You guys just cant see it, numbers dont wear skates nerd
- WhiteLie

because there is no better option than smagma. as was mentioned on the radio, we pick up Boucher off waivers and he is on the pp. most of the depth signed for Utica is playing for the Canucks...

I always say I'd rather watch them try to win than tank, but we need to draft some offense.

Should we have signed Ruutu at the start of the season?
- hillbillydeluxe

Ummm....Tryamkin? Granlund? Bo? Me? That's 4 options

you are only seeing the negatives though. Which are very evident, and I agree with, but the fact still remains that there are some positives to take out of Willy's coaching, and it is inevitable that whoever is behind the helm, the team is still going to suck due to an inferior roster. Look at Colorado as an example. New coach, same results, due to a terrible terrible roster.

ALSO - re PP - it is so bad, I don't blame him for trying everything. It is by far the worst looking powerplay in the league. If its between Hansen and Megna, than I would go with Hansen 99 times out of 100, but the fact remains that is isn't working, and I would be looking for anything to get it going.
- Codes1087

I am not saying Willie should be fired...I am just saying he sucks

You guys just cant see it, numbers dont wear skates nerd
- WhiteLie

Was that same vision that saw Bo as just a defensive center to play only 4th line even this season?

Not sure how you see the above? So you believe that other coaches are no better then WD?

I get it's all about the right fit when it comes to coaching the Nucks now. So it's more complicated with who should be coaching and how.

Team is playing hard and that's a good thing. Past that not sure what else is but then again it's nice to see certain players emerge.
- Nuck4U

I never said there are no coaches that are better than WD.. Ill take half a dozen current coaches over WD if I could right now. You are putting words in my mouth with that one.

Bo was not deployed as 4th line defensive center. He was put on the 4th line to transition him from Junior to the Pro's in limited minutes. As a coach, you have to be careful on how you deploy your rookies. Are you going to give them defensive zone starts against other teams top lines? Or are you going to give him neutral zone or offensive zone starts against other teams 4th lines and try and to put that player in a position to succeed and get experience and gain confidence? How many players do you know (other than the generational players drafted 1 or 2 OA) that have made the jump to the Pro's in a 1st or 2nd line deployment coming straight out of Junior.. You would be hard pressed to find a long list. All I am saying, is that I am on board with the Willy criticism as some of his calls are just out of left field, but maybe you Willy haters need take your foot off the gas a pump the brakes a bit as all of the Willy Haters have a ton to say about his faults, but have never once acknowledged any of his successes (Horvat/Baertschi/Stecher/Granlund/Hutton 1st year). I am no coach, but I don't think that coaching a NHL hockey team, with a poop roster, who is transitioning to a younger roster/core is an easy job, maybe cut him some slack and relax on the Willy hate. (this is not directed at just you Nuck4U so don't fly off the handle)

Ummm....Tryamkin? Granlund? Bo? Me? That's 4 options
- CanuckDon

we might see that by the end of the season.

I want Bo to run his own pp.

Granlund has been a pleasant surprise with the Sedins.

Was that same vision that saw Bo as just a defensive center to play only 4th line even this season?

Not sure how you see the above? So you believe that other coaches are no better then WD?

I get it's all about the right fit when it comes to coaching the Nucks now. So it's more complicated with who should be coaching and how.

Team is playing hard and that's a good thing. Past that not sure what else is but then again it's nice to see certain players emerge.
- Nuck4U

that is such BS.

even in the first game when bo was "deemed to be 4th line" by virtue of his line mates, he still played 17 minutes in all situations.

Guys you're ruining the narrative that it's all WD's fault.
- golfingsince

It's no more real of a narrative then it's all the players fault. Reality is always more complicated then narratives.

I never said there are no coaches that are better than WD.. Ill take half a dozen current coaches over WD if I could right now. You are putting words in my mouth with that one.

Bo was not deployed as 4th line defensive center. He was put on the 4th line to transition him from Junior to the Pro's in limited minutes. As a coach, you have to be careful on how you deploy your rookies. Are you going to give them defensive zone starts against other teams top lines? Or are you going to give him neutral zone or offensive zone starts against other teams 4th lines and try and to put that player in a position to succeed and get experience and gain confidence? How many players do you know (other than the generational players drafted 1 or 2 OA) that have made the jump to the Pro's in a 1st or 2nd line deployment coming straight out of Junior.. You would be hard pressed to find a long list. All I am saying, is that I am on board with the Willy criticism as some of his calls are just out of left field, but maybe you Willy haters need take your foot off the gas a pump the brakes a bit as all of the Willy Haters have a ton to say about his faults, but have never once acknowledged any of his successes (Horvat/Baertschi/Stecher/Granlund/Hutton 1st year). I am no coach, but I don't think that coaching a NHL hockey team, with a poop roster, who is transitioning to a younger roster/core is an easy job, maybe cut him some slack and relax on the Willy hate. (this is not directed at just you Nuck4U so don't fly off the handle)
- Codes1087

Pretty sure he was referring to the first game of this season where Bo was listed as 4th line, but played 17 minutes

https://twitter.com/Canuc...33549449636896768/video/1

slash on Henrik.

that is such BS.

even in the first game when bo was "deemed to be 4th line" by virtue of his line mates, he still played 17 minutes in all situations.
- RealityChecker

You are mixing up ice time with the defensive part of the vision. He was being deployed in defensive situations. The statements at the time from WD is we don't need him to worry about offense and for him to bring his defensive game.

