As for contracts in the NHL they r guaranteed.
Its GM's who r the culprits when it comes to contracts & it always has been.

I can't believe Bo has 100 points. He just got here.
- Beatle_john

Ummm...three years ago

Best ever.

#no-argument
- LordHumungous

I think there's a massive arguement to be made.

First of all, back then goalies were tiny, even with gear on, most didnt wear masks!! Scoring was WAY easier. Watch any old highlights, the goalies were like pylons. I recently re-watched some Summit Series games, even Dryden (who was considered a legend) looked like they grabbed some drunk, locksmith off the street and threw him in net, it was beyond pathetic.

Secondly, there were 12-16 teams, competition was nothing like it is nowadays. The game changes so much even from decade to the next. Some players back in late 60's, early 70's had day jobs!!! Its like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest of all time - its nuts, he was the greatest of HIS time, half the time he was hammered, yet he was facing some dude that just got off work in a coal mine and then headed over to the game to pitch. It was a joke.

Theres no doubt that Orr was a special player but to call him the best ever is hard to swallow. Put it this way, if Burns, Doughty, Weber were playing back then they'd destroy everyone, if Orr was playing now, i don't think he'd stick out. Different game, worlds apart. Incomparable.

Trust me Bullfrog. We definitely want Nico. He would be ranked number 1 if he was Canadian. Going to be a star

Henrik vs Bo' s first three years in the NHL


Hank

9 20 29
16 20 36
8 31 39

Bo

13 12 25
16 24 40
16 20 36 and counting

Henrik vs Bo' s first three years in the NHL


Hank

9 20 29
16 20 36
8 31 39

Bo

13 12 25
16 24 40
16 20 36 and counting
- VANTEL

So he is a bust?

I think there's a massive arguement to be made.

First of all, back then goalies were tiny, even with gear on, most didnt wear masks!! Scoring was WAY easier. Watch any old highlights, the goalies were like pylons. I recently re-watched some Summit Series games, even Dryden (who was considered a legend) looked like they grabbed some drunk, locksmith off the street and threw him in net, it was beyond pathetic.

Secondly, there were 12-16 teams, competition was nothing like it is nowadays. The game changes so much even from decade to the next. Some players back in late 60's, early 70's had day jobs!!! Its like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest of all time - its nuts, he was the greatest of HIS time, half the time he was hammered, yet he was facing some dude that just got off work in a coal mine and then headed over to the game to pitch. It was a joke.

Theres no doubt that Orr was a special player but to call him the best ever is hard to swallow. Put it this way, if Burns, Doughty, Weber were playing back then they'd destroy everyone, if Orr was playing now, i don't think he'd stick out. Different game, worlds apart. Incomparable.
- Brooks_Light

I agree . Sidney Crosby is probably the best hockey player ever to play but he was not the most dominant.

Gretzky has admitted many times today's players are way better than players of his era.

So he is a bust?
- CanuckDon

If he was a Swede he would be

Trust me Bullfrog. We definitely want Nico. He would be ranked number 1 if he was Canadian. Going to be a star
- CanuckDon

I like Nolan for his size and getting compared to Getzlaf, havent really been tracking them tho because didnt think van would drop, does Nico look that much better?

I agree . Sidney Crosby is probably the best hockey player ever to play but he was not the most dominant.

Gretzky has admitted many times today's players are way better than players of his era.
- VANTEL

I'm seriously not discounting what those guys back in the 60s and 70s - it's just a different world now - I mean most of those guys drank and smoked between periods and the goalies were just soooo bad, and for good reasons - if you wore the gear they had you'd be terrified!!!

I think there's a massive arguement to be made.

First of all, back then goalies were tiny, even with gear on, most didnt wear masks!! Scoring was WAY easier. Watch any old highlights, the goalies were like pylons. I recently re-watched some Summit Series games, even Dryden (who was considered a legend) looked like they grabbed some drunk, locksmith off the street and threw him in net, it was beyond pathetic.

Secondly, there were 12-16 teams, competition was nothing like it is nowadays. The game changes so much even from decade to the next. Some players back in late 60's, early 70's had day jobs!!! Its like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest of all time - its nuts, he was the greatest of HIS time, half the time he was hammered, yet he was facing some dude that just got off work in a coal mine and then headed over to the game to pitch. It was a joke.

Theres no doubt that Orr was a special player but to call him the best ever is hard to swallow. Put it this way, if Burns, Doughty, Weber were playing back then they'd destroy everyone, if Orr was playing now, i don't think he'd stick out. Different game, worlds apart. Incomparable.
- Brooks_Light

Thats one side of the coin...

What was left out?

