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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
William Nylander

for

Jake McCabe
2017 2nd round pick (Minnesota)
2018 2nd round pick
Justin Bailey

Who wins this trade? Just for fun.

- bluengold12


For fun I'd say it would be interesting to see if Nylander could reach his full potential. Having both brothers play together could be a lot of fun as well.

In reality though, we're giving up too much here. Jake McCabe is very solid defender on the rise, Bailey is a good 3rd liner and 2nds can still produce high end players. You could end up giving up a top4 D, Top9 winger and two very solid prospects. While I think you're on the right track as far as taking a prospect and adding a pick to get a better quality player...we can't really afford the loss of a single defender right now as mentioned above.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 26 @ 6:53 PM ET
William Nylander

for

Jake McCabe
2017 2nd round pick (Minnesota)
2018 2nd round pick
Justin Bailey

Who wins this trade? Just for fun.

- bluengold12


Initial reaction is pretty fair, but I'm a big believer in whoever gets the best player wins the trade. That said I'd rather spend some picks and prospects on a real quality LHD
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Still Suffering 2024, FL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 26 @ 7:02 PM ET
William Nylander

for

Jake McCabe
2017 2nd round pick (Minnesota)
2018 2nd round pick
Justin Bailey

Who wins this trade? Just for fun.

- bluengold12


Same vein

2017 second
2017 Minnesota second
Evander Kane
Zemgus Girgensons


Cam Fowler


The risk is great, Fowler's contract is up soon
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
Same vein

2017 second
2017 Minnesota second
Evander Kane
Zemgus Girgensons


Cam Fowler


The risk is great, Fowler's contract is up soon

- jcragcrumple


This probably makes more sense for the team. Still think is an overpayment, but may be overvaluing players in the Blue/Gold. I see a top6 forward, 3rd line center and two solid prospects for a guy who could potentially jump ship pretty quickly. This is better than trading Nylander by far though. He will be special.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:11 PM ET
This probably makes more sense for the team. Still think is an overpayment, but may be overvaluing players in the Blue/Gold. I see a top6 forward, 3rd line center and two solid prospects for a guy who could potentially jump ship pretty quickly. This is better than trading Nylander by far though. He will be special.
- RhinoFan



We wouldn't be trading Nylander. We'd be getting his brother in my scenario.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jan 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Same vein

2017 second
2017 Minnesota second
Evander Kane
Zemgus Girgensons


Cam Fowler


The risk is great, Fowler's contract is up soon

- jcragcrumple

Pass
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
We wouldn't be trading Nylander. We'd be getting his brother in my scenario.
- bluengold12


Oh no I got that, wasn't comparing that. I heard the rumor over the summer that it was Fowler for #8 (Nylander). That was all. I love the idea of getting his brother. I just don't think McCabe is a piece we can stand to lose.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
This probably makes more sense for the team. Still think is an overpayment, but may be overvaluing players in the Blue/Gold. I see a top6 forward, 3rd line center and two solid prospects for a guy who could potentially jump ship pretty quickly. This is better than trading Nylander by far though. He will be special.
- RhinoFan


Yeah as soon as I typed that I had some regret. Still think we need a top pair LHD somehow though
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jan 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
Canadiens Montréal ‏@CanadiensMTL 18m18 minutes ago
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Canadiens acquire defenseman Nikita Nesterov from Tampa, in return for defenseman Jonathan Racine and a 6th round pick in 2017.

I would have taken a flier on Nesterov
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:23 PM ET
Canadiens Montréal ‏@CanadiensMTL 18m18 minutes ago
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Canadiens acquire defenseman Nikita Nesterov from Tampa, in return for defenseman Jonathan Racine and a 6th round pick in 2017.

I would have taken a flier on Nesterov

- chilliard77

Trade deadline is March 1st. Could start to pick up.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
Canadiens Montréal ‏@CanadiensMTL 18m18 minutes ago
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Canadiens acquire defenseman Nikita Nesterov from Tampa, in return for defenseman Jonathan Racine and a 6th round pick in 2017.

