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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:17 AM ET
I want the Canucks to be a great team, I don't want Horvat to be the number one center on a third last place team....that was my point.
- LeftCoaster



For a guy that preaches patience you sure don't have a lot


Remember this is his third year. I am sure he will get better and better
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:18 AM ET
Oh here we go... you got crushed last time you were beating this drum about all the changes being jarvis. You didn't know which coaches were responsible for wich tasks so you pulled this phantom interview out of nowhere...

- boonerbuck

I did NOT get crushed, what the hell? The phantom beating you speak of...that never existed

I DID know which were responsible for what, and you cannot prove otherwise.

I was simply sharing what I'd seen in the TV interview with others here and this is the crap I get from you.

chill bro.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 13 @ 1:22 AM ET
For a guy that preaches patience you sure don't have a lot


Remember this is his third year. I am sure he will get better and better

- VANTEL

You're missing the point entirely, my comments were "hand the team over to Horvat", in other words get rid of the Sedins and Burrows. Draft another center and let them grow together. Continue to build.

I don't understand what my comments have to do with hurrying up? They don't suggest anything of the sort.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:28 AM ET
You're missing the point entirely, my comments were "hand the team over to Horvat", in other words get rid of the Sedins and Burrows. Draft another center and let them grow together. Continue to build.

I don't understand what my comments have to do with hurrying up? They don't suggest anything of the sort.

- LeftCoaster


I'm not missing the point. There are fans here that the grass is always greener on the other teams.

I think Eichel is one year behind Bo and I hardly seen him out there tonight where bo was very noticeable.

I know this is a bad comparison but Bo has one less goal than McDavid. He has about twenty less assists but he hasn't been playing with Eberle and Maroon either.

I am sure when Bo is playing with Boeser and a top forward his numbers will be much better.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 13 @ 1:39 AM ET
I'm not missing the point. There are fans here that the grass is always greener on the other teams.

I think Eichel is one year behind Bo and I hardly seen him out there tonight where bo was very noticeable.

I know this is a bad comparison but Bo has one less goal than McDavid. He has about twenty less assists but he hasn't been playing with Eberle and Maroon either.

I am sure when Bo is playing with Boeser and a top forward his numbers will be much better.

- VANTEL

yup you totally missed it!
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:41 AM ET
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of trading him
- CanuckDon


his ankle needs an offseason to heal. its going to be a trying year for him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 1:45 AM ET
yup you totally missed it!
- LeftCoaster

What did I miss . You think he could be a center on a mid ranked team. That is not rocket science what you are saying.


You are missing the point I am telling you you are dead wrong. . He is a third year all star .

He is in the shadow of two aging players that an organization is letting bow out gracefully . Once he has top talent on the team and not third liners that are being awarded top line minutes you will see what he can do.

Again for a guy preaching patience you should try taking your own advice.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 1:55 AM ET
We did get two of them for a 2nd and prospect.

If Benning were to seriously consider Tanev to BUF, I'd have to hope he asking for some combination of 1st rounder, Nylander etc.

Kane is nothing put an overpaid, one dimensional stop gap.
Buffalo would be getting the better player, on a better contract...

- Whiskey-Tango


good point.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:12 AM ET
People forget that when Sedins came here they were labelled as slow and soft. We forget they only peaked in their ninth year. In their third year they were labelled busts and Sisters.

Maybe we should wait for Bo to hit 6 or 7 years before we label him a third line center. So far his numbers are ahead of Hanks in his early years.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:30 AM ET
Bold? It's just common knowledge, great teams have really good centers.
- LeftCoaster

He is a really good center you numbskull
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:31 AM ET
People forget that when Sedins came here they were labelled as slow and soft. We forget they only peaked in their ninth year. In their third year they were labelled busts and Sisters.

Maybe we should wait for Bo to hit 6 or 7 years before we label him a third line center. So far his numbers are ahead of Hanks in his early years.

- VANTEL


he's looking like a real good #2. But you can't say he won't be a #1. time will tell. all i know is a Horvat, Hisch/Patrick 1/2 would solve our problems at C.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:31 AM ET
His first three years numbers are better than Hanks
- VANTEL

Bingo. I find it absurd many here limit Bo to 2nd line center. It's a (frank)ing joke
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:33 AM ET
Jarvis.
- Marwood


Jarvis is starting to make a difference with special teams, it's taken long enough though.

Willie has the team fighting to the end every game, regardless of the assumptions that some think that Jarvis has changed the culture, BS, WD is responsible.

