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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
I agree, but McCabe will want a hefty pay raise after next season if his playing time / results keep rising. This was a "show me" contract right now.

I would say you can pay 2 D men $5m + and find interchangeable other parts, or someone like Guhle for years to come (entry contract and then his "show me" contract).

Similar with forwards, you can pay maybe 4-5 guys good money, but then need to balance out the rest with lower cost options (solid veterans that are 4th liners or entry level players)

- Lilroot9


The season after. it's a 3 year deal
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:41 PM ET
Its like the whole league just wants to line up and do the leafs whatever favour they want, there are 29 other teams in the league.

But yeah centre of the universe.

- Sabres1523


Great for Leafs fans they think the whole NHL revolves around a team that has not made the finals for 30+ years. Good for them.

Let me know when they make the second round of the playoffs.....
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:43 PM ET
The season after. it's a 3 year deal
- Sabresfan-365


You are correct. So 2 more years at a great cap hit. Solid!

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:43 PM ET
our d is pathetic


stay on topic
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
Trade deadline is 4 weeks away from tomorrow! Let's get those rumors flowing! lol
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
Great for Leafs fans they think the whole NHL revolves around a team that has not made the finals for 30+ years. Good for them.

Let me know when they make the second round of the playoffs.....

- Lilroot9

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
You are correct. So 2 more years at a great cap hit. Solid!
- Lilroot9


sarcasm? lol i think it is. Im not certain his pay raise will be that huge either.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
TSN has an article up explaining why the leafs should trade marner for Laine, man it just doesn't stop with that city, cant wait for the Tavares rumors to start up.
- Sabres1523

NHL network show gave midseason grades for teams.. I caught Toronto and they got an A.. i think there was only like 3 teams with an A+ and maybe two others with an A..
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
our d is pathetic


stay on topic

- homiedclown



16th in ga last year though.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:46 PM ET
NHL network show gave midseason grades for teams.. I caught Toronto and they got an A.. i think there was only like 3 teams with an A+ and maybe two others with an A..
- IndianaSabresFan


Not an A level team but relative to expectations it's an A no?
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
Trade deadline is 4 weeks away from tomorrow! Let's get those rumors flowing! lol
- Lilroot9


4 weeks from today I believe
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
Not an A level team but relative to expectations it's an A no?
- Sabresfan-365

yeah.. i didn't hear the reasoning.. i just saw the A.. but i thought they were just overall grades they were breaking it up into Goals for, goals against and other grades.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
Game night, GiC
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
sarcasm? lol i think it is. Im not certain his pay raise will be that huge either.
- Sabresfan-365


No sarcasm, that is a solid length. I remember hearing that contract over the summer and was very happy, just thought that was a year+ ago, oh well. I do think he will get a nice raise, but he will have to earn it as a top 2 D man (which is what we having him playing now, right?) But that is pretty far out for me to be worried about.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
4 weeks from today I believe
- stashu


I think it's a Wednesday, so it would be from tomorrow?

https://twitter.com/Real_...status/826486233043959809
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
No sarcasm, that is a solid length. I remember hearing that contract over the summer and was very happy, just thought that was a year+ ago, oh well. I do think he will get a nice raise, but he will have to earn it as a top 2 D man (which is what we having him playing now, right?) But that is pretty far out for me to be worried about.
- Lilroot9



it's starting to take it's toll on him. when this team competes he'll be a 3/4 and lower end offensive production.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
16th in ga last year though.
- Sabresfan-365


As of right now 17th, weisenheimer.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think it's a Wednesday, so it would be from tomorrow?

https://twitter.com/Real_...status/826486233043959809

- Lilroot9


Conflicting dates out there, I'm not really sure.

CBS Sports article:

Feb. 28 -- NHL Trade Deadline
While not officially announced yet, the league's NHL trade deadline should be Tuesday, Feb. 28 at 3 p.m. EST based on the league's rules:


CapFriendly @CapFriendly
The NHL trade deadline will be on February 28th, at 3pm (40th day immediately preceding the final day of the Regular Season)
1:28 PM - 21 Jun 2016
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:07 PM ET
As of right now 17th, weisenheimer.
- Der Kaiser



kinda helps make the point no?


eh whatever it's game night hopefully i'll wake up to a good one.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:13 PM ET
they have to get the bad contracts off this team in the next 7 months


bogo
moulson
ennis
gorges


god they all suck
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 31 @ 1:17 PM ET
kinda helps make the point no?


eh whatever it's game night hopefully i'll wake up to a good one.

- Sabresfan-365



I guess if your point is that we're middle of the pack and sky is not actually falling???
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:18 PM ET
they have to get the bad contracts off this team in the next 7 months


bogo
moulson
ennis
gorges


god they all suck

- homiedclown


1) trade for pennies on the dollar
2)jedi mind trick vegas
3) same as 1
4) buyout
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:19 PM ET
16th in ga last year though.
- Sabresfan-365

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:19 PM ET
I guess if your point is that we're middle of the pack and sky is not actually falling???
- Der Kaiser



my point was it was middle of the pack last year and it was our downfall, like it is again this year.

Most of our problems stem from a weak d-core, matched up even on paper it's amongst the weakest. Doesn't mean the sky is falling though. If they overpay and pass off a #4 as a #1/2 then maybe.

Edit: middle as in the goals against number, not the overall defense.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 1:23 PM ET

- sbroads24



same crowd that wants bylsma to open it up. Which he should but the improvement in the standings would be minimal. We'd basically be the Jets right now, 8-12 in GF and 30th in GA.
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