Good read.

Bogo will get picked up by Vegas. Book it. They need the cap hit and a top 4 Dman and he did not transfer his NTC over from WPG. Murray will expose him.

Reinhart, or Reino (most definitely not Skunk.....is that a hockeybuzz thing??? ), is the type of player this team hasn't had in a very long time. Did anyone see those 2 backhand passes he made to Jack going into the slot against DET & MTL? I haven't seen this kid make a mistake for a long time. Well beyond his years.

GMTM should make a move for a LHD, and with Bailey & Baptiste both top 10 in AHL scoring at 21, I would move Nylander tomorrow. Carrier playing decent and hang onto Kane for another year. Package Nylander, Ullmark and a pick for a top LHD (Fowler?). Sign Petersen and Borgen for ROCH when their NCAA seasons end.

Anyways my 2 cents. Boys look good in 2017. The 2nd half jump is starting to become a trend.
- teamvanek

He makes a lot of mistakes. All players do, it's the magnitude of the mistakes that makes the difference. Bogo doesn't make a lot more than a good defenseman, he just makes really boneheaded ones, like skating, under pressure, the puck right in front of his own net, twice in about 10 minutes.

See above.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah, I was typing and you posted right before me.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if he ever was a 40 point player.

He scored for the 1st time in like 5 or 6 games today in Rochester. Bailey is killing it there
- sbroads24

He would need to get way more than 3rd line time to get to 40 points. Probably. It's only his first year in the league.

He would need to get way more than 3rd line time to get to 40 points. Probably. It's only his first year in the league.
- Wetbandit1

Yea, and I don't see that. I could be wrong

Yea, and I don't see that. I could be wrong
- sbroads24

Yeah, I'm not willing to write him off. That's just the style he seems to play. But again, he has virtually no NHL experience, so we'll see.

Yeah, I'm not willing to write him off. That's just the style he seems to play. But again, he has virtually no NHL experience, so we'll see.
- Wetbandit1

Oh I'm not writing him off. I just don't see more than a 3rd or 4th line guy.

Oh I'm not writing him off. I just don't see more than a 3rd or 4th line guy.
- sbroads24

I think facshing could be a force on 3-4th line, but would never call him anything but bottom 6 guy.

But Stanley cup contenders have strong bottom 6 players.

Ok, 2-3 years from now, bottom 6, Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, Asplund, Pu, Larsson?

Now I could do that....

Ok, 2-3 years from now, bottom 6, Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, Asplund, Pu, Larsson?

Now I could do that....
- Lilroot9

Those are the Sabres best prospects. If they are all bottom 6 players, which they probably are, they are in trouble.

Those are the Sabres best prospects. If they are all bottom 6 players, which they probably are, they are in trouble.
- rmiethaner

umm..Nylander??

Those are the Sabres best prospects. If they are all bottom 6 players, which they probably are, they are in trouble.
- rmiethaner

Forgot Carrier. No, Nylander is best prospect.

Kane Oreilly Okoposo
Nylander Eichel Reinhart
Then bottom 6 mentioned before.

Forgot Carrier. No, Nylander is best prospect.

Kane Oreilly Okoposo
Nylander Eichel Reinhart
Then bottom 6 mentioned before.
- Lilroot9

Yes, forgot about Nylander.

Eichel has to be 1C.

Forgot Carrier. No, Nylander is best prospect.

Kane Oreilly Okoposo
Nylander Eichel Reinhart
Then bottom 6 mentioned before.
- Lilroot9

I guess this is assuming out first this year is a D.

This means trade Foligno, girgensons maybe Gionta for best you can get, maybe could get away with one of those bottom 6 guys, a few seconds rounders and one of Girgensons, Folingo for someone like a Duchehe (don't think that is enough since they want D) and that would allow Kane for a top 4 D.

I'm forgetting about Ennis? Expansion draft?

Yes, forgot about Nylander.

Eichel has to be 1C.
- rmiethaner

Whatever, you get the idea.

