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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
3.75 mil cap hit

is there a better contract in the league? im seriously asking

- Sabresfan-365


Connor McDavid?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
He is the guy, in my view. I elevated him to No. 1 ahead of Shea Theodore yesterday.
- Der Kaiser



i just cant see a scenario where theyd let him go for anything except a massive overpayment.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
Sami Vatanen was a healthy scratch recently. He's a RHD which we have in spades, but if you had Risto, Vatanen and Bogo down the right, the left fills out nicely

McCabe-Risto
Guhle-Vatanen
Hopefully not Goges-Bogo

- jcragcrumple


Anaheim is not moving Vatanen, come on. They will move Theodore or Montour first.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
Connor McDavid?
- HonkFortheGoose



yea but nashvhille has ekholm for 6 years

Mcdavid is toronto bound next summer
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 4:50 PM ET
3.75 mil cap hit

is there a better contract in the league? im seriously asking

- Sabresfan-365


Kane ($2 Mil retained); Fasching or Carrier; 2017 first

They seem to like the game that Murray was going for, but with speed. Give them fast semi"heavy" guys and make it DollarNeutral for them. Maybe we pull a miracle
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:50 PM ET
Anaheim is not moving Vatanen, come on. They will move Theodore or Montour first.
- mhp



They scratched him the other night, he's been awful this year. I would move him if i were them. trade him for a forward and ease theodore and montour in.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:51 PM ET
Kane ($2 Mil retained); Fasching or Carrier; 2017 first

They seem to like the game that Murray was going for, but with speed. Give them fast semi"heavy" guys and make it DollarNeutral for them. Maybe we pull a miracle

- Der Kaiser


The problem is if Ekholm's name is out there id wager there'd be at least 5 offers significantly better than this.

Adam freaking larsson brought New jersey taylor hall.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:51 PM ET
They want D + Picks. McCabe and a 1st for Duchene and a 2nd? I wouldnt do the deal but i'm guessing it would have to look something like that
- jcragcrumple


I would offer McCabe, picks and a prospect. That top 6 would be sweeeet.
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

Jan 25 @ 4:52 PM ET
The issue I think most people have with Moulson isn't that his play is poor, it's just not a good value for what he's being paid.

He's not killing us out there or anything (well, not this year anyway). He's been able to contribute offensively more than we probably expected. He's just not worth what he's getting paid at this point.

- HonkFortheGoose


Moulson didn't just get off the bus and earn a 5year 5 million $ contract, he earned it through the years, that's how the system works, right, wrong or otherwise and really, the money isn't as hard to take when you still have Eichel, Rhino, McCabe still on entry level deals and 2 years that 5 mill comes off the books and it heads to Eichel. Plus, who knows, maybe Las Vegas takes him off our hands to get to their cap floor.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:53 PM ET
Moulson didn't just get off the bus and earn a 5year 5 million $ contract, he earned it through the years, that's how the system works, right, wrong or otherwise and really, the money isn't as hard to take when you still have Eichel, Rhino, McCabe still on entry level deals and 2 years that 5 mill comes off the books and it heads to Eichel. Plus, who knows, maybe Las Vegas takes him off our hands to get to their cap floor.
- macman9



if its about earning then roughly 80 percent of that deal should go to tavares.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:53 PM ET

- jochfr


mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:55 PM ET
They scratched him the other night, he's been awful this year. I would move him if i were them. trade him for a forward and ease theodore and montour in.
- Sabresfan-365


I would love him for sure, I just don't see it. And I think he re-signed last year. The question would be why is he awful this year? I haven't caught any Ducks games.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:55 PM ET
Kane for Ellis

waits for *but hes small*

- Sabresfan-365



Bump

I think more liklely to happen
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:55 PM ET
yea but nashvhille has ekholm for 6 years

Mcdavid is toronto bound next summer

- Sabresfan-365


Sorry. I was just being silly.

I couldn't help myself.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:55 PM ET
I would love him for sure, I just don't see it. And I think he re-signed last year. The question would be why is he awful this year? I haven't caught any Ducks games.
- mhp



Because he's paired with the one defensemen on the ducks you wouldn't want to be paired with.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:56 PM ET
The problem is if Ekholm's name is out there id wager there'd be at least 5 offers significantly better than this.

Adam freaking larsson brought New jersey taylor hall.

- Sabresfan-365


I was watching him last night. He takes lots of chances jumping up on the rush.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
I would offer McCabe, picks and a prospect. That top 6 would be sweeeet.
- mhp


Bring Duchene in, then you might as well move ROR out. He was part of the reason ROR was disgruntled in COL as far as I remember.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Because he's paired with the one defensemen on the ducks you wouldn't want to be paired with.
- Sabresfan-365


Let me guess, Bieksa?
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Bring Duchene in, then you might as well move ROR out. He was part of the reason ROR was disgruntled in COL as far as I remember.
- HonkFortheGoose


I'm not sure I believe all that stuff Goose.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
I was watching him last night. He takes lots of chances jumping up on the rush.
- mhp



I believe thats a laviolette thing no?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
Let me guess, Bieksa?
- mhp



Fowler
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
Bring Duchene in, then you might as well move ROR out. He was part of the reason ROR was disgruntled in COL as far as I remember.
- HonkFortheGoose



Did they not play on the same line during the world championships in the summer?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:59 PM ET
Moulson didn't just get off the bus and earn a 5year 5 million $ contract, he earned it through the years, that's how the system works, right, wrong or otherwise and really, the money isn't as hard to take when you still have Eichel, Rhino, McCabe still on entry level deals and 2 years that 5 mill comes off the books and it heads to Eichel. Plus, who knows, maybe Las Vegas takes him off our hands to get to their cap floor.
- macman9


Murray threw him a bone because they needed some veteran guys and also needed to get to the cap floor at the time.

This is not me saying that Moulson didn't deserve the money at the time, but when you look at the value we currently get from his deal, it's pretty crappy in a lot of ways.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 4:59 PM ET
Did they not play on the same line during the world championships in the summer?
- Sabresfan-365


Perhaps, but that's a short tournament. Not a "I have to deal with you every day for a whole season" type of situation.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 25 @ 5:00 PM ET
I'm not sure I believe all that stuff Goose.
- mhp


I'm not sure I do either. But is it worth the risk?
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