I would have taken a flier on Nesterov

- chilliard77


He'd never see time over gorges though. If that was even in the realm of possibility Guhle would already be here.

sigh...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
He'd never see time over gorges though. If that was even in the realm of possibility Guhle would already be here.

sigh...

- Sabresfan-365


Betting Gorges is gone by the draft next year. One way or another...
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:27 PM ET
Trade deadline is March 1st. Could start to pick up.
- cabin



28th apparently cuz of some cba thing
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
Betting Gorges is gone by the draft next year. One way or another...
- bluengold12



i know he's a great leader and all that but unless there's another team headed for a sabres esque tank its likely the only way he ends up off the team is via buyout.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
28th apparently cuz of some cba thing
- Sabresfan-365

Yeah some sort of conflict going on there. Gonna have to wait an see.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
Tampa starts the SALE

Tampa Bay - trades away Nikita Nesterov Defensemen 3 g 9 ast 12pts in 35 games this season.


In return the Bolts get F - Jonathan Racine 23 old forward with 3pts and 58 Penalty Minutes in 26 games for AHL St. Johns Bay (87th pick of Tampa in 2013, traded to Canadians in 2014 season. & 6th Rounder


Montreal the CLEAR winner here, what the hell

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
Tampa starts the SALE

Tampa Bay - trades away Nikita Nesterov Defensemen 3 g 9 ast 12pts in 35 games this season.


In return the Bolts get F - Jonathan Racine 23 old forward with 3pts and 58 Penalty Minutes in 26 games for AHL St. Johns Bay (87th pick of Tampa in 2013, traded to Canadians in 2014 season. & 6th Rounder


Montreal the CLEAR winner here, what the hell


- MEBSabresFAN


Tampa just needed to clear a roster spot. Nesterov was their 7th D, although thats some kind of stat line from racine lol
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:31 PM ET
Flyers up 1-0 on the Leafs. That game cannot go to OT one way or the other.

Huge game tonight.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:33 PM ET
Initial reaction is pretty fair, but I'm a big believer in whoever gets the best player wins the trade. That said I'd rather spend some picks and prospects on a real quality LHD
- jcragcrumple


Young D are worth more than young skilled wingers, and take longer to develop, McCabe is being horribly undervalued , thats not a fan, thats just reality in todays fast NHL
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:35 PM ET
28th apparently cuz of some cba thing
- Sabresfan-365


It's so many days before the end of the season I think.

Edit: 40 days before the last day of the season.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
Trade deadline is March 1st. Could start to pick up.
- cabin

Dream scenario would be to be in a position for the Panthers to give us Jags and like it. Jags and Eichel. Let's see it. Advanced stats guys would have to use a log scale graph to chart them.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
Flyers up 1-0 on the Leafs. That game cannot go to OT one way or the other.

Huge game tonight.

- Hatboro_Swords



I here what you're saying, but I would rather see a fast tempo game where are stars play like stars and we get decent goaltending showing growth, than look like crap and get a lucky win or whatever other teams are doing in the pts race.

My first priority is the growth and development of our team, including our Young Core of Eichel-Reinhart-Risto-McCabe-Gergensons-Foligno and leadership and great play from ROR-Ockposo-Kane-Ennis-Foligno in a system that takes advantage of our team's skill positions, basically Play to your strength.

Priority 1 = Eichel/Reinhart shine
Priority 2 = ROR/Ockposo Lead by Ex
Priority 3 = Goalie Assessment
Priority 4 = Playoffs
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:45 PM ET
http://video.nhl.com/vide...atid=60&id=754213&lang=en

Some bad blood between Seguin and Kulikov.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:54 PM ET
Dream scenario would be to be in a position for the Panthers to give us Jags and like it. Jags and Eichel. Let's see it. Advanced stats guys would have to use a log scale graph to chart them.
- Hatboro_Swords

Jagr is a relic we don't need
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