The most likely scenario is a team looking to add a player to put them in that true contender status, that is willing to give up quality youth and assets, willing to take on the remainder of the contract, and be able to fit him into their cap structure and agree to any other factors such as the Flyers retaining salary. The bottom line is a trade of Giroux would be very difficult to pull off.
- MJL

Yeah.

I thought Montreal because they could move a guy like Plekanec(6mil) who has been rumored to be moved for an upgrade. I think you could get back McCarron or Scherbak and maybe a 1st then.

we shouldve traded everyone during the 10 game win streak. their value was never going to be higher

Did tampas Jon cooper suddenly get stupid over the summer?

It's not just one issue. But the clearest one is they need better players.
- Just5

Even without Stamkos they have a much better roster than us, and yet only the Avs and Coyotes have a worse record.

It's bizarre to say the least.

hitchcock and Julien available
- Flyers Time

They were fired because their teams were doing too well, I believe.

Is it a foregone conclusion that Lindblom comes to NA next season? I mean, ya, the odds are pretty good, but he hasn't even signed a contract yet...
- Coleman

Yes. He can make much better money here than in the SHL.

They played a very solid first period. Aggressive on the forecheck, and got a number of pucks to the net, and some good scoring chances including a couple of second chance efforts. It was downhill offensively from there.
- MJL

That is the story the last few years.....play some good minutes , then fold the tent when things don't go your way. Be it the coach? be it the leadership group, that appears to be the common denominator? Bill made a good point...."Hextall's hand picked coach". so he's not going anywhere....not yet. I am fine with the whole patient thing but that doesn't mean Hextall has done a great job up to this point. It just means he is saying that the prospects he has drafted and kept are going to change the fortunes of the group going forward.

I think you just have to ask yourself a couple of simple questions. Why would Arizona be interested in a 29 year old center who appears to be past his prime and declining, who is signed to a long term contract? Why would they give up any quality young assets that it would take for the Flyers to trade Giroux? The answer in my opinion is obvious.
- MJL

I literally just explained how the main component would be landing Simmonds. Giroux may be 29 years old but he still is a 60 pt + player. That's important to a team looking for offense. They have a cupboard of prospects, and that doesn't necessarily mean in this deal they are moving a top one or several of them at all. Giroux is still a valuable player despite his recent struggles and signs of decline for us. As mentioned, it was all hyptothetical talk, no need to flex your GM expertise.

I literally just explained how the main component would be landing Simmonds. Giroux may be 29 years old but he still is a 60 pt + player. That's important to a team looking for offense. They have a cupboard of prospects, and that doesn't necessarily mean in this deal they are moving a top one or several of them at all. Giroux is still a valuable player despite his recent struggles and signs of decline for us. As mentioned, it was all hyptothetical talk, no need to flex your GM expertise.
- arichardson22

Giroux has a full no-movement. You honestly think he would want to go there for the back end of his career?

I get the idea of getting Simmonds in the deal.

No matter where you slot Couturier he is always probably going to see 2nd line minutes if he is playing against the top line.

I wouldn't move Voracek as he is one who can drive possession and create for you.

I pick Simmonds because not that I hate him but because he is someone that is on most attractive deal, has an attractive skill set and intangibles. But also he needs others around him. he isn't going to be a guy to really create for his line like Voracek or Giroux can.

Voracek and Giroux are tough moves because of the big cap hits they have. Yes the flyers were able to move the long term deals of carter and Richards but those cap hits were under 6 million.
- J35Bacher

I prefer

Voracek - Giroux - Simmonds

Then considering the Flyers have an abundance of good Dmen. Perhaps sell one off for one of the Avs big 3. That gives the Flyers some flexibility with their 2nd line. Duchene and Mackinnon both can play RW or Center if Couturier is bumped to line 3. This also adds some talent to PP2 which is dreadful and the reason why they get only 30 seconds per PP. Flyers then can do their best to sell the likes of Streit, MDZ, Shultz, AMac, Read ect. Keyword "do their best"

With the rumours with Bishop, I would stay away. I cant see him doing any better with the Flyers than he has done with Tampa or Mason or Neuvirth have done in Philly. Plus he isn't too young anymore either.

Team posted 96 points last year and is playoff position (somehow) this season. Hakstol, for whatever his real and imagined flaws, isn't going to be fired. He gets at least one more season, especially since Hextall hand-picked him. Also, a change behind the bench isn't going to fix the personnel issues any more than the change from Chief to Hakstol. The team ideally needs an entire additional scoring line and for their young Dmen to mature fast (with Gostisbehere returning to his rookie form).
- bmeltzer

As much as it pains me to say, due to the success of the last by Hakstol and because Hextall hand picked this guy, I also believe he won't be fired this year. A number of things frustrate me about this current situation outside of this losses. First, the success Hakstol experienced didn't really come until after Ghost was called up and soon after given a permanent spot. Also I'm within the belief that Hextall is doing Hakstol a favor by fast tracking him to the NHL because Hakstol coached Hextall's son. I understand this questions the integrity of our GM but from the way Hakstol uses Vandevelde, the situations seem to go hand and hand. I mean, which would prefer, A coach who worked his way up through the ranks by at least seeing minor league coaching time or what we're seeing today? What sucks most is, Hitch and Julian are out there and the Flyers won't take advantage.

