Refresh my memory .. who is expiring ?
- fastek

Fossil, foligno RFA? ,Gus RFA , Kulikov , Franson , Fedun

- BeadyEyedDouche

Oops
I'm on my phone
Must have typed too fast

The off ice stuff will NEVER be a factor unless it happens again.
- fastek

I'd argue it wouldn't be a factor even if it did.

Fossil, foligno RFA? ,Gus RFA , Kulikov , Franson , Fedun
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Except the token 20 game injury or the first 12 games when he didn't score a goal.


Not just you, but the short term memories here are astounding.
- sbroads24

Name a player who hasn't had a 12 game goal drought ever.

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Brian Gionta

Name a player who hasn't had a 12 game goal drought ever.
- fastek

Super Mario? I know Gretzky has.

The off ice stuff will NEVER be a factor unless it happens again.
- fastek

lol.

Not mad, at all. I think Kane has had a helluva few months.

If I'm a betting man, I'm betting the house it doesn't last before the next surgery or off ice issue
- sbroads24

It's a Black thing with you I'm pretty certain .............

Romo is horrible, why do people keep thinking that he's not. He will get killed here in 2-3 games.
- SABRES 89

1) he's injury prone, not horrible
2) the decision hasn't been made yet
3) whoever is our QB next year, we won't be thrilled about

UFA QB's

Kirk Cousins 85.9 QB 29 Redskins 1047 UFA
Brian Hoyer 80.6 QB 31 Bears 311 UFA
Matt Barkley 73.1 QB 26 Bears 409 UFA
Mike Glennon 69.0 QB 27 Buccaneers 15 UFA
Geno Smith 67.5 QB 26 Jets 33 UFA
Shaun Hill 66.5 QB 37 Vikings 70 UFA
Matt Schaub 64.8 QB 36 Falcons 19 UFA
Kellen Clemens 61.7 QB 34 Chargers 3 UFA
David Fales 61.3 QB 26 Bears 9 RFA
Ryan Mallett 55.7 QB 29 Ravens 18 UFA
Landry Jones 49.9 QB 28 Steelers 156 UFA
Matt Cassel 49.8 QB 35 Titans 96 UFA
Case Keenum 49.6 QB 29 Rams 589 UFA
Matthew McGloin 49.5 QB 27 Raiders 36 UFA
E.J. Manuel 47.8 QB 27 Bills 77 UFA
Mark Sanchez 47.1 QB 30 Cowboys 37 UFA
Blaine Gabbert 39.0 QB 27 49ers 342 UFA
Dan Orlovsky N/A QB 34 Lions 0 UFA
Joshua Johnson N/A QB 31 Giants 0 UFA
T.J. Yates N/A QB 30 Dolphins 0 UFA
Thaddeus Lewis N/A QB 29 49ers 0 UFA
Christian Ponder N/A QB 29 49ers 0 UFA
Kellen Moore N/A QB 28 Cowboys 0 UFA
Ryan A. Griffin N/A QB 27 Buccaneers 0 RFA
Ryan Nassib N/A QB 27 Giants 0 UFA
Tony Jefferson 88.6 S 25 Cardinals 930 UFA
Eric Berry 87.8 S 28 Chiefs 1085 UFA
John Cyprien 87.8 S 27 Jaguars 1071 UFA
Barry Church 86.2 S 29 Cowboys 674 UFA
D.J. Swearinger 86.1 S

The Sabres can barely score either on most nights and Eichel needs wingers to play with not Foligno long term, that just stifles our greatest asset, and that is dumb. Get a D but do it with other assets, not wingers which we are light on as well.
- GilPerreault11

Post of the day right here .............

UFA QB's

Kirk Cousins 85.9 QB 29 Redskins 1047 UFA
Brian Hoyer 80.6 QB 31 Bears 311 UFA
Matt Barkley 73.1 QB 26 Bears 409 UFA
Mike Glennon 69.0 QB 27 Buccaneers 15 UFA
Geno Smith 67.5 QB 26 Jets 33 UFA
Shaun Hill 66.5 QB 37 Vikings 70 UFA
Matt Schaub 64.8 QB 36 Falcons 19 UFA
Kellen Clemens 61.7 QB 34 Chargers 3 UFA
David Fales 61.3 QB 26 Bears 9 RFA
Ryan Mallett 55.7 QB 29 Ravens 18 UFA
Landry Jones 49.9 QB 28 Steelers 156 UFA
Matt Cassel 49.8 QB 35 Titans 96 UFA
Case Keenum 49.6 QB 29 Rams 589 UFA
Matthew McGloin 49.5 QB 27 Raiders 36 UFA
E.J. Manuel 47.8 QB 27 Bills 77 UFA
Mark Sanchez 47.1 QB 30 Cowboys 37 UFA
Blaine Gabbert 39.0 QB 27 49ers 342 UFA
Dan Orlovsky N/A QB 34 Lions 0 UFA
Joshua Johnson N/A QB 31 Giants 0 UFA
T.J. Yates N/A QB 30 Dolphins 0 UFA
Thaddeus Lewis N/A QB 29 49ers 0 UFA
Christian Ponder N/A QB 29 49ers 0 UFA
Kellen Moore N/A QB 28 Cowboys 0 UFA
Ryan A. Griffin N/A QB 27 Buccaneers 0 RFA
Ryan Nassib N/A QB 27 Giants 0 UFA
Tony Jefferson 88.6 S 25 Cardinals 930 UFA
Eric Berry 87.8 S 28 Chiefs 1085 UFA
John Cyprien 87.8 S 27 Jaguars 1071 UFA
Barry Church 86.2 S 29 Cowboys 674 UFA
D.J. Swearinger 86.1 S
- 22sabresQ

I'll take that Eric Berry dude

It's a Black thing with you I'm pretty certain .............
- fastek

I honestly think that's the main issue with the guy.

