I thought Muller was an associate coach and not an assistant and could only be let go by Bergevin

I thought Muller was an associate coach and not an assistant and could only be let go by Bergevin
- Pie

Maybe, but what do you say to a guy you just signed for 5 years that says he wants his peeps?

Well, you can't give him the silent treatment..

Well, you can't give him the silent treatment..
- pete26

You fire him and hire Vigneault?

You fire him and hire Vigneault?
- obie

I'd say the next guy to go is MB.

When?

I dunno.

I'd say the next guy to go is MB.

When?

I dunno.
- pete26

The next 6 months are gonna be very important in determining that I think

The next 6 months are gonna be very important in determining that I think
- obie

Nah, he just bought himself another year and a half at least.

Nah, he just bought himself another year and a half at least.
- pete26

If it fails completely yea and the results over the next 6-8 months will play a big part in that, draft and FA included

If it fails completely yea and the results over the next 6-8 months will play a big part in that, draft and FA included
- obie

These gms always get the rest of the year the coach is fired.

And the next year with the new coach.

But in all honesty, MB has done a decent job with personnel too.

There's tools there, need a few more, let's wait and see.

These gms always get the rest of the year the coach is fired.

And the next year with the new coach.

But in all honesty, MB has done a decent job with personnel too.

There's tools there, need a few more, let's wait and see.
- pete26

Oh I'm with you, I really like what Bergevin has done, the way I see it they need 3 good pieces, it's not impossible he fills 2 of those before the deadline, even if one is as a rental

Oh I'm with you, I really like what Bergevin has done, the way I see it they need 3 good pieces, it's not impossible he fills 2 of those before the deadline, even if one is as a rental
- obie

And when he says he's not gonna trade future for now.

I kinda think he's trying to lower the price.

Or is he that stupid??

Edit: He did say he wasn't trading PK.

Guess he's dumb like a fox..

And when he says he's not gonna trade future for now.

I kinda think he's trying to lower the price.

Or is he that stupid??
- pete26

He never really has, he's pretty consistent... I don't believe he's ever traded a 1st round pick, pre draft or after he's selected the player. He's added 3 significant players through trades or FA and 1 through the draft on the current roster, I don't see him breaking that trend and instead of trading a Sergachev or McCarron to get a sexier name like Duchene or RNH, he'll trade for a guy like Backlund in Calgary, which would be a great addition and nowhere near the price

He never really has, he's pretty consistent... I don't believe he's ever traded a 1st round pick, pre draft or after he's selected the player. He's added 3 significant players through trades or FA and 1 through the draft on the current roster, I don't see him breaking that trend and instead of trading a Sergachev or McCarron to get a sexier name like Duchene or RNH, he'll trade for a guy like Backlund in Calgary, which would be a great addition and nowhere near the price
- obie

Elvis Iginla I don't mind either.

Yes _nay_ I'm not a racist..

Elvis Iginla I don't mind either.
- pete26

Huh?

Huh?
- obie

Jerome

He has many names..

And when he says he's not gonna trade future for now.

I kinda think he's trying to lower the price.

Or is he that stupid??

Edit: He did say he wasn't trading PK.

Guess he's dumb like a fox..
- pete26

Perhaps he means he is not going to throw prospects at someone who is going to walk away... but if a player has 2+years left on their contract, that is not really trading away the future for nothing.

That is how I interpreted it, at least.

Jerome

He has many names..
- pete26

Oh... I really have no interest in Iginla or Doan, I don't think they have much left to offer, I'd much prefer Vanek, Sharp or Vrbata as a rental W!

Perhaps he means he is not going to throw prospects at someone who is going to walk away... but if a player has 2+years left on their contract, that is not really trading away the future for nothing.

That is how I interpreted it, at least.
- Mashadar

Or perhaps he's trying to lower the price.

You know, when you're in Mexico and you say you don't want that blanket, but you really do.

And 3 days later you buy that blanket for 1/3 the asking price?

Come on.

Or perhaps he's trying to lower the price.

You know, when you're in Mexico and you say you don't want that blanket, but you really do.

And 3 days later you buy that blanket for 1/3 the asking price?

Come on.
- pete26

Yeah. Well, it was not the last blanket they had and there was not 29 other potential people interested in that blanket either. I hear what you are saying Pete, but I am not sure that impacts the trade cost of higher echelon players... maybe for fringe players, but not for the type of player this team needs.

Oh... I really have no interest in Iginla or Doan, I don't think they have much left to offer, I'd much prefer Vanek, Sharp or Vrbata as a rental W!
- obie

Oh they have much left to offer.

Tell me, of the 5 you mentioned, give me an order of which you'd want defending your goalie in a a scrum.

Edit:because in the playoffs it's a different ball game...

Oh they have much left to offer.

Tell me, of the 5 you mentioned, give me an order of which you'd want defendeding your goalie in a a scrum.

Edit:because in the playoffs it's a different ball game...
- pete26

Pittsburgh and Chicago are the 2 most successful franchises in the last decade and neither is built on that mentally, Habs need offense and Vanek/Vrbata provide way more of that than Iginla/Doan

But to answer your question.... Iginla, Doan, Sharp and a 2 way tie for last between Vanek and Vrbata

Yeah. Well, it was not the last blanket they had and there was not 29 other potential people interested in that blanket either. I hear what you are saying Pete, but I am not sure that impacts the trade cost of higher echelon players... maybe for fringe players, but not for the type of player this team needs.
- Mashadar

My point Mash is, he's gonna do something because he recognizes the window.

It's go time.

And he's not putting it out there to be in a position of weakness.

Or he's just a god damn idiot.

Pittsburgh and Chicago are the 2 most successful franchises in the last decade and neither is built on that mentally, Habs need offense and Vanek/Vrbata provide way more of that than Iginla/Doan

But to answer your question.... Iginla, Doan, Sharp and a 2 way tie for last between Vanek and Vrbata
- obie

Well, sorry my blue friend.

In the playoffs you need some warriors, you salt an Iggy or a Doan into that lineup (which will never happen) you got something.

Not to mention experience..

My point Mash is, he's gonna do something because he recognizes the window.

It's go time.

And he's not putting it out there to be in a position of weakness.

Or he's just a god damn idiot.
- pete26

I don't think he will pull off a big trade at the deadline, some minor tweaks. I do expect some big moves in the off season, based on what CJ wants to do with the team.

Then again, I did not think he had the balls to fire MT before the end of this season...