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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:51 PM ET
Or it could be sooner when the dict......never mind.
- rmiethaner



:O
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:52 PM ET
Or it could be sooner when the dict......never mind.
- rmiethaner




BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:53 PM ET


- Wetbandit1



hahaha
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:46 AM ET
as a unit, our d is bad
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:56 AM ET
http://theahl.com/2017-ah...l-star-skills-competition

looks like ullmark held his own
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:03 AM ET
http://www.sabresprospect...pact-of-sam-reinhart.html
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 31 @ 1:29 AM ET
as a unit, our d is bad
- homiedclown



Understatement of the week?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 3:26 AM ET
Some players Reinhart has more goals than:

Corey Perry
Jonathan Toews
Aleksander Barkov
Henri Zetterberg
Gabriel Landeskog
Alex Steen
Zach Parise
Ryan Getzlaf
Jason Spezza
Anze Kopitar
Sean Couturier
Max Domi
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Matthew Tkachuk
Tyler Toffoli
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 3:30 AM ET
Sabres are at 2.92 goals per game since Eichel's return

That's good enough to be tied with Edmonton for 8th in the league


And we have Nylander, Bailey, Baptiste, Fasching & Asplund (possibly) ready to join the NHL ranks soon

We NEED defense
I like Duchene (and Landiskog) quite a bit
But unless we make moves to bring in more defense,
That's solid & will be here long term,
We just can't be trading any away right now for another forward
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 3:51 AM ET
My only reasoning for McDavid setting Jack's market, is because of the potential that Eichel has.

Doughty was signed to a massive contract that took him a few years to "earn." I just see Eichel's agent using McDavid as leverage. I hope he sticks in the same light of how Toews and P. Kane were signed, but I can see it easily going the other way.

- thatsapickle



Yep 2 years.

He was a Norris finalist placing 3rd his 2nd year in.....

Mother fvcker has gotten Norris votes 6 of 8 years in the league.

http://www.hockey-referen.../players/d/doughdr01.html

And this is part of why I read more and post less.

He was signed to a huge contract because well........... he earned it.

Sh!t he got Hart votes his second year in for that matter.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 4:01 AM ET
I hope so, haven't seen much except WJ last year and prospects scrimmage.
- sbroads24



smooth skater, smart player, decent stick work. He's not going to wow you but there's enough there that makes me believe hes got a future. Not bad for a fourth rounder.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 4:58 AM ET
I'd add Fitzgerald to that list, but other than Risto and McCabe we can't say for certain that these guys will be quality or eve full-time NHLers. Best thing to do is just load up on defense in this up coming draft and let the kids develop over the next 2-4 seasons. If we pick enough guys, we're bound to find some good ones along the way.
- sskkoo1




We've passed on defensemen in the 2nd round of recent drafts that I liked at the time quite a bit

In 2014,
We took Cornel & Karabacek (horrible freaking pick!) when we could've taken McKeown & Dougherty. They went in the 2nd round the next 2 picks after that stupid Karabacek pick.
Can't say it enough...
Karabacek was a terrible, terrible pick


In the 2013 second round,
we picked a couple forwards I liked... Compher & Bailey
In between,
Another stupid pick
Instead of Connor Hurley, we could've taken Steve Santini
Never understood the "Hurley would be a 1st round pick if he was in the next draft" talk... he was a reach when we took him. And his sloooooow progression is showing that


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 6:11 AM ET
We've passed on defensemen in the 2nd round of recent drafts that I liked at the time quite a bit

In 2014,
We took Cornel & Karabacek (horrible freaking pick!) when we could've taken McKeown & Dougherty. They went in the 2nd round the next 2 picks after that stupid Karabacek pick.
Can't say it enough...
Karabacek was a terrible, terrible pick


In the 2013 second round,
we picked a couple forwards I liked... Compher & Bailey
In between,
Another stupid pick
Instead of Connor Hurley, we could've taken Steve Santini
Never understood the "Hurley would be a 1st round pick if he was in the next draft" talk... he was a reach when we took him. And his sloooooow progression is showing that

- jdfitz77



i dunno why they didnt try trading up. 3 2nd rounders and couldn't find anybody to deal? Even at a massive overpayment still would've gotten them into the first round.