I'm seriously not discounting what those guys back in the 60s and 70s - it's just a different world now - I mean most of those guys drank and smoked between periods and the goalies were just soooo bad, and for good reasons - if you wore the gear they had you'd be terrified!!!
- Brooks_Light

Exactly.

Look at the enforcer Dave Semenko 6'2 Dave Shultz 6'1

Goalies and the equipment so much bigger .

The players these days bigger faster stronger

I like Nolan for his size and getting compared to Getzlaf, havent really been tracking them tho because didnt think van would drop, does Nico look that much better?
- phyllee

Nico is just a lot more skilled. Faster and better hands. Nico would be the most exciting player this team has had since Bure. Patrick is big and well rounded but he doesn't have any elite skills

Lousier squipment & sticks
Everyone was comparable then to their time
Eg weight rooms nutritionists trainers etc r of these times
Less opportunity with less teams for playing spots
He ragged the puck to kill penalties
He was all around & was tough & fought
He made evryone around him better
He carried a team every year like no other D in history
Rehab & surgeries were less advanced
Hockey was much rougher not like the pansy game it is today
If Gretzky says Howe was the greatest ever & ignores the eras he played in cuz u cannot compare then to now & can only consider how it was then for everyone.
If not for carving up knees before MRI's & arthroscopic surgery his career would've been longer. Btw is a Vancouver doctor who operated on Orr.


Give every player today all the same conditions & then decide.

Ummm...three years ago
- Bullfrog77

I have laundry over 3 years old. This guys is a baby!

I think there's a massive arguement to be made.

First of all, back then goalies were tiny, even with gear on, most didnt wear masks!! Scoring was WAY easier. Watch any old highlights, the goalies were like pylons. I recently re-watched some Summit Series games, even Dryden (who was considered a legend) looked like they grabbed some drunk, locksmith off the street and threw him in net, it was beyond pathetic.

Secondly, there were 12-16 teams, competition was nothing like it is nowadays. The game changes so much even from decade to the next. Some players back in late 60's, early 70's had day jobs!!! Its like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest of all time - its nuts, he was the greatest of HIS time, half the time he was hammered, yet he was facing some dude that just got off work in a coal mine and then headed over to the game to pitch. It was a joke.

Theres no doubt that Orr was a special player but to call him the best ever is hard to swallow. Put it this way, if Burns, Doughty, Weber were playing back then they'd destroy everyone, if Orr was playing now, i don't think he'd stick out. Different game, worlds apart. Incomparable.
- Brooks_Light

Things change between eras. Players had access to different tools like training, equipment and coaching development. The only fair comparison with the different conditions is measuring how far ahead that player was among players of their time. Revolutionary players like Gretzky and Orr stand out because of how better they were in their time over other players, and what they did changed how the game was played. But taking a present day player, to compare one on one to a past era, is like saying Issac Newton was a moron because he didn't know Einstein's therory of relativity.

Really hoping you guys can turn things around and go on a bit of a tear. #drafting17

I like Nolan for his size and getting compared to Getzlaf, havent really been tracking them tho because didnt think van would drop, does Nico look that much better?
- phyllee

Odds are we won't get either.

I like Nolan for his size and getting compared to Getzlaf, havent really been tracking them tho because didnt think van would drop, does Nico look that much better?
- phyllee

Flip a coin. It seems to be an opinion thing. Partrick is averaging close to 2 points a game in the w, not an easy task. Then you factor he is coming off a nagging injury, id say he is my number 1. Seems like your comparing a Getzlaf type to a Datsyuk.

I just hope we end up with either one of them.

I don't trust Boeser's skating at the NHL level, he'll need to do some work over the summer. If we can see the same skating growth we saw from Bo in Boeser then I'm very happy.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'm not worried about him. Tough year for him injury wise and a young team at UND. What number will he wear here? He is currently 16 at UND......

Really hoping you guys can turn things around and go on a bit of a tear. #drafting17
- DuranDuran

Why would you think anybody gives a (frank) about your opinion?

Odds are we won't get either.
- dbot

well we are shaping up to finish 28th. So I guess we'll be picking 5th or 6th.

Vegas gets the 3rd best odds?

well we are shaping up to finish 28th. So I guess we'll be picking 5th or 6th.

Vegas gets the 3rd best odds?
- storm88

Nothing wrong with that

Flip a coin. It seems to be an opinion thing. Partrick is averaging close to 2 points a game in the w, not an easy task. Then you factor he is coming off a nagging injury, id say he is my number 1. Seems like your comparing a Getzlaf type to a Datsyuk.

I just hope we end up with either one of them.
- mauryballstein

Thanks to the weighted lotto and Vegas 3rd seeding may have same odds as making the playoffs.

Nothing wrong with that
- VANTEL

Draft day is most exciting day of the year for us. Coulda been a lot better last year