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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 6 @ 7:39 AM ET
I imagine most (probably all) of us here in the HBSL are playing at least 1 Sabre, likely at least 2 (only 2 myself, but almost went 3).

I thought I'd do some stat research and found this out:

HBSL Fantasy Points per game:

Eichel: 8

The top 10 Centers:

Crosby: 10.6
Malkin: 10.1
McDavid: 8.7
Carter: 8.3
Seguin: 8.1
Scheifele: 8.1
Pavelski: 7.7
Tavares: 8.1
Kadri: 8.01
Matthews: 7.96

Edit:

His point total is propped up by shots (4 per game, each shot being 1 point), but he's also skewed in PIM since you get points for them and he only has 4 whereas Malkin has 56, Kadri has over 60, and the rest of the top 10 have and average around 20 PIM

- stashu


I don't know why PIM would be awarded points, as they rarely help a team.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 7:41 AM ET
I don't know why PIM would be awarded points, as they rarely help a team.
- Der Kaiser


Meh...fantasy sports logic. Each PIM is 2 points, each shot is 1.

Remove Malkin's PIMs and he has an average of 7.7 fantasy points per game

Edit:

Oops, that's wrong. Forwards get 1 point per PIM, d-men get 2.

Malkin minus PIMs = 8.9 points per game
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 7:58 AM ET
Lots of those this week.
- stashu

Whoa you're not kidding that's a lot
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Feb 6 @ 8:02 AM ET
I imagine most (probably all) of us here in the HBSL are playing at least 1 Sabre, likely at least 2 (only 2 myself, but almost went 3).

I thought I'd do some stat research and found this out:

HBSL Fantasy Points per game:

Eichel: 8

The top 10 Centers:

Crosby: 10.6
Malkin: 10.1
McDavid: 8.7
Carter: 8.3
Seguin: 8.1
Scheifele: 8.1
Pavelski: 7.7
Tavares: 8.1
Kadri: 8.01
Matthews: 7.96

Edit:

His point total is propped up by shots (4 per game, each shot being 1 point), but he's also skewed in PIM since you get points for them and he only has 4 whereas Malkin has 56, Kadri has over 60, and the rest of the top 10 have and average around 20 PIM

- stashu



e.Kane I believe is at like 8.075
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 8:04 AM ET
e.Kane I believe is at like 8.075
- Herzeleid


Yep, good call (just looked him up)

I spend a lot of my time looking to add players on the first screen or two every week, but I really need to dig further to find players like that who've missed time but are still putting up good numbers.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 8:11 AM ET
I know it's not gonna happen, but let's have some fun.

With all wins "this week" (going by HBSL weeks, which is Monday through Sunday), Buffalo could have 62 points.

Ottawa has 3 games
Boston has 3 games
Toronto has 4 games
Florida has 2 games
Tampa has 3 games
Detroit has 4 games

If all those teams win their games, except for Toronto vs Buffalo, then the standings are:

Montreal
Ottawa 66
Boston 64
Toronto 63
Buffalo 62
Florida 60
Detroit 60
Tampa 58

It's good to dream....
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Feb 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
I know it's not gonna happen, but let's have some fun.

With all wins "this week" (going by HBSL weeks, which is Monday through Sunday), Buffalo could have 62 points.

Ottawa has 3 games
Boston has 3 games
Toronto has 4 games
Florida has 2 games
Tampa has 3 games
Detroit has 4 games

If all those teams win their games, except for Toronto vs Buffalo, then the standings are:

Montreal
Ottawa 66
Boston 64
Toronto 63
Buffalo 62
Florida 60
Detroit 60
Tampa 58

It's good to dream....

- stashu


I'll be happy if we take 1 of the 2 against the Sharks and Ducks....we should beat the Devils....and EFF the Leafs!
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 6 @ 8:31 AM ET
(frank) the pats !!!!!!!

The Falcons have this!!

- GERBE!!!75PTS


stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 8:41 AM ET
I'll be happy if we take 1 of the 2 against the Sharks and Ducks....we should beat the Devils....and EFF the Leafs!
- feetontheair22


They've been good against the west, so here's hoping that continues (that's 3 of the 5), and then NJ and Toronto. Not extreme reaches to say they can beat them, just gotta hope the good side of this Jekyll/Hyde team comes to play this week.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 6 @ 8:58 AM ET
They've been good against the west, so here's hoping that continues (that's 3 of the 5), and then NJ and Toronto. Not extreme reaches to say they can beat them, just gotta hope the good side of this Jekyll/Hyde team comes to play this week.
- stashu

this is how i have described them to friends who have asked how they are doing this season
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 9:13 AM ET
this is how i have described them to friends who have asked how they are doing this season
- IndianaSabresFan

Definition of a young team
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 9:18 AM ET
I know it's not gonna happen, but let's have some fun.

With all wins "this week" (going by HBSL weeks, which is Monday through Sunday), Buffalo could have 62 points.

Ottawa has 3 games
Boston has 3 games
Toronto has 4 games
Florida has 2 games
Tampa has 3 games
Detroit has 4 games

If all those teams win their games, except for Toronto vs Buffalo, then the standings are:

Montreal
Ottawa 66
Boston 64
Toronto 63
Buffalo 62
Florida 60
Detroit 60
Tampa 58

It's good to dream....

- stashu


Just beat the Laffs.
Tank, tank, tank
Sell, Sell , sell
Take advantage of teams exposure for the Expansion Draft
Incent LV to take one of Moulson, Bogo, Ennis
Draft High
Sign an FA or 2.

oh ya, FIRE BYLSMA
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 9:19 AM ET
Definition of a young team
- IonSabres

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

According to this, as of now, we are the 5th youngest.

