Absolutely no reason to do it though. Say Boesers season ends, school is done, we are for sure out of the playoffs, why bring him on to a losing team to experience 10 games a burn a year?
- Codes1087

Give him a longer offseason to get that wrist 100% and ready to hit the ground running next year

@Don.

Thanks Carol...I've been saying for months that we won't make a trade. It's not rocket science
- Whiskey-Tango[] undesirable assets, NTC and a looming expansion draft = inactive deadline.

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While your assumption might be correct, your argument is wrong.

Hansen, Burrows and/or Sbisa are generally the exact types of depth players that playoff teams look to make before making a big run.

While everyone remembers the one or two key moves of the TDL, there's typically a plethora of minor deals.

Last year for instance, there were 20 trades involving 38 total players.

Sure, expansion will lower those numbers but playoff teams tend to emphasize their 'win now window' as opposed to potentially losing a bottom 6 forward in the summer, while there is also a surprising number of teams that won't be effected by losing any 'key' forward this summer anyways.

Fact is, the prices will be low, but if Benning manages once again to lose players for nothing, be it through expansion or UFA, that will count as a lose. Pure and simple.

This is a simplistic argument. You have completely ignored the NTC for Burrows and Hansen. Sure there will be trades. Teams with more desirable assets will make a few trades. I don't believe Burrows is a valued asset at the TDL. HAnsen? Absolutely but the ball is in his court. If he doesn't want to move he won't. I agree that it's a loss for Benning if he can't make some sort of trade though. I'd like to see a few of your trade proposals since you love being an arm chair GM

My sense is that Jake Virtanen is still in "learning" mode and will probably finish out his season in the minors.

Ha! Right now, Virtanen isn't even good enough for the AHL. He's an ECHL quality player. He's not getting back on the Canucks any time soon (or without an absolutely massive improvement first)...

This is a simplistic argument. You have completely ignored the NTC for Burrows and Hansen. Sure there will be trades. Teams with more desirable assets will make a few trades. I don't believe Burrows is a valued asset at the TDL. HAnsen? Absolutely but the ball is in his court. If he doesn't want to move he won't. I agree that it's a loss for Benning if he can't make some sort of trade though. I'd like to see a few of your trade proposals since you love being an arm chair GM
- CanuckDon

Are you really from LV? Will you be changing allegiances?

Are you really from LV? Will you be changing allegiances?
- twiztedmike

I will be switching teams soon...nothing to switch to yet

A Boeser appearance

You can totally expect him to turn pro now. The decision to stay in college this year came back to really bite him in the ass. Big time. He probably won't make that stupid mistake again.

To entice him to sign, to give him the experience and to market the product.

Lord knows this team is going to want to end on somewhat of a high note in an attempt to re-up ticket sales next season.

It's not as though this team will be facing a cap crunch anytime soon anyways lol.
- Whiskey-Tango

entice him with bonus's then. 10 goals, 20 goals, whatever.

This is a simplistic argument. You have completely ignored the NTC for Burrows and Hansen. Sure there will be trades. Teams with more desirable assets will make a few trades. I don't believe Burrows is a valued asset at the TDL. HAnsen? Absolutely but the ball is in his court. If he doesn't want to move he won't. I agree that it's a loss for Benning if he can't make some sort of trade though. I'd like to see a few of your trade proposals since you love being an arm chair GM
- CanuckDon

It's simplistic argument for a simplistic dynamic.

"If they're available for trade, they will be traded," TSN Insider (and all-around smart hockey guy) Ray Ferraro told the TSN afternoon show on Monday, referring to both Hansen and pending unrestricted free agent Alex Burrows. "There will be high on both of them. Higher interest on Hansen. If they make them available, I don't know which playoff team wouldn't be interested in various levels of interest for the two players."

Don't know the specifics about Burrows' contract, but Hansen has just submitted a list of 8 teams.

Most hockey players, much like human beings in general, look to succeed.
In that light, the odds are pretty favorable that Hansen would include most, if not a decent amount, of playoff teams in the aspiration of winning a cup.
I.E competitiveness.

They might not want to move, but if they include a team that wants them, a trade is very likely.