But regardless of that, I'm still thinking top 5 pick
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:37 AM ET
Indeed...I'm not sure if the Canucks played well...or buffalo is alot worse then I thought they were
- Bullfrog77


Buffalo sucks but IMO canucks played above themselves, Buffalo has better talent that didn't show tonight
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:42 AM ET
Bingo. I find it absurd many here limit Bo to 2nd line center. It's a (frank)ing joke
- CanuckDon

People forget Henriks start.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:45 AM ET
Jarvis is starting to make a difference with special teams, it's taken long enough though.

Willie has the team fighting to the end every game, regardless of the assumptions that some think that Jarvis has changed the culture, BS, WD is responsible.

But regardless of that, I'm still thinking top 5 pick

- Makita

personally I think the team leaders are responsible for the new push in intensity of play. Team unity
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:46 AM ET
People forget Henriks start.
- VANTEL


i don't think they do. can't label him a #1. but you for sure can't say he can't be.......

which is probably what your saying haha.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 13 @ 2:48 AM ET
no He is also officially responsible for neutral zone play.
But JB in a TV interview said Jarvis made changes in several areas including D. And it shows. JB said he did a great job with getting the players to understand the new D system.
Jarvis deserves this credit not WD or lidster. THose guys did ZERO for changes for 2 full seasons so they deserve ZERO credit

glad JB decided to bring in someone who is capable of making these changes

- SMBDragon


Is there any chance that you have a link to this interview? I have searched but only come up with Jarvis has special teams. I would like to credit the appropriate people but until there is definitive proof I think WD gets credit for anything not special teams oriented, that's where Jarvis gets credit and criticism, Lidster is defense, Maholtra is faceoffs.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 13 @ 3:20 AM ET
Is there any chance that you have a link to this interview? I have searched but only come up with Jarvis has special teams. I would like to credit the appropriate people but until there is definitive proof I think WD gets credit for anything not special teams oriented, that's where Jarvis gets credit and criticism, Lidster is defense, Maholtra is faceoffs.
- Makita

Well to be fair , in the Boston game during the time out with the goalie pulled the cameras showed Jarvis drawing up the face off play . Willie was standing well back and had no input to the play call that I could see.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:27 AM ET
Is there any chance that you have a link to this interview? I have searched but only come up with Jarvis has special teams. I would like to credit the appropriate people but until there is definitive proof I think WD gets credit for anything not special teams oriented, that's where Jarvis gets credit and criticism, Lidster is defense, Maholtra is faceoffs.
- Makita

Makita honestly Im really not too sure how to go about finding that kind of stuff. It was something I saw and felt it was interesting. I've tried to recall what network it was that did the interview but I cannot. It was probably not tsn as I havent watched a game on tsn in ages. Likely sportsnet Id say. Maybe someone else on here remembers what network it was on ? It a few months back...maybe november.

remember it was clarified by many on here his official job description is special teams AND neutral zone play. Malhotra is faceoffs, systems integration and helps with PK.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:30 AM ET
Well to be fair , in the Boston game during the time out with the goalie pulled the cameras showed Jarvis drawing up the face off play . Willie was standing well back and had no input to the play call that I could see.
- Bullfrog77

exactly, he's a strategist and WD isnt in any way.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 13 @ 7:33 AM ET
http://ohlprospects.blogs...-top-10-for-2017.html?m=1

Really good read on OHL players.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 13 @ 8:36 AM ET
Well to be fair , in the Boston game during the time out with the goalie pulled the cameras showed Jarvis drawing up the face off play . Willie was standing well back and had no input to the play call that I could see.
- Bullfrog77



So who decided to keep Bo and Granlund, the hot hands, off the ice?

I'm still of the opinion, that no matter what happens coaching wise, it's the HC that gets all the credit and blame. WD's responsibility is to control and use all the coaching tools under him.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:46 AM ET
So who decided to keep Bo and Granlund, the hot hands, off the ice?

I'm still of the opinion, that no matter what happens coaching wise, it's the HC that gets all the credit and blame. WD's responsibility is to control and use all the coaching tools under him.

- Nuck4U

WD is to keep his job and win games. He isn't going to try new things. Probably will now but it's too late.
I think that WD will be fired this year. FA wasn't going to pay 3 coaches. Torts 4 year contract will be over this year and WD only have 1 season left.
Bullfrog77
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 02.18.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:07 AM ET
WD is to keep his job and win games. He isn't going to try new things. Probably will now but it's too late.
I think that WD will be fired this year. FA wasn't going to pay 3 coaches. Torts 4 year contract will be over this year and WD only have 1 season left.

- manvanfan

Ummm...they stopped paying torts when he became the blue jackets coach
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