just out of owners pockets?
- phyllee

Cap space but it isn't 8 million all at once. I can't remember exactly how it works.

You were gone for awhile. I knew you were doing some research
He doesn't play with Bo and he clearly doesn't work with the Sedins. So I wouldn't say he plays with quality players that often. I don't know why he is on the PP. He doesn't belong there

Edit. Why has Golfing turned this thread into a Sutter debate. Who cares. He is a 3rd line center
- CanuckDon

you forgot the word "elite."

I see the plan to, build up the prospect pool starting from the goalie out. Benning wants a killer d first and foremost with great goaltending, forwards will be his last priority.
- Bettmanhatesus

Right.

When he first assessed the roster, he saw a need to get some youth in the lineup and traded some draft picks/prospects to make that happen.
Some worked out (SVen Granlund), some didn't (Clendenning, Vey).

People seem to think that he will perpetually trade youth in an attempt to unearth further gems, but i don't.

I think he's really really clear with what he does and what he plans to do, but some look to read between the lines and search for clues that aren't there.

He has stated what he intends to do this year and until he says otherwise (if the situation changes drastically between now and TDL), i assume that's what we will do.

Oh man that one gets me too! Good to know im not alone.
- Crazybagoham

I tell my son not to laugh at the names of people, like who really gets to pick their name unless you are Prince or Puffy or other entertainment star.

but, I still laugh.

you forgot the word "elite."
- RealityChecker

Fine..."above average"

S U T T E R

it's a dangerous play when chaput rips apart hyman.
- RealityChecker

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I was reading an article today talking about Luongos contract, if he retires early, does the penalty come out of the cap space? like if he retired one year early would we need to free up 8mill? or just out of owners pockets?
- phyllee

yes

The boss walked in too.....

They funny thing is I quite like Sutter and was happy with swapping him over Bonino from day one. His contract on the other hand not as much but it isn't that big of a deal. I just think this board, not just you in particular, look at things in a vacuum.
- belcherbd

i didn't mind the trade and saw the logic in it.

however, it isn't being a drama queen to criticize benning for the contract especially without sutter playing a game for the team before it was finalized.

it doesn't have to be totally one way or the other.

I really want to see Hansen traded. He's been one of my favourites for a long time but we need to move him at his highest value.
- golfingsince

I'm on the fence with him but absolutely if they can get a decent return.

I think they should also be considering moving Sbisa and Sutter not because they are bad player but because they have value and likely aren't critical pieces of the core moving forward.

Highest value? An injury plagued season with minimal results? I would be cool with moving him for a 2nd. Teams would be hesitant to trade much as they may lose him in the expansion draft. My point being his remaining term won't hold value
- CanuckDon

If he comes back healthy there will be time to move him where he's still cost controlled for another season, hence highest value.

If he comes back healthy there will be time to move him where he's still cost controlled for another season, hence highest value.
- golfingsince

My point is other teams won't care that he is cost controlled. Take any contenders roster. Do they protect Hansen over there own? Not likely. He would be a pure rental

i didn't mind the trade and saw the logic in it.

however, it isn't being a drama queen to criticize benning for the contract especially without sutter playing a game for the team before it was finalized.

it doesn't have to be totally one way or the other.
- RealityChecker

It's a coping mechanism, I just picture the poster with their thumb in their mouth when I hear "drama queen", "sky is falling", "biopolar" etc.

It's a coping mechanism, I just picture the poster with their thumb in their mouth when I hear "drama queen", "sky is falling", "biopolar" etc.
- belcherbd

what about Lemmings and circle jerkers?

I tell my son not to laugh at the names of people, like who really gets to pick their name unless you are Prince or Puffy or other entertainment star.

but, I still laugh.
- hillbillydeluxe

There's a dude I remember my parents knowing when I was young whose last name D!ck. Why someone with that last name would name their kid Harry I'll never know

I'm on the fence with him but absolutely if they can get a decent return.

I think they should also be considering moving Sbisa and Sutter not because they are bad player but because they have value and likely aren't critical pieces of the core moving forward.
- belcherbd

I'm on the fence as well.

I think it's time to move him (has value, younger players can/should fill his role, protect Granlund/SVen), but he seems to be integral to the Sedin's success, is a great mentor and could possibly get more value in off season.

It's a coping mechanism, I just picture the poster with their thumb in their mouth when I hear "drama queen", "sky is falling", "biopolar" etc.
- belcherbd

It's the internet. the extreme position. one way or another.

no fence sitting allowed.

internet fight to the death.

I'm on the fence as well.

I think it's time to move him (has value, younger players can/should fill his role, protect Granlund/SVen), but he seems to be integral to the Sedin's success, is a great mentor and could possibly get more value in off season.
- dbot

Granlund is starting to play very similar to Hansen I've noticed, really pesky on the forecheck. I would only want to see Hansen go if the return is worth it, same with Burrows and I dont see a team putting a huge package together for either

I'm on the fence as well.

I think it's time to move him (has value, younger players can/should fill his role, protect Granlund/SVen), but he seems to be integral to the Sedin's success, is a great mentor and could possibly get more value in off season.
- dbot

what about Lemmings and circle jerkers?
- CanuckDon

once the jerk is complete, they all jump off the georgia viaduct?

It's the internet. the extreme position. one way or another.

no fence sitting allowed.

internet fight to the death.
- hillbillydeluxe

The Lemmings are winning

...although mainly due to sheer volume