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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Do you need legal counsel ?
- CanuckDon


Yes, I hear Walmart has a good team, can you hook me up?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
You never were a playoff poster
- CanuckDon


Now that I know what Don is short for, I trust your evaluation of my posting abilities and will not question it
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
It will be the same headline at the same time of year next season as well. Botchford stirring up the hysteria as usual.
- Marwood



Botch should talk about doing things over and over. This time last year he had as many annoying posts as this year.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
Now that I know what Don is short for, I trust your evaluation of my posting abilities
- WhiteLie


You're beating me 8-1 right now? I keep forgetting to adjust my goalies....

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
I think Benning should go up to Louie and ask him to waive so he could put him up for the draft and not lose any forwards.

He just has to explain to LE no GM would ever be stupid enough to inherit his contract unless held to gunpoint.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
I think Benning should go up to Louie and ask him to waive so he could put him up for the draft and not lose any forwards.

He just has to explain to LE no GM would ever be stupid enough to inherit his contract unless held to gunpoint.

- VANTEL


Or just trade one of those forwards he is worried about losing......

Eriksson has been a huge disappointment, and I didn't expect more the 20g 50 pts from him but I think it would be pretty bad form for a GM to sign a high end UFA for 6 years and the next year not protect him in the expansion draft. I think that it would really hurt his ability to negotiate with UFA's in the future.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
I think Benning should go up to Louie and ask him to waive so he could put him up for the draft and not lose any forwards.

He just has to explain to LE no GM would ever be stupid enough to inherit his contract unless held to gunpoint.

- VANTEL

Need to give LE one more look here next year...don't wanna panic early and have him score 40 on another team...

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
You're beating me 8-1 right now? I keep forgetting to adjust my goalies....
- belcherbd


You just keep focusing on fixing Naniamo Mr Mayor
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:10 PM ET
Need to give LE one more look here next year...don't wanna panic early and have him score 40 on another team...


- LordHumungous



I was being sarcastic . No GM would ever take his contract. It won't happen but it would be nice if we could.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
Need to give LE one more look here next year...don't wanna panic early and have him score 40 on another team...


- LordHumungous

Maybe once Van gets someone other then a 3rd line center for him to play with.
Van needs to replace the 70+ points the Sedins used to score.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
For all the arguing that went on this summer about will we finish last or make the playoffs.

We definitely won't finish last but we are 3 points away from being a lottery team and five points away from being a playoff team . Can anyone say bubble team

- VANTEL



Yes correct. The misunderstandings come in the black and white world of HB arguing.

That a team with slim margins of error could make it if everything went right or just as easily crash if it didn't. Bubble of today's NHL. Nucks reality.

Yes it's far easier saying "this team sucks you are dreaming" and ridicule the "but they can make it and you never know" views. It's just more complicated then that.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
So back on topic.... The Canucks are going to be buyers I think.

My guess is Mark McNeil out of Chicago.

Former 1st round pick, puts up good numbers in the AHL and is waiver eligible RFA.

We have a depth at defense and don't have many centre prospects ( Gillis didn't draft any) so we will be shipping out Hutton.

- belcherbd


I don't know about that.

All things considered, we still have one of the worst defense's in the league as well as one of the lowest scoring...

We will likely lose Sbisa during expansion.

None of our so-called 'elite'/'future top 4' D-prospects will be ready next year.

If Benning is serious about moving Hutton, of whom likely has the highest offensive ceiling; then i hope they give Subban an opportunity (which they won't).

#Optimism.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:37 PM ET
Hot off the presses rumour.

Curtis Lazar for Jake Virtanen.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:39 PM ET
I don't know about that.

All things considered, we still have one of the worst defense's in the league as well as one of the lowest scoring...

We will likely lose Sbisa during expansion.

None of our so-called 'elite'/'future top 4' D-prospects will be ready next year.

If Benning is serious about moving Hutton, of whom likely has the highest offensive ceiling; then i hope they give Subban an opportunity (which they won't).

#Optimism.

- Whiskey-Tango


you're not the fish I'm trying to catch


#sarcasm
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
Maybe once Van gets someone other then a 3rd line center for him to play with.
Van needs to replace the 70+ points the Sedins used to score.

- manvanfan

#Boeser
#Juolevi
# ??
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
Hot off the presses rumour.

Curtis Lazar for Jake Virtanen.

- dbot


now is not the time to move on from Jake.

That said, I would be all for moving a vet for Lazar. Hansen, Sbisa, Sutter, Edler, Granlund etc. although I'm not sure how big of buyers Ottawa will be.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:47 PM ET
#Boeser
#Juolevi
# ??

- LordHumungous

Awesome if OJ can score 70 haha. I was more thinking a draft pick this year and next. May get a surprise from a prospect.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
now is not the time to move on from Jake.

That said, I would be all for moving a vet for Lazar. Hansen, Sbisa, Sutter, Edler, Granlund etc. although I'm not sure how big of buyers Ottawa will be.

- belcherbd



I agree with all this. JV I now have tempered expectations for, but he is young and is finally being developed properly. This is why the Canucks finally bought their own AHL team so they can have some say in it. There isnt any rush to give up on him yet
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:50 PM ET
Hot off the presses rumour.

Curtis Lazar for Jake Virtanen.

- dbot


One bust for another i suppose.

For a fanbase that can't stand Gaunce's inability to generate offense as a 4th liner, they will surely lynch poor Curtis.

This season in the NHL.

Gaunce: 5 pts in 48 games.
Lazar: 1 pt in 30 games.

All in all, that would be a horrendous trade on Benning's part, especially when he throws in the complimentary 2nd rounder.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 17 @ 2:51 PM ET
you're not the fish I'm trying to catch


#sarcasm

- belcherbd


belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:52 PM ET

I agree with all this. JV I now have tempered expectations for, but he is young and is finally being developed properly. This is why the Canucks finally bought their own AHL team so they can have some say in it. There isnt any rush to give up on him yet

- WhiteLie


Best case scenario for him IMO is the Comets squeaking into the playoffs and have Chaput, Megna and Biega returned. Hopefully they can win a round and he can get some good experience.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
Maybe once Van gets someone other then a 3rd line center for him to play with.
Van needs to replace the 70+ points the Sedins used to score.

- manvanfan


The hope is BB and yes even JV come in to make that up plus a puck wizard if JB picks one up by...draft ...? ... trade...? ...free agent...? Plus the existing improved scoring of Sven, Granlund and Bo. The expectation that Sutter keeps up wth 20 and LE adds same or more.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
So an expansion exempt player for a non exempt player? JB would be a moron if this was done before the draft.
- Retinalz


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
The hope is BB and yes even JV come in to make that up plus a puck wizard if JB picks one up by...draft ...? ... trade...? ...free agent...? Plus the existing improved scoring of Sven, Granlund and Bo. The expectation that Sutter keeps up wth 20 and LE adds same or more.
- Nuck4U

For this team to come near a cup Bo, Sven, Markus, Hutton all the younger players need to continue to score more. Sutter, Eriksson need to put up 20 plus goals.

Then we need 2 players that are going to score around 70.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
Reality is, that we are younger than we were last year (even though points and stats remain similar), and our prospect cupboard is a bit heavier than it was this time last year as well. Small steps, small victories.
- Codes1087


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