Interesting part, the 4 younger teams have more points than we do.

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 6 @ 9:19 AM ET
They've been good against the west, so here's hoping that continues (that's 3 of the 5), and then NJ and Toronto. Not extreme reaches to say they can beat them, just gotta hope the good side of this Jekyll/Hyde team comes to play this week.
- stashu


Since December we have learned that when they play North Hockey they are capable of playing with any team in the league, but that the weakness of the defense is just too much for the strength of the offense to offset. Interestingly, with Kulikov and Gorges* healthy, back in the lineup, and properly slotted, the defense has looked pretty good.

Maybe we see start to see a lot more of Hyde and a lot less of Jekyl.






* I know, I know.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 9:22 AM ET
Just beat the Laffs.
Tank, tank, tank
Sell, Sell , sell
Take advantage of teams exposure for the Expansion Draft
Incent LV to take one of Moulson, Bogo, Ennis
Draft High
Sign an FA or 2.

oh ya, FIRE BYLSMA

- IonSabres



and do a stealthy tank with dignity.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
Since December we have learned that when they play North Hockey they are capable of playing with any team in the league, but that the weakness of the defense is just too much for the strength of the offense to offset. Interestingly, with Kulikov and Gorges* healthy, back in the lineup, and properly slotted, the defense has looked pretty good.

Maybe we see start to see a lot more of Hyde and a lot less of Jekyl.

* I know, I know.

- Der Kaiser


Jek was entertaining though
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 6 @ 9:28 AM ET
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

According to this, as of now, we are the 5th youngest.

Interesting part, the 4 younger teams have more points than we do.

- sbroads24


Did any of those 4 teams lose their star player for 1/4 of the season along with half the blueline?

I know that typically you can't use injuries as an excuse, but I'd have to think that while we might not be a ton better in the standings, there would at least have been more consistency from one game to the next overall, which would probably translate into some sort of improvement in the standings.
SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Feb 6 @ 9:30 AM ET
I'll be happy if we take 1 of the 2 against the Sharks and Ducks....we should beat the Devils....and EFF the Leafs!
- feetontheair22


Devils will give them a thorough spanking.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 9:30 AM ET
Did any of those 4 teams lose their star player for 1/4 of the season along with half the blueline?

I know that typically you can't use injuries as an excuse, but I'd have to think that while we might not be a ton better in the standings, there would at least have been more consistency from one game to the next overall, which would probably translate into some sort of improvement in the standings.

- HonkFortheGoose


have we actually gotten more consistency since he's been back?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 9:31 AM ET
Did any of those 4 teams lose their star player for 1/4 of the season along with half the blueline?

I know that typically you can't use injuries as an excuse, but I'd have to think that while we might not be a ton better in the standings, there would at least have been more consistency from one game to the next overall, which would probably translate into some sort of improvement in the standings.

- HonkFortheGoose

Winnipeg has had a pretty rough go of it.

I think the injuries are a valid excuse for some of it.

I think the "were young" was never an excuse to be honest.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 6 @ 9:32 AM ET
have we actually gotten more consistency since he's been back?
- Sabresfan-365


You're only looking at one part of the equation. I also mentioned the defensive injuries, and we're yet to have them fully healthy with Jack in the lineup as well.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
Winnipeg has had a pretty rough go of it.

I think the injuries are a valid excuse for some of it.

I think the "were young" was never an excuse to be honest.

- sbroads24


I don't know that Winnipeg can be counted as having a better year than us right now. Yes, they're ahead of us points wise, but they've played 55 games and have 54 points. We've played 51 games and have 52 points. So based on PPG, we're ahead of them.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
You're only looking at one part of the equation. I also mentioned the defensive injuries, and we're yet to have them fully healthy with Jack in the lineup as well.
- HonkFortheGoose



you mean the ones where gorges got hurt and was replaced by a far better fedun? The drop off in talent/production between our 2nd pair and ahl call ups sadly isnt that far off.


you could make the argument that our 3rd most talented defencemen currently plays in the chl.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 6 @ 9:40 AM ET
In Goals per game, Eichel is tied for 21st in the NHL (tied with Tavares, Kadri and Hoffman).

That ranks better than some good players:

McDavid
Seguin
Kessel
Kane (the really good one)

There are some oddities on the list ahead of him:

Oshie - 19 goals already this season when that's pretty much his career average
Kreider - already tied with his career high of 21 goals, which he ended each of the last 2 seasons with
Grabner - 23 already, after scoring 29 total in the last 3 seasons (178 games)

And this is in a drought by Eichl who only has 4 goals in his last 13 games (two games in that span he scored twice in each)

He just misses the top 50 in points/game - 50th is .788, Jack has .767
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 9:42 AM ET
In Goals per game, Eichel is tied for 21st in the NHL (tied with Tavares, Kadri and Hoffman).

That ranks better than some good players:

McDavid
Seguin
Kessel
Kane (the really good one)

There are some oddities on the list ahead of him:

Oshie - 19 goals already this season when that's pretty much his career average
Kreider - already tied with his career high of 21 goals, which he ended each of the last 2 seasons with
Grabner - 23 already, after scoring 29 total in the last 3 seasons (178 games)

And this is in a drought by Eichl who only has 4 goals in his last 13 games (two games in that span he scored twice in each)

He just misses the top 50 in points/game - 50th is .788, Jack has .767

- stashu



his chances created per 60 or whatever is beatiful. Its like a big damn just waiting to explode and turn into crazy production.
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