He seemed a little douchy but who would you rather have in the lineup today?

Chaput, Smegma or McCann?

or maybe it doesn't really matter if they are all stop gaps?
- hillbillydeluxe

I'd rather have Gudbranson than McCann and Asplund , not sure if other comparisons are relevant as that's the players that were exchanged.

He seemed a little douchy but who would you rather have in the lineup today?

Chaput, Smegma or McCann?

or maybe it doesn't really matter if they are all stop gaps?
- hillbillydeluxe

Gudbranson.

See there you go saying they'll become something they aren't again.
- golfingsince

You don't think Sutter is a good 3rd line center?

It's no more bold than saying Sutter or EG will become something more than they are now, considering he's 5 years younger than one and 7 younger than the other?
- golfingsince

Except that both Sutter and EG have established themselves as guys that can consistently play at an NHL level, whereas McCann may or may not play in the NHL. I don't disagree that he could turn out very good, but he has much further to go and is much more likely to fail for that reason than established players in their mid-20's. If I had to choose 10 players under 25 on florida, McCann wouldn't be on the list.

Gudbranson.
- dbot

Some folks don't like big mean hockey players. Let's fill our roster out with some more undersized muffins and see how we fair in the playoffs. Ferland beat us by himself in the playoffs

Except that both Sutter and EG have established themselves as guys that can consistently play at an NHL level, whereas McCann may or may not play in the NHL. I don't disagree that he could turn out very good, but he has much further to go and is much more likely to fail for that reason than established players in their mid-20's. If I had to choose 10 players under 25 on florida, McCann wouldn't be on the list.
- neem55

Do I prefer a high end 3rd line center or a No 4 dman? Ummm. I guess I would choose EG.
- CanuckDon

I think what he's asking you is do you prefer a 4.375 mil 3rd line centre or a potential 5+ mil #4 Dman.

Some folks don't like big mean hockey players. Let's fill our roster out with some more undersized muffins and see how we fair in the playoffs. Ferland beat us by himself in the playoffs
- CanuckDon

While others believe that since we have the BFG Tryamkin, we are set on D and Guds is expendable.

I think what he's asking you is do you prefer a 4.375 mil 3rd line centre or a potential 5+ mil #4 Dman.
- A_SteamingLombardi

i like em both.

If i had to choose, for this current lineup, i would say Guds has more value.

You know, I'm getting sick and tired of your positive attitude little man
- LeftCoaster

Well if guddy could play tonight I'd say he's a -3 and McCann with the hat trick ....but alas no such luck

You don't think Sutter is a good 3rd line center?
- CanuckDon

He's 79th among C in PPG, I wouldn't call that elite.

Gudbranson.
- dbot

okay.

I know JB has said he is happy with Guddy, but I wonder if he would honestly have made that trade if he had known how well Tryamkin would play this year?

I keep thinking back on when MG traded for Ballard and then ended up signing Hamhuis. would MG have not made that trade if he had known he'd be able to sign Hamhuis?

ah feck it, whats done is done.
on me.

maybe I should just be happy that our gm identified a problem and addressed it.

I'd rather have Gudbranson than McCann and Asplund , not sure if other comparisons are relevant as that's the players that were exchanged.
- neem55

to me this goes back to the burn it to the ground vs try to compete now discussion.

i wasn't adamantly opposed to the trade and thought it filled a big need the nucks have had for a while.

however, from a philosophical approach to a rebuild, i don't like trading prospects and picks for players (even if they are about to hit their prime.)

as golfing pointed out earlier, the cost certainty involved with young players is valuable in itself.

now, the team will be paying big money to players while the team wallows in mediocrity. by the time the team hopes to compete, those same players will probably need new and bigger ufa deals.

cap space is valuable... especially for a rebuilding team.

Darn didn't see you had the same burn
- Nuck4U

What have I become

i like em both.

If i had to choose, for this current lineup, i would say Guds has more value.
- dbot

Do their cap hits match their team values?

What have I become
- Redmile247

Don't worry about it until you start going it at 3am.

He's 79th among C in PPG, I wouldn't call that elite.
- golfingsince

PPG doesnt dictate a good 3rd line center. He wins faceoffs, kills penalties, goes into our top 6 sometimes.... exactly what we wanted out of him...

See there you go saying they'll become something they aren't again.
- golfingsince

Some folks don't like big mean hockey players. Let's fill our roster out with some more undersized muffins and see how we fair in the playoffs. Ferland beat us by himself in the playoffs
- CanuckDon

Gudbranson is a beast, people are acting like we traded barzal and a 2nd for a bust...injury season cant wait to see what he brings when healthy and knows the teams systems

Some folks don't like big mean hockey players. Let's fill our roster out with some more undersized muffins and see how we fair in the playoffs. Ferland beat us by himself in the playoffs
- CanuckDon

Bieksa made the guy a hero...

okay.

I know JB has said he is happy with Guddy, but I wonder if he would honestly have made that trade if he had known how well Tryamkin would play this year?

I keep thinking back on when MG traded for Ballard and then ended up signing Hamhuis. would MG have not made that trade if he had known he'd be able to sign Hamhuis?

ah feck it, whats done is done.
on me.

maybe I should just be happy that our gm identified a problem and addressed it.
- hillbillydeluxe

I think JB would have made the trade, regardless.
I think he won that trade myself and I see Guds as an established pro, while Traymakin still has a long ways to go (consistency).
I imagine we'll see the all too common sophmore slump with Tree next year and Guds will be in a mentoring role with him, which is a plus.

I hear your point re Ballard, but again, if he played as well as we had hoped when he was acquired, i don't think anyone would be complaining...it's b/c he stunk it up and was oft injured that the trade is looked at unfavorably.

While others believe that since we have the BFG Tryamkin, we are set on D and Guds is expendable.
- dbot

Is right

PPG doesnt dictate a good 3rd line center. He wins faceoffs, kills penalties, goes into our top 6 sometimes.... exactly what we wanted out of him...
- Crazybagoham

All 3rd line C's kill penalties and win face-offs. The elite ones also score, especially when they move into the top 6.

Do their cap hits match their team values?
- A_SteamingLombardi

yes.

if you're asking me.

i also am ok with Guds getting a raise next year.

Gudbranson is a beast, people are acting like we traded barzal and a 2nd for a bust...injury season cant wait to see what he brings when healthy and knows the teams systems
- phyllee

JB isn't getting nearly the credit he deserves for what he's done to this blueline (going out and getting stecher, convincing tryamkin to come over).