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mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:31 PM ET
who says they have to trade a big piece? maybe COL (or NYI), like TOR last year, would be ready to take picks and prospects. with Plek obviously, so the cap works for MTL.
of course it will cost a lot. Duchene (or Tavares) is a good player, signed to a decent contract, not a UFA... but if they want to have a chance at the cup, they have to move.
with the current lineup they don't have much chances, if none at all.

- fidopro

Toronto took picks and prospects because that was the best offer they got for a player they wanted to trade.

edit: assumes they want plekanec
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
Toronto took picks and prospects because that was the best offer they got for a player they wanted to trade.

edit: assumes they want plekanec

- mr.peanut


oh sure COL don't want him, you pay a premium for them to take him. that's why I say it would cost a lot.
but Habs don't really have a choice. otherwise they'll be lucky to win 2 rounds.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
oh sure COL don't want him, you pay a premium for them to take him. that's why I say it would cost a lot.
but Habs don't really have a choice. otherwise they'll be lucky to win 2 rounds.

- fidopro

unless the offer really knocks sakic's socks off I think it's an offseason move. heck, they get the 1st overall they can trade that for a dman, and apparently shattenkirk may want to go back.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
unless the offer really knocks sakic's socks off I think it's an offseason move. heck, they get the 1st overall they can trade that for a dman, and apparently shattenkirk may want to go back.
- mr.peanut


I think MB has all the assets to do so. Just needs to decide if he's in or not.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think MB has all the assets to do so. Just needs to decide if he's in or not.
- fidopro

which top 4 dman is he parting with that will not weaken their defense significantly that will hinder their 'win now' attitude?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
I think MB has all the assets to do so. Just needs to decide if he's in or not.
- fidopro


Pleck, Sergachev, 1st round pick and Beaulieu.

Probably not happening, but yeah.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
Pleck, Sergachev, 1st round pick and Beaulieu.

Probably not happening, but yeah.

- deadpoulet

mb wants to add another left-handed puck-moving defenseman.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
mb wants to add another left-handed puck-moving defenseman.
- mr.peanut


I know, but Colorado wants defense (what everybody is saying) and you've got to give to get something.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 4:54 PM ET
which top 4 dman is he parting with that will not weaken their defense significantly that will hinder their 'win now' attitude?
- mr.peanut


Who says he would have to trade a top 4?
He has 2 very good prospects up front in Sherbak and McCarron. He has 2 very good prospects on the blue line in Sergachev and Juulsen. He has picks.
He also has players on the current roster (Beaulieu?)... plenty to choose from and work out a deal Sakic would agree to.
Like you said, COL will probably get the 1st overall pick, even more so if they trade Duchene. Plenty of time then to get their top pairing dman.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 22 @ 4:57 PM ET
Who says he would have to trade a top 4?
He has 2 very good prospects up front in Sherbak and McCarron. He has 2 very good prospects on the blue line in Sergachev and Juulsen. He has picks.
He also has players on the current roster (Beaulieu?)... plenty to choose from and work out a deal Sakic would agree to.
Like you said, COL will probably get the 1st overall pick, even more so if they trade Duchene. Plenty of time then to get their top pairing dman.

- fidopro

seems like the consensus that they would trade for imminent d help. can't be in a rebuild too long in Denver. the rest, there might be some overrating going on. i don't know.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 5:03 PM ET
seems like the consensus that they would trade for imminent d help. can't be in a rebuild too long in Denver. the rest, there might be some overrating going on. i don't know.
- mr.peanut


fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
Pleck, Sergachev, 1st round pick and Beaulieu.

Probably not happening, but yeah.

- deadpoulet


that would be a good start yes. maybe add a pick or a roster player (bottom 6 guy).
of course if COL absolutely want a top dman, MB is out of the race.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
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Jan 22 @ 5:13 PM ET
that would be a good start yes. maybe add a pick or a roster player (bottom 6 guy).
- fidopro


Pleck, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, Sergachev, Beaulieu?

Colorado could push to get Danault, but if Bergevin can keep him as his 3rd line center, that wouldn't be a bad thing.

I would try to get Iginla in the deal at the same time. Not a deal breaker or anything, but why not?

Again, I do talk about it, but I don't expect any of this to happen.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
Pleck, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, Sergachev, Beaulieu?

Colorado could push to get Danault, but if Bergevin can keep him as his 3rd line center, that wouldn't be a bad thing.

I would try to get Iginla in the deal at the same time. Not a deal breaker or anything, but why not?

Again, I do talk about it, but I don't expect any of this to happen.

- deadpoulet


join the club
took me 2 years for them to trade Eller!

and yes, they keep Danault to center the 3rd line
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jan 22 @ 5:23 PM ET

- deadpoulet

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 5:46 PM ET
des faits alternatifs?!
tabar... ca va ĂȘtre long!
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jan 22 @ 6:08 PM ET
des faits alternatifs?!
tabar... ca va ĂȘtre long!

- fidopro


If this is how they react to petty stuff, just imagine serious criticism
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 6:20 PM ET
If this is how they react to petty stuff, just imagine serious criticism
- stinger67


it's a disgrace. no wonder they all wanna move to Cap Breton.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maple MAGA, ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 22 @ 6:42 PM ET

What if Colorado doesn't want to make any trades?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
What if Colorado doesn't want to make any trades?
- pete26


Hi Pete, good question
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 6:50 PM ET
What if Colorado doesn't want to make any trades?
- pete26


Vanek.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 7:22 PM ET
What if Colorado doesn't want to make any trades?
- pete26


RNH, Tyler Jonhson, Nazem Kadri. Tavares. Not much on the UFA market this summer.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maple MAGA, ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
Hi Pete, good question
- fidopro


Nobody thought of that, huh?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jan 22 @ 9:42 PM ET
Nobody thought of that, huh?
- pete26


alternative facts Pete. nothing more, nothing less.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maple MAGA, ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 22 @ 9:58 PM ET
alternative facts Pete. nothing more, nothing less.
- fidopro


About as factual as a walk down Sesame Street..
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