Santini hasn't been overly impressive either, granted hes in the nhl and karabacek is not. Ditto Dougherty
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jan 31 @ 7:56 AM ET
Some players Reinhart has more goals than:

Corey Perry
Jonathan Toews
Aleksander Barkov
Henri Zetterberg
Gabriel Landeskog
Alex Steen
Zach Parise
Ryan Getzlaf
Jason Spezza
Anze Kopitar
Sean Couturier
Max Domi
Evgeny Kuznetsov
Matthew Tkachuk
Tyler Toffoli

- jdfitz77


Did we draft the right Sam?
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jan 31 @ 7:57 AM ET
as a unit, our d is bad
- homiedclown

Huh-huh...unit...
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jan 31 @ 8:17 AM ET
We've passed on defensemen in the 2nd round of recent drafts that I liked at the time quite a bit

In 2014,
We took Cornel & Karabacek (horrible freaking pick!) when we could've taken McKeown & Dougherty. They went in the 2nd round the next 2 picks after that stupid Karabacek pick.
Can't say it enough...
Karabacek was a terrible, terrible pick


In the 2013 second round,
we picked a couple forwards I liked... Compher & Bailey
In between,
Another stupid pick
Instead of Connor Hurley, we could've taken Steve Santini
Never understood the "Hurley would be a 1st round pick if he was in the next draft" talk... he was a reach when we took him. And his sloooooow progression is showing that

- jdfitz77


I also wanted us to take Mckeown too.

But, as for as bad as the Karbacek pick was, I was watching him play the other day and there is something there. There is a talent about him under the surface that I hope really breaks out at some point. As for Hurley, he was a pick because he was a college bound guy. We'd been making a lot of picks and more were on the way, so Darcy wanted college players to extend their rights past two years. I'm not saying I agree with passing up better talent for guys you could potentially hold onto longer without signing, but that was what Darcy was doing at the time.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:20 AM ET
http://www.sabresprospects.com/2017/01/digging-into-impact-of-sam-reinhart.html
- homiedclown


This was an interesting read, thanks for posting.

Go Samson!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 31 @ 8:37 AM ET
Sabres are at 2.92 goals per game since Eichel's return

That's good enough to be tied with Edmonton for 8th in the league


And we have Nylander, Bailey, Baptiste, Fasching & Asplund (possibly) ready to join the NHL ranks soon

We NEED defense
I like Duchene (and Landiskog) quite a bit
But unless we make moves to bring in more defense,
That's solid & will be here long term,
We just can't be trading any away right now for another forward

- jdfitz77


I agree.
Defense is now our primary area of need, specifically Risto's long-term partner.
IMO, We need to leverage Kane, a prospect, and a pick if necessary to acquire him...likely in the offseason.
Player X - Risto
McCabe - Bogo ( cause it will me a miracle to be rid of him)
Guehle - Gorges (cause it will take a miracle to be rid of him, and as a bottom pairing hopefully he doesn't kill us)
Fedun
I could see Guehle and Fedun trading on and off until Guehle settles in.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 8:53 AM ET
I agree.
Defense is now our primary area of need, specifically Risto's long-term partner.
IMO, We need to leverage Kane, a prospect, and a pick if necessary to acquire him...likely in the offseason.
Player X - Risto
McCabe - Bogo ( cause it will me a miracle to be rid of him)
Guehle - Gorges (cause it will take a miracle to be rid of him, and as a bottom pairing hopefully he doesn't kill us)
Fedun
I could see Guehle and Fedun trading on and off until Guehle settles in.

- IonSabres

i have a feeling we are going to have to bank on a young promising d man to be a top pairing guy in said trade.. no one is going to trade you an already top pair guy for that unless it is a high draft pick
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 31 @ 9:04 AM ET
i have a feeling we are going to have to bank on a young promising d man to be a top pairing guy in said trade.. no one is going to trade you an already top pair guy for that unless it is a high draft pick
- IndianaSabresFan



...and he wants out.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 31 @ 9:07 AM ET
i have a feeling we are going to have to bank on a young promising d man to be a top pairing guy in said trade.. no one is going to trade you an already top pair guy for that unless it is a high draft pick
- IndianaSabresFan



I'd be ok with that as well.
Also, keep in mind the expnsion draft..for teams loaded with D but who need O, if they don't make a move, conceivably they could lose that D...so grab what you can.
Our 1st rounder could be a top 7 pick.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 31 @ 9:32 AM ET
http://theahl.com/2017-ahl-all-star-skills-competition

looks like ullmark held his own

- homiedclown

Pervert
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 31 @ 9:33 AM ET
Good interview with Rex

http://www.nydailynews.co...m_campaign=mmehta+twitter
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 9:36 AM ET
I'd be ok with that as well.
Also, keep in mind the expnsion draft..for teams loaded with D but who need O, if they don't make a move, conceivably they could lose that D...so grab what you can.
Our 1st rounder could be a top 7 pick.

- IonSabres

who would those teams be, nashville and anahiem? i think those are going to have to be your biggest targets.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 31 @ 9:39 AM ET
who would those teams be, nashville and anahiem? i think those are going to have to be your biggest targets.
- IndianaSabresFan


Add Minnie, but yes
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