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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
So you let him walk for free sounds like the buffalo way


And can you explain to me how you think we're going to get a defenseman? Wings are easy to replace

- GERBE!!!75PTS

That's a little different. If he's not signing I don't think anyone wouldn't move him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Are you really doing this.
- TheSabresTaco

Look at Stafford career. Tell me what year is the outlier.

Do the same for Kane.

Now tell me you want to base a contract extension on an outlier sesson....again
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Is it really necessary to explain.

If he's willing to re-sign, you keep him. Even when he cools down, he's still a very high quality player.

If he's not, well yeah, no poop you trade him.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
Look at Stafford career. Tell me what year is the outlier.

Do the same for Kane.

Now tell me you want to base a contract extension on an outlier sesson....again

- sbroads24


Tell me with a straight face that they're similarly styled players.

Never brought up contracts. That's a different conversation. And yes, I re-sign him.

And yes, Evander Kane is a much more valuable player than Drew Stafford.

I've never wavered from wanting to re-sign him. We paid a hefty price and he's a valuable player. Much more than Drew (frank)ing Staffinfection.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
I had no idea you were Evander Kane, banging the wall for a tank job.

Can I? Yeah. But I'm not gonna.

- TheSabresTaco


You can't ..

If he has the opportunity to Land us a good young defenseman you do it sorry

Like I said wingers are easily replaceable
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Feb 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Grrrrrr...this year already! Injuries are straight killing us. Eichel being out so long cost us at least a few points in the standings. Kulikov and Bogosian being hurt and playing hurt, I'm sure, have also cost us some points. Playing Fedun and Falk all year was not ideal. then, factor in Larsson and now Girgs. Mix Kane in there too. Injuries have absolutely killed us. That being said, with relative good health, I think we're up top right now. Lehner has been great, the PP is awesome, we've beat some really good teams along the way. It's not over, but I'm seing this year as kind of a "lost" year and what could have been. Hopefully we win the TDL and off season. I'm really looking forward to next season.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
You can't ..

If he has the opportunity to Land us a good young defenseman you do it sorry

Like I said wingers are easily replaceable

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I don't debate with you JR because you microwave (frank)ing chicken wings.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
That's a little different. If he's not signing I don't think anyone wouldn't move him
- sbroads24


My only problem is if they wait the next trade deadline they're in the playoffs they're not Kinect trade in so then you risk of losing him in free agency
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
Sell, Sell, Sell...this team is going nowhere so if you can move guys like Bogo, Ennis, Gus, Moulson, Foligno, Gorges, Gionta, and Kuli you do it. The only guys I would not mess with would be O'Reilly, Eichel, Kane, Okposo, Reinhart, and Risto. And if some team wanted to over pay for Kane well then he can go as well but it would have to be a really good deal for the swords. At this point I would rather see them drop in the standings than move up and miss the playoffs by a point or 2.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
I don't debate with you JR because you microwave (frank)ing chicken wings.
- TheSabresTaco



4 years ago and it said microwave no oven.. it's called surviving
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
My only problem is if they wait the next trade deadline they're in the playoffs they're not Kinect trade in so then you risk of losing him in free agency
- GERBE!!!75PTS


You base this entire argument on reading your crystal ball knowing he's not signing. Where's the objectivity.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Tell me with a straight face that they're similarly styled players.

Never brought up contracts. That's a different conversation. And yes, I re-sign him.

And yes, Evander Kane is a much more valuable player than Drew Stafford.

- TheSabresTaco

My point is you would have said the exact same things about Stafford during his 31 in 62 year. He was amazing.

Outlier years are the worst to judge a player on.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
You base this entire argument on reading your crystal ball knowing he's not signing. Where's the objectivity.
- TheSabresTaco


He could easily say I don't want to talk contract right now and just Drury us

They better have a timetable if he doesn't sign it by then you trade him
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
My point is you would have said the exact same things about Stafford during his 31 in 62 year. He was amazing.

Outlier years are the worst to judge a player on.

- sbroads24


I didn't, and I wouldn't. I supported a 4x2 prove it contract.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
My point is you would have said the exact same things about Stafford during his 31 in 62 year. He was amazing.

Outlier years are the worst to judge a player on.

- sbroads24



I agree to a certain point.

Evander Kane has never played with a player like Eichel before.

I would be very cautious with him when offering him an extension in the summer, but like you have said if he isn't willing to discuss a contract he is gone in the offseason.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
This is hardly an "outlier" season.

After his rookie season, compiling his season totals, he has averaged a pace of 0.64 ppg. His high was 0.77, his low was 0.54 and this year is 0.67.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
http://buffalonews.com/20...-bills-keep-tyrod-taylor/
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
Would anyone take a run at Rielly ? I don't think he's in the "leafs" core anymore
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Feb 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
http://buffalonews.com/2017/02/21/nfl-network-report-probably-better-chance-bills-keep-tyrod-taylor/
- Stripes77


So basically no one knows lol

He'll be gone I'm not worried tank the season get one of the three good quarterbacks next year and be set
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
Would anyone take a run at Rielly ? I don't think he's in the "leafs" core anymore
- GERBE!!!75PTS



He's 22...what other young defensemen is in their "core"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
Drew Stafford's "outlier" season was 0.84 ppg. His low was 0.39, his average is 0.54 and his high is 0.84.

Eliminating the outlier season, his average drops to 0.52, with a high of 0.73, his only other 'successful' season. His next best is 0.59.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
This is hardly an "outlier" season.

After his rookie season, compiling his season totals, he has averaged a pace of 0.64 ppg. His high was 0.77, his low was 0.54 and this year is 0.67.

- TheSabresTaco

That's because he was dreadful and didn't score his first 12 because of his ribs. Since then in the 36 games his goals and shooting % has never been close to as high.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
So basically no one knows lol

He'll be gone I'm not worried tank the season get one of the three good quarterbacks next year and be set

- GERBE!!!75PTS



The bolded is pretty much what I was getting at

If he is gone my guess would be Jones is the starter next year and that saves me a lot of Sundays...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
I agree to a certain point.

Evander Kane has never played with a player like Eichel before.

I would be very cautious with him when offering him an extension in the summer, but like you have said if he isn't willing to discuss a contract he is gone in the offseason.

- Stripes77


I agree, and it's a separate conversation.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
That's because he was dreadful and didn't score his first 12 because of his ribs. Since then in the 36 games his goals and shooting % has never been close to as high.
- sbroads24


What does that have to do with anything. The point is, he's doing. How he's doing it is completely irrelevant when looking at seasonal offensive totals. Like you have with Staff Infection.
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