The most likely scenario is a team looking to add a player to put them in that true contender status, that is willing to give up quality youth and assets, willing to take on the remainder of the contract, and be able to fit him into their cap structure and agree to any other factors such as the Flyers retaining salary. The bottom line is a trade of Giroux would be very difficult to pull off.
- MJL

Just look at the Phil Kessel trade as your best case scenario here, which I think it would be. Is this deal really going to help the Flyers the next 3-5 years vs the chance Giroux has plenty of good hockey left?

Flyers retain 1.5 million in Salary(probably more)

Conditional 1st round pick
Quality prospect but not a blue chip(Kapanen)
Struggling depth forward(Spaling)
Struggling prospect(Harrington)

What intangibles? He is part of the same "core" that is apparently to blame because issues have remained through 3 coaches.
- YuenglingJagr

When you say Philadelphia Flyers you envision a player like Wayne.

1) Tough as nails.
2) Can score
3) Goes to the front of the net and is willing to stay there. (most of the rest of the core go there and just pass through)
4) willing to raise his voice when officials screw them.

I prefer

Voracek - Giroux - Simmonds

Then considering the Flyers have an abundance of good Dmen. Perhaps sell one off for one of the Avs big 3. That gives the Flyers some flexibility with their 2nd line. Duchene and Mackinnon both can play RW or Center if Couturier is bumped to line 3. This also adds some talent to PP2 which is dreadful and the reason why they get only 30 seconds per PP. Flyers then can do their best to sell the likes of Streit, MDZ, Shultz, AMac, Read ect. Keyword "do their best"

With the rumours with Bishop, I would stay away. I cant see him doing any better with the Flyers than he has done with Tampa or Mason or Neuvirth have done in Philly. Plus he isn't too young anymore either.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That's a lot of forwards on big money deals. Resigning simmonds would be damn near impossible in that scenario

They were fired because their teams were doing too well, I believe.
- Feanor

Cup winning Coaches never get fired.

Also I'm within the belief that Hextall is doing Hakstol a favor by fast tracking him to the NHL because Hakstol coached Hextall's son.

It makes perfect sense that Hextall would risk his own job and the well being of the entire Flyers organization to hire the coach his son played under in 2011.

You played my son regularly in college hockey five years ago, so he's a $10,000,000 NHL coaching contract to say thank you.

- Streit2ThePoint

Cup winning Coaches never get fired.
- SuperSchennBros

Hitch won the Cup back in 1999. What about his performance this season as coach of a Blues team with superior talent to the current Flyers squad makes you think he would be an improvement right now?

When you say Philadelphia Flyers you envision a player like Wayne.

1) Tough as nails.
2) Can score
3) Goes to the front of the net and is willing to stay there. (most of the rest of the core go there and just pass through)
4) willing to raise his voice when officials screw them.
- dragonoffrost

so he is part of the core...just not the part that is to blame?

so he is part of the core...just not the part that is to blame?
- YuenglingJagr

Yes

Konecny dead

I literally just explained how the main component would be landing Simmonds. Giroux may be 29 years old but he still is a 60 pt + player. That's important to a team looking for offense. They have a cupboard of prospects, and that doesn't necessarily mean in this deal they are moving a top one or several of them at all. Giroux is still a valuable player despite his recent struggles and signs of decline for us. As mentioned, it was all hyptothetical talk, no need to flex your GM expertise.
- arichardson22

They aren't going to do it for Simmonds either. Think about what kind of package of youth, picks, and prospects it would take to get the Flyers to trade both? Is offense the only criteria Arizona would be looking for? What does that do for them, make them a playoff team? Hypothetically speaking, it doesn't make any sense for Arizona. Trust me, no GM expertise was needed to come to this conclusion.

Hitch won the Cup back in 1999. What about his performance this season as coach of a Blues team with superior talent to the current Flyers squad makes you think he would be an improvement right now?
- Feanor

Hatch has a track record of turning teams around. He's also has been called upon to be apart of Team Canada's coaching staff because of his track record. His structure and coaching style has once changed and left an impact on the Philadelphia Flyers. One of two coaches to do so in the past 15 seasons. Hitch was with the Blues for six seasons. You might want to ask yourself, is Hitch leaving the Blues in a better state than he joined them?

From my understanding, Hitch expressed wanting out before getting fired, hints Mike Yeo.

Giroux has a full no-movement. You honestly think he would want to go there for the back end of his career?

I get the idea of getting Simmonds in the deal.
- J35Bacher

Players have moved their no movements in the past, can happen again. Any trade would involve obviously removing Claude as captain. If management approached him and said we plan on stripping your captaincy in plan to trade you, do you think Claude would want to remain with the Flyers as a former captain? From all the insults I've read for weeks on Giroux about his leadership, character, effort etc here, why would Giroux be that gainst Arizona?

Yes
- dragonoffrost

Ahhhh...you see that is what doesn't add up to me. I think it is a little bit of a stretch to say Giroux is to blame for the repeated failures and Simmonds has nothing to do with it.