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samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
Let's take a quick objective look, shall we?

Foligno gets $2.25 MIL this year. He has 16 points...

Other forwards who have 16 points:

Artturi Lehkonen - $0.667 MIL

Alex Chiasson (actually 15 points) - $0.800 MIL

Scott Wilson - $0.590 MIL

Shane Prince - $0.800 MIL

Brandon Pirri - $1.100 MIL

Without Foligno's number in there, 16 points is averaging $0.79 MIL among these forwards...

Tell me if he is earning his keep...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
His speed is serviceable. he's a third of a ppg player who is third in the league in hits. He's exactly the kind of guy you need in the playoffs. Guys like him and Mike Grier excel in playoff type hockey
- jcragcrumple


Should he ever be on a line with a guy like Eichel? Probably not. Does he have a role that he plays that is useful to teams? Yes.

I've had 0 issues with Foligno's game this year. He's stood up for his teammates, has chipped in some goals, and has played a physical game all season. This is exactly the type of player I was hoping he'd be when we drafted him.

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:07 AM ET
Why is this such a surprise? What evidence is there that he is a good hockey player? He's getting $2.25 MIL per year to do what?
- samike007



He is a good 3/4 line player. He will probably end up with 12-15 goals and close to 25 points. He hits, fights and always gives 100%. Not sure what you are expecting from the guy, but I would hate to lose him.
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:07 AM ET
His speed is serviceable. he's a third of a ppg player who is third in the league in hits. He's exactly the kind of guy you need in the playoffs. Guys like him and Mike Grier excel in playoff type hockey
- jcragcrumple


LOL WUT? Speed? Does he use that speed to get to his point to prevent shots from the opponent's Dmen?

Nope.

Does he get back and hustle?

Nope.

Ohhhhh, you must have been referring to that speed he used when getting off the ice during the Canucks game that caused a too many men penalty, right?

Nope.

Come on.
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:08 AM ET
He is a good 3/4 line player. He will probably end up with 12-15 goals and close to 25 points. He hits, fights and always gives 100%. Not sure what you are expecting from the guy, but I would hate to lose him.
- adambuffalo


Gives 100%?????? Where? As he doesn't cover his assignments or as he fumbles passes that hit him on the tape? Or is it when he loses puck battles in the corners?

Seriously... let your love for a "cool" guy down and realize objectively he is awful.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 10:12 AM ET
LOL WUT? Speed? Does he use that speed to get to his point to prevent shots from the opponent's Dmen?

Nope.

Does he get back and hustle?

Nope.

Ohhhhh, you must have been referring to that speed he used when getting off the ice during the Canucks game that caused a too many men penalty, right?

Nope.

Come on.

- samike007


Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. I don't think of him as a slow player ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:12 AM ET
Let's take a quick objective look, shall we?

Foligno gets $2.25 MIL this year. He has 16 points...

Other forwards who have 16 points:

Artturi Lehkonen - $0.667 MIL

Alex Chiasson (actually 15 points) - $0.800 MIL

Scott Wilson - $0.590 MIL

Shane Prince - $0.800 MIL

Brandon Pirri - $1.100 MIL

Without Foligno's number in there, 16 points is averaging $0.79 MIL among these forwards...

Tell me if he is earning his keep...

- samike007


Patrick Sharp: 5 million
Cal Clutterbuck: 2.75 million
Jamie McGinn: 3.3 million
Jarome Iginla: 5.3 million

You can play that game with anyone...all of the above have less points than Foligno...

Assigning blame solely on that, to someone with so "low" of an NHL salary, is just griping for the sake of it.

He's no star, and as Goose said and I had posted while it was happening - Foligno anywhere above the 3rd line is a horrible choice, but he's nowhere near a problem on this roster and would be welcome on many solid teams across the league.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:13 AM ET
He is a good 3/4 line player. He will probably end up with 12-15 goals and close to 25 points. He hits, fights and always gives 100%. Not sure what you are expecting from the guy, but I would hate to lose him.
- adambuffalo


Plays the PK too. Sure, they suck this season, but this year is pretty off in that aspect compared to normal I believe.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 16 @ 10:16 AM ET
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samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:17 AM ET
Plays the PK too...

