Carey's not going to get a top 6 role in the NHL. He's a career AHLer like Brennan. Weal, Laughton and Leier don't have his booming shot, but they are all better offensive players than Carey. - Feanor
I don't know.
Patrick Sharp wasn't a superstar in the minors from what I recall. The one thing Carey has done is score goals in the minors.
It wouldn't just end up being this season though. It would be several.
It hurts me to type that but in reality, holding on to some of these guys in their latter twenties is just depreciating assets with no substantial return. It could take a decade to retool drafting 11-20 every season. - mayorofangrytown
Should have could have would have, but imagine if we did this right when Hexy took over. If we flipped Giroux, Jake, and one of Couts/Simmonds, we could have had several draft picks in the 1st rounds from the last two drafts. all while our team's draft picks being in the lottery with a rebuilding roster.
Great post Bill. My GM "hat" is on. I don't believe goaltending is our biggest issue. Micheal Leighton took us to final in 2010. Team d is key. No one down with Phantoms can help with scoring immediately. I'd trade Streit for draft pick and whatever else we could get. That clears cap space. I'd package another dman (Manning, Schultz, Mac- God please!!) not necessarily a prospect (Hagg, Morin, Sanheim, Myers) with one of our "3rd line at best" forwards (Schenn, Coots, Raffl, Read, Cousins, Laughton, etc) and try and get some offensive firepower like Duchene, Draistail, Eberle, RNH, etc. Forget anyone older than 26-27 years old (not sure Tatar is answer). Our d prospects will be ready next season and season after. Our forward prospects are still a year + away (Lindblom and 2 Russians). We don't have a true 2nd line center and, right now, in my opinion, we have no scoring threat. Simmonds to me is untouchable as is Provorov. G and Jake need to step up and be our best players. Kocnecy needs time but has shown promise. Ghost needs to run our PP. I love our 4th line but they are expandable (unfortunately). - cdearth23
Brayden Schenn is a 25 goal 50-60 point player. I'm not sure in what league that constitutes a "3rd line at best" player.
My issue with Ghost being scratched (besides the whole multiple games thing) is that whenever he is inserted back into the lineup, he is stapled to the same dogpoop partner. If he has defensive issues, why pair him with a Manning or Del Zotto when they have had issues this year as well.
Why not try him with Provorov who can mask some of his deficiencies, or another play driver like Gudas where both will spend a lot of time driving offense. - TobyFlenderson
Provorov plays top minutes against top lines. Not a good idea to put a player who is struggling as bad as Gostisbehere is, in that situation.
It's not perfect but I am not sure Schenn in the middle is what's needed. With Laughton playing with confidence in the AHL maybe it's time to see if he can handle 3rd line center duties.
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The point is a 55-60 point player is a second line player in today's NHL - dragonoffrost
The point is 5v5 (aka what line you're actually on), and PP points are two entirely different categories. It's very possible to be a top 6 forward at 5v5 and not get much PP time to bring your points down. Or to be a mediocre 5v5 player but get a huge PP boost.
I just love that Ghost is a 3rd pair PP specialist, and called that even before his slump this year.......but that logic doesn't apply to a forward like Schenn. Is Sam Gagner a top line forward pacing for 56 points? Because he plays on the 4th line.
It's not perfect but I am not sure Schenn in the middle is what's needed. With Laughton playing with confidence in the AHL maybe it's time to see if he can handle 3rd line center duties. - J35Bacher
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Feb 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
The point is a 55-60 point player is a second line player in today's NHL - dragonoffrost
According to last year's numbers, 55-60 points puts you in the 41-67 range of scoring. That's low end top line or high end 2nd line.
In regards to Schenn, it's misleading because he accumulates a disproportionate amount of points on the PP compared to most guys. He's also a mess defensively, so it's hard to play him big minutes at even strength. He and Simmonds are both more specialists than all around great players.
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Feb 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
According to last year's numbers, 55-60 points puts you in the 41-67 range of scoring. That's low end top line or high end 2nd line.
In regards to Schenn, it's misleading because he accumulates a disproportionate amount of points on the PP compared to most guys. He's also a mess defensively, so it's hard to play him big minutes at even strength. He and Simmonds are both more specialists than all around great players. - PhillySportsGuy
Second line away from Coots who can be 3C and eat lots of minutes.
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