Doughty was accused of rape at least one time. Max contract.

Patty Kane has been a scuz(frank) for years. People would line up to blow him if he were a Sabre.

Others as well.

Jarret Stoll got busted with a serious amount of drugs on him, as did Mike Richards. Both got a second chance where if it were just a joe shmo, he'd still be in prison.

right, but we don't.... as i stated earlier GMTM obviously needs to figure out his intentions for the future with the team.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

GMTM already knows what he wants to do .......... he doesn't need to figure out anything.

GMTM already knows what he wants to do .......... he doesn't need to figure out anything.
- fastek

Except our coaching situation...

1) he's injury prone, not horrible
2) the decision hasn't been made yet
3) whoever is our QB next year, we won't be thrilled about
- jdfitz77[/quote]

Ain't that the truth the schedule next year is brutal lol

Depending on who's the QB I think we only win 3 games that year

It's a Black thing with you I'm pretty certain .............
- fastek

That can't be true he didn't vote for Trump ( stirs pot)

GMTM already knows what he wants to do .......... he doesn't need to figure out anything.
- fastek

I think the Blackhawks game we'll decide what he's going to do IMO

If I was him I would start selling off my assets now but that's just me

I run a business and I when I make decisions, it is based on being objective and not emotional. As it relates to Kane, I supported him the day after the NHL draft (bar) incident when many on this board wanted to send him packing for a bag of Cheetos. Even when he came back from his injury and wasn't producing, I was in the camp of not selling low on Kane, that would be foolish.

Today, things are different. He is playing the best hockey of his tenure in Buffalo. Everyone loves him on the ice and he is keeping his nose clean off the ice which is awesome. At the same time, the Sabres glaring weakness is their lack of quality D. Perhaps more important they lack quality in the pipeline who are NHL impact ready. I am of the opinion that Murray should listen to any and all offers for Kane. If he gets an offer that blows him away - he would be crazy not to take it.

I agree with Gerbe and others who suggest that Buffalo (and Winnipeg) are not his kind of cities. Of course I could be completely wrong and he loves it in Buffalo and will re-sign at a reasonable price. But it's not like he's going backwards on his annual salary. It will cost somewhere in the $6+ range to re-sign him. If Buffalo won't, who doesn't think some other team in free agency wouldn't offer him $6 mil per year?

We have a number of young wingers coming up (Bailey, Baptiste, Carrier etc) who can step in at a fraction of the cost of Kane's salary and fill his role, albeit at a lower production rate. If Kane can get us a stud defencemen, I would be all over it. As I said earlier, it's not like we have a plethora of good d-man in the system.

Lastly, can you imagine the rage on this board one year from now or in June 2018 if Murray got nothing - or virtually nothing for Kane because: 1) he had another off ice incident, 2) he was out for half the year with a broken "X", 3) he doesn't re-sign in Buffalo. Yikes! Team's always pay more for players if they can get 2 playoffs out of them vs 1. His stock has never been higher than it is now.

I hope Murray is listening. If he gets blown away then he should pull the trigger on a trade for Kane. And this is coming from a Kane supporter. If there's no great deals to be had, then I will be happy he remains as a Sabre - hopefully for many years to come.
- SabreWest

Which results in us remaining in the same spot we are now .......... outside looking in. You build around guys like Kane with those young pieces you mentioned ...... not subtract Kane and then "hope" the youngsters amount to something.

Which results in us remaining in the same spot we are now .......... outside looking in. You build around guys like Kane with those young pieces you mentioned ...... not subtract Kane and then "hope" the youngsters amount to something.
- fastek

No you build around guys like Sam ,jack, risto

those two we have to sign that's why you trade him for defensive help

And what happens if we're in the playoffs next year? They certainly aren't going to move him teams usually don't do that
- GERBE!!!75PTS

If they make the playoffs next year Kane will be a huge reason why. But yeah trade him anyways ........... the thought of him getting into another bar scrum is simply too much to bear.

If they make the playoffs next year Kane will be a huge reason why. But yeah trade him anyways ........... the thought of him getting into another bar scrum is simply too much to bear.
- fastek

The thought of losing him in free agency for nothing is more in the back of my mind

Only way I'd trade Kane is if I was getting a defenseman like Martinez, Muzzin, Brodin, etc. back.

This team is thin at both LW and D, but I'd rather solidify my D.
- CaptainRivet

I see it, Rivet.

All these other idiots are too busy talking hockey.

It's a Black thing with you I'm pretty certain .............
- fastek

I'm definitely racist. That's exactly why I have been clamoring for Bailey to be here.