PK is ranked dead last in the league.

KEK
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:18 AM ET
Do you guys not watch his game? Do you not watch as passes fall off his stick? When he is chasing down a puck, doesn't it hit you that, "ok, no, he won't get it?"

I mean, poop, I've missed 2 total Sabres games this year, and it seems like my Facebook wall is nothing but, "my God, another horrendous play by Foligno."
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 16 @ 10:18 AM ET
Let's take a quick objective look, shall we?

Foligno gets $2.25 MIL this year. He has 16 points...

Other forwards who have 16 points:

Artturi Lehkonen - $0.667 MIL

Alex Chiasson (actually 15 points) - $0.800 MIL

Scott Wilson - $0.590 MIL

Shane Prince - $0.800 MIL

Brandon Pirri - $1.100 MIL

Without Foligno's number in there, 16 points is averaging $0.79 MIL among these forwards...

Tell me if he is earning his keep...

- samike007



samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:19 AM ET

- ImThatGuy


I'm not sure you know what cherry picking is... I didn't pick starts like Iginla and Sharp because:

1. They're actual stars in an off year

2. Their TOTAL pay per year is affected by a long-term contract.

E.g. Not comparable
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:22 AM ET
Hardhat?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 16 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'm not sure you know what cherry picking is... I didn't pick starts like Iginla and Sharp because:

1. They're actual stars in an off year

2. Their TOTAL pay per year is affected by a long-term contract.

E.g. Not comparable

- samike007


No you chose players who fit your agenda and excluded probably about 20-30 who make more than Foligno at similar production, but please contine to make you "Point"
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:24 AM ET
I hate to say it, but one of the best things that happened to the Sabres was a non-producer, Johan Larsson going down.

Foligno should be benched immediately... it would also have a positive effect. Leave the game for people who care and hustle (Bailey, Rodriquez).

And hell, Nic Deslauriers can take a seat, too.
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:25 AM ET
No you chose players who fit your agenda and excluded probably about 20-30 who make more than Foligno at similar production, but please contine to make you "Point"
- ImThatGuy


False... I gave why I excluded actual stars and long-contract players. Are you denying these facts?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:35 AM ET
Let's take a quick objective look, shall we?

Foligno gets $2.25 MIL this year. He has 16 points...

Other forwards who have 16 points:

Artturi Lehkonen - $0.667 MIL

Alex Chiasson (actually 15 points) - $0.800 MIL

Scott Wilson - $0.590 MIL

Shane Prince - $0.800 MIL

Brandon Pirri - $1.100 MIL

Without Foligno's number in there, 16 points is averaging $0.79 MIL among these forwards...

Tell me if he is earning his keep...

- samike007

your comparing his contract to cast offs on 1 year deals and entry level deals


not the same


foligno, is he a difference maker no
is he a problem, no
is he a solution? I think I want his style if we ever became a playoff team
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:37 AM ET
your comparing his contract to cast offs on 1 year deals and entry level deals


not the same


foligno, is he a difference maker no
is he a problem, no
is he a solution? I think I want his style if we ever became a playoff team

- homiedclown


*** He has NO value. He can't catch a pass.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 16 @ 10:40 AM ET
I hate to say it, but one of the best things that happened to the Sabres was a non-producer, Johan Larsson going down.

Foligno should be benched immediately... it would also have a positive effect. Leave the game for people who care and hustle (Bailey, Rodriquez).

And hell, Nic Deslauriers can take a seat, too.

- samike007



And Foligno is the #4 scorer on the team even strength.

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:43 AM ET
*** He has NO value. He can't catch a pass.
- samike007


And you can't seem to catch a clue that we don't care that you don't like him.
samike007
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
And you can't seem to catch a clue that we don't care that you don't like him.
- HonkFortheGoose


- You like him for no reason... he's junk.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
- You like him for no reason... he's junk.
- samike007


No reason? I listed off the reasons I like him. You don't agree. Whatever. That's your choice. Has no impact on my day, so continue your hate for him. I'll lose 0 sleep over it.
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