Those are the Sabres best prospects. If they are all bottom 6 players, which they probably are, they are in trouble.
- rmiethaner

Not really though, becuase Eichel and Reinhart are still of prospect age. So we really have 3 elite prospects. 2 or 3 good ones, and a bunch of mid tier ones,

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Not really though, becuase Eichel and Reinhart are still of prospect age. So we really have 3 elite prospects. 2 or 3 good ones, and a bunch of mid tier ones,
- Wetbandit1

That's not how it works though. Eichel and Reinhart aren't part of our prospect pool. They are full time NHL'ers for going on 2 years now. We are what we are with them.

We have 1 potential elite prospect in Nylander, and a bunch of guys who wouldn't sniff the top 50 if they were ranked.

How is it at all different? Both goalies were acquired for a single first round pick.

Robin Lehner. 921 save percentage
MA Fleury. 904 save percentage.

People on this site talk about Lehner like he's got an. 898
- jcragcrumple

You're never gonna win this argument on this site. "Some" people here hate Lehner just like they hate Kane. It's just their DNA and NOTHING will change their mind.

That's not how it works though. Eichel and Reinhart aren't part of our prospect pool. They are full time NHL'ers for going on 2 years now. We are what we are with them.

We have 1 potential elite prospect in Nylander, and a bunch of guys who wouldn't sniff the top 50 if they were ranked.
- sbroads24

That's true to a point, but they will, overwhelmingly likely, be better players in 3 years. So it stands to reason that, everything else being equal, leads to a better team. Because we know that players reach their peak at about 24-25. Some a bit later, some a bit earlier, but the vast majority are 24-25 when they're at their peak. Unless you have Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin. And even Malkin, in his best season, his 22 year old season he had 113 points in 82 GP, but had he played all 82 in his 25 year old season, he only played 75 and wound up with 109 points for an 82 game average of 119. And as good as Jack may be I don't think he's Malkin good. But maybe Malkin isn't the best example because he played on the same team Crosby did, so I'm sure he got lots of favorable matchups.

To make a long story short. Eichel and Reinhart are very, very likely no where near their ceiling right now, so in that way, they are prospects who are still developing.

Nice little write up here
http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...ongside-idol-joe-thornton

That's true to a point, but they will, overwhelmingly likely, be better players in 3 years. So it stands to reason that, everything else being equal, leads to a better team. Because we know that players reach their peak at about 24-25. Some a bit later, some a bit earlier, but the vast majority are 24-25 when they're at their peak. Unless you have Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin. And even Malkin, in his best season, his 22 year old season he had 113 points in 82 GP, but had he played all 82 in his 25 year old season, he only played 75 and wound up with 109 points for an 82 game average of 119. And as good as Jack may be I don't think he's Malkin good. But maybe Malkin isn't the best example because he played on the same team Crosby did, so I'm sure he got lots of favorable matchups.

To make a long story short. Eichel and Reinhart are very, very likely no where near their ceiling right now, so in that way, they are prospects who are still developing.
- Wetbandit1

I agree they are developing, but they are only getting better in their current positions. Which is our 1C, and #1 winger.

I wouldn't consider that a prospect. They aren't exactly going from the 4th line or AHL to 1st line over a few years. They are at the top of the lineup already

I agree they are developing, but they are only getting better in their current positions. Which is our 1C, and #1 winger.

I wouldn't consider that a prospect. They aren't exactly going from the 4th line or AHL to 1st line over a few years. They are at the top of the lineup already
- sbroads24

Top of our lineup only because they are the best we have on the team.

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Ok, 2-3 years from now, bottom 6, Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, Asplund, Pu, Larsson?

Now I could do that....
- Lilroot9

of all those players listed


only player that could thrive in the 4th line role IMO is Larsson and he is slow

best 4th line this team could ice IMO right now would be
foligno, cor, deslaurers

So if Robin Lehner backstops the Sabres to top 10 numbers in the league in a few years and we become a contender down the road and he solidifies the position in Buffalo and Colin White is a 45 pt player in Ottawa, who wins the trade?
- mhp

Buffalo would. However, the likelihood of that happening is about the same as Eichel outscoring McDavid for his career (barring injury).