You guys just cant see it, numbers dont wear skates nerd
- WhiteLie

Probably the same guys who don't understand the benefits of practicing.

You are mixing up ice time with the defensive part of the vision. He was being deployed in defensive situations. The statements at the time from WD is we don't need him to worry about offense and for him to bring his defensive game.
- Nuck4U

Please show evidence of this. I am not saying he wasn't given defensive zone starts, but show me where the 4th line of Dorsett/Bo/Kenins were primarily used as a checking line.

that is such BS.

even in the first game when bo was "deemed to be 4th line" by virtue of his line mates, he still played 17 minutes in all situations.
- RealityChecker

Get out of here with your facts, save it for the facts thread.

Get out of here with your facts, save it for the facts thread.
- golfingsince

it's my own fault for falling into the traps.

Ummm....Tryamkin? Granlund? Bo? Me? That's 4 options
- CanuckDon

What about giving Burrows a right handed stick?

I never said there are no coaches that are better than WD.. Ill take half a dozen current coaches over WD if I could right now. You are putting words in my mouth with that one.

Bo was not deployed as 4th line defensive center. He was put on the 4th line to transition him from Junior to the Pro's in limited minutes. As a coach, you have to be careful on how you deploy your rookies. Are you going to give them defensive zone starts against other teams top lines? Or are you going to give him neutral zone or offensive zone starts against other teams 4th lines and try and to put that player in a position to succeed and get experience and gain confidence? How many players do you know (other than the generational players drafted 1 or 2 OA) that have made the jump to the Pro's in a 1st or 2nd line deployment coming straight out of Junior.. You would be hard pressed to find a long list. All I am saying, is that I am on board with the Willy criticism as some of his calls are just out of left field, but maybe you Willy haters need take your foot off the gas a pump the brakes a bit as all of the Willy Haters have a ton to say about his faults, but have never once acknowledged any of his successes (Horvat/Baertschi/Stecher/Granlund/Hutton 1st year). I am no coach, but I don't think that coaching a NHL hockey team, with a poop roster, who is transitioning to a younger roster/core is an easy job, maybe cut him some slack and relax on the Willy hate. (this is not directed at just you Nuck4U so don't fly off the handle)
- Codes1087

What part of my post had WD hate? Not sure where you are getting that? I like you question stuff about his choices. I only asked you to clarify your comments. But saying that no one else could do a better job with this roster sounds bold. Like no one can do a better job then WD. The players can be molded to play well and that's the coaches job to find ways to win with his group.

https://twitter.com/CanuckClay/status/833549449636896768/video/1

slash on Henrik.
- hillbillydeluxe

It's pretty embarrassing being a Canucks fan these days...a team full of cowards.

What about giving Burrows a right handed stick?
- Scooby_Doo

The best is Willie's response to not playing Hansen on the PP. He is a scorer off the rush...what an idiot

Probably the same guys who don't understand the benefits of practicing.
- Marwood

You are mixing up ice time with the defensive part of the vision. He was being deployed in defensive situations. The statements at the time from WD is we don't need him to worry about offense and for him to bring his defensive game.
- Nuck4U

don't try to backtrack from your initial BS statement. this is what you said, "defensive center to play only 4th line."

leaving aside your disingenuous backtrack to try to save your initial deceit, could WD not be seen to be right in that a young centre needed to focus on his defensive game? especially coming off a season that saw a particularly bad minus 30 (though plus/minus isn't a stand alone indication of defensive play).

if wd said that bo needed to concentrate on his defensive game b/c the offense would take care of itself, wouldn't this season vindicate those thoughts?

What part of my post had WD hate? Not sure where you are getting that? I like you question stuff about his choices. I only asked you to clarify your comments. But saying that no one else could do a better job with this roster sounds bold. Like no one can do a better job then WD. The players can be molded to play well and that's the coaches job to find ways to win with his group.
- Nuck4U

The comment isn't directed only at you (I put in the bottom). It is to everyone who constantly does nothing but bash Willy on here. I am only saying that Willy has done some good that people who do nothing but whine about him fail to acknowledge. I am also saying, that you would be hard pressed to find a coach, who is going to make this team drastically better, while keeping the same roster. Lipstick on a pig my friend, in the end, its still a pig, and the Canucks are still the Canucks.

It's pretty embarrassing being a Canucks fan these days...a team full of cowards.
- CanuckDon

I really liked how everyone came to Stetchers defense the other night as he is getting pummeled by the goalie as his 'teammates' watch. They are missing Gubranson & Dorsett. I will be happy when this BS 'don't retaliate' mantra is gone.

It's pretty embarrassing being a Canucks fan these days...a team full of cowards.
- CanuckDon

decade?

I don't even mind if the dmen come in for a scrum at the opposing goal and get the faceoff pushed out. not a lot of push back in any situation, and hasn't been for awhile.

too bad we can't take the crap and make'em pay on the pp.

Please show evidence of this. I am not saying he wasn't given defensive zone starts, but show me where the 4th line of Dorsett/Bo/Kenins were primarily used as a checking line.
- Codes1087

Are you kidding? Anyway I get Bo's role in rookie year. My comments from the post was directed towards how this season started. Especially in light of how last season ended with Bo, Sven and JV on an offensive tear.