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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 31 @ 9:39 AM ET
who would those teams be, nashville and anahiem? i think those are going to have to be your biggest targets.
- IndianaSabresFan


Minnesota could be another.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 9:44 AM ET
I agree.
Defense is now our primary area of need, specifically Risto's long-term partner.
IMO, We need to leverage Kane, a prospect, and a pick if necessary to acquire him...likely in the offseason.
Player X - Risto
McCabe - Bogo ( cause it will me a miracle to be rid of him)
Guehle - Gorges (cause it will take a miracle to be rid of him, and as a bottom pairing hopefully he doesn't kill us)
Fedun
I could see Guehle and Fedun trading on and off until Guehle settles in.

- IonSabres



neither of these guys are hard to get rid of. Bogosian is tradeable my bet is that Murray's asking the kind of price you'd ask if you were moving a top 4 guy rather than just moving on from someone. Gorges is a buyout candidate. temporary hit for 2 years but if it means freeing up a spot for a significant upgrade you do it.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 9:45 AM ET
Minnesota could be another.
- HonkFortheGoose

we have a history with Minny.. do they want another 2nd
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 31 @ 9:49 AM ET
Good interview with Rex

http://www.nydailynews.co...m_campaign=mmehta+twitter

- adambuffalo


Rex has consistently gotten NO help at the QB position. Sanchez, Geno, Tyrod, EJ, and an old Mike Vick.....

If you put a Phillip Rivers or even an Alex Smith on either the 09' or 10' Jets those teams go to the Super Bowl.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 31 @ 9:57 AM ET
smooth skater, smart player, decent stick work. He's not going to wow you but there's enough there that makes me believe hes got a future. Not bad for a fourth rounder.
- Sabresfan-365

Sounds like Pissboy
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:01 AM ET
Sounds like Pissboy
- jochfr


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:10 AM ET
Sounds like Pissboy
- jochfr



except Borgen is actually a great skater not just some myth conjured up by the analytics community as part of their delusion that pysyk was the next anton stralman
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:10 AM ET
Pervert
- jochfr

you're an a$$


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:13 AM ET
teams with d men worth trading for

ducks
blues
flames
jets
islanders
wild
preds

if your looking to get a younger blue chip prospect
stars
caps
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:16 AM ET
i dunno why they didnt try trading up. 3 2nd rounders and couldn't find anybody to deal? Even at a massive overpayment still would've gotten them into the first round.

Santini hasn't been overly impressive either, granted hes in the nhl and karabacek is not. Ditto Dougherty

- Sabresfan-365




But look at what we have in the system
Wouldn't it be better to have Santini, Dougherty & McKeown than Hurley, Karabacek & Cornel (and I kinda like Cornel)

But the point is...
even if those defensemen don't work out,
They still have the potential too right now...
and could (at the least) be potential trade bait bc so many teams are looking for young defense
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 31 @ 10:17 AM ET
you're an a$$



- homiedclown


Lately, you are correct...

Edit: Hopefully this new girl will change my terribleness.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:18 AM ET
teams with d men worth trading for

ducks
blues
flames
jets
islanders
wild
preds

if your looking to get a younger blue chip prospect
stars
caps

- homiedclown




Winnipeg is a team in a rough spot
They've gotta protect Enstrom (and Byfuglien),
Which means they'll likely lose Myers in the expansion draft unless they trade him or Trouba
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:19 AM ET
Winnipeg is a team in a rough spot
They've gotta protect Enstrom (and Byfuglien),
Which means they'll likely lose Myers in the expansion draft unless they trade him or Trouba

- jdfitz77


Only people upset will be Vegas fans.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:19 AM ET
teams with d men worth trading for

ducks
blues
flames
jets
islanders
wild
preds

if your looking to get a younger blue chip prospect
stars
caps

- homiedclown


Add the Avs who have expansion draft issues with d-men
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:21 AM ET
Winnipeg is a team in a rough spot
They've gotta protect Enstrom (and Byfuglien),
Which means they'll likely lose Myers in the expansion draft unless they trade him or Trouba

- jdfitz77

Trouba has been great this year, and I think he still wants to be traded.

They should have moved Buff and given the keys to Trouba last year.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:22 AM ET
I also wanted us to take Mckeown too.

But, as for as bad as the Karbacek pick was, I was watching him play the other day and there is something there. There is a talent about him under the surface that I hope really breaks out at some point. As for Hurley, he was a pick because he was a college bound guy. We'd been making a lot of picks and more were on the way, so Darcy wanted college players to extend their rights past two years. I'm not saying I agree with passing up better talent for guys you could potentially hold onto longer without signing, but that was what Darcy was doing at the time.

- sskkoo1




Santini was going to college too though
So he still should've been the pick over Hurley imo

Maybe I'll be wrong about Karabacek
I have not watched him at all this year...
so if he's taken a leap great
But what I have seen of him in the past left me no desire to even sign the guy
And he was a reach when we picked him
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:23 AM ET
Add the Avs who have expansion draft issues with d-men
- stashu


Thats like the one team you could acquire a d-man from that would make us worse



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:23 AM ET
Santini was going to college too though
So he still should've been the pick over Hurley imo

Maybe I'll be wrong about Karabacek
I have not watched him at all this year...
so if he's taken a leap great
But what I have seen of him in the past left me no desire to even sign the guy
And he was a reach when we picked him

- jdfitz77

You aren't wrong about Karabacek. He's not making the NHL, ever
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
You aren't wrong about Karabacek. He's not making the NHL, ever
- sbroads24

our farm system as a whole is turrible
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
Trouba has been great this year, and I think he still wants to be traded.

They should have moved Buff and given the keys to Trouba last year.

- sbroads24




There's certain some teams to potentially take advantage of if we can find the roght trade partner

I still like the Ducks as my #1 target
Even if it's just Manson that we can get from him
A "defensive" defenseman is exactly what we need to pair with Risto (or Bogo)
And if he's good enough to pair with Lindholm,
That works for me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:28 AM ET
Add the Avs who have expansion draft issues with d-men
- stashu

is Patrick Wiercioch a top 4 d man?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
There's certain some teams to potentially take advantage of if we can find the roght trade partner

I still like the Ducks as my #1 target
Even if it's just Manson that we can get from him
A "defensive" defenseman is exactly what we need to pair with Risto (or Bogo)
And if he's good enough to pair with Lindholm,
That works for me

- jdfitz77

Canes or Ducks.

I'd rather go for Justin Faulk
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:29 AM ET
our farm system as a whole is turrible
- IndianaSabresFan

It's not good. Which is really kind of crazy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:30 AM ET
Did we draft the right Sam?

- mattsox




Yes
Just bc he isn't flashy,
Doesn't mean he isn't a really good player
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 31 @ 10:32 AM ET
Yes
Just bc he isn't flashy,
Doesn't mean he isn't a really good player

- jdfitz77

Right Sam, still wrong player.
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