Again, i know you are simply anticipating the inevitable TDL disappointment but, If Benning loses assets for nothing when he could 'potentially' garner a return, any return, then he is fundamentally bad at his job.

entice him with bonus's then. 10 goals, 20 goals, whatever.
- Codes1087

He's our best prospect and he and his agent know it.
Bet you he gets whatever he wants including the burned year, bonuses and the expectation/promise that he's given a legitimate shot at the NHL right out of the gate, deserved or not.

But hey, I'm totally with you.

Play Boeser 9 games & no ELC year is burned. This is old news.

Johnny Gaudreau played his first NHL game for the Flames against the Canucks at the very end of the 2013-14 season—and he scored.

That's my dream for Boeser.
- Carol Schram

Play Boeser 9 games & no ELC year is burned. This is old news.
- Nighthawk

Not the same rules for college players, 1 game=year burned

Absolutely no reason to do it though. Say Boesers season ends, school is done, we are for sure out of the playoffs, why bring him on to a losing team to experience 10 games a burn a year?
- Codes1087

You're kidding right? Get him prepped for next year, get fans to stop complaining, show up to the games, let the other guys on the team get to know him and build chemistry, etc etc

On top of that it will eliminate any drama potentially caused by negotiations with him taking too long, etc.

Play Boeser 9 games & no ELC year is burned. This is old news.
- Nighthawk

not for NCAA players.....

You're kidding right? Get him prepped for next year, get fans to stop complaining, show up to the games, let the other guys on the team get to know him and build chemistry, etc etc
- NorthNuck

you want Boeser, to sign and burn 1 year of his entry level, to play a handful of games, on a losing Canuck team, to play in limited minutes, and reason being you want him to get prepped for 2017/2018? And Chemistry? At the tail end of his NCAA season and the end of the NHL season... Really??

On top of that it will eliminate any drama potentially caused by negotiations with him taking too long, etc.

EDIT - I quoted you too fast it seems. To the above in bold, I don't give a flying f*ck about the feelings of the fans. Let them whine over the last 10 games that won't mean a thing. Who cares. And Drama? Boeser can sign max entry level deal, and we still retain his rights for the next 2 years, there won't be drama.

I think GM's and teams should always be mindful of the cap. What if Boeser is signed early and ends up having a first few seasons like Horvat (granted its a win/loss because hes a good player and producing) but paying a player like Horvat or Boeser a year early could effect your cap significantly.
- Codes1087

i agree with you that boeser shouldn't be brought in this year.

however, burning a year of an ELC is not necessarily a bad thing. unless the player is a break out star from the outset (which would be a win for the team in any event), he will probably be more amenable to a bridge deal after his first contract. if negotiated properly, a "2 year ELC" could actually lead to more years of cost certainty.

if we look at horvat as an example, it would have been easier to get him to accept a 2 year bridge deal or a lower cap hit long term deal if his contract expired last season (or JB negotiated it in the off season - i'm not going there). the point being that the second contract is where you can really save money at a time where the player is starting to have a significant impact on the team.

while burning the first year of an ELC brings about UFA status earlier, it is not necessarily a negative for the team's cap... if handled correctly.

not for NCAA players.....
- Codes1087

If 9 or less games Boeser can slide. NCAA has no bearing other than he cannot return to UND once he signs a contract. Gaudette cannot slide due to his age.

One good this about standing pat at the TDL is Pratt will fecking loose his sh*t. I'm okay with that.

i agree with you that boeser shouldn't be brought in this year.

however, burning a year of an ELC is not necessarily a bad thing. unless the player is a break out star from the outset (which would be a win for the team in any event), he will probably be more amenable to a bridge deal after his first contract. if negotiated properly, a "2 year ELC" could actually lead to more years of cost certainty.

if we look at horvat as an example, it would have been easier to get him to accept a 2 year bridge deal or a lower cap hit long term deal if his contract expired last season (or JB negotiated it in the off season - i'm not going there). the point being that the second contract is where you can really save money at a time where the player is starting to have a significant impact on the team.

while burning the first year of an ELC brings about UFA status earlier, it is not necessarily a negative for the team's cap... if handled correctly.
- RealityChecker

totally get what you are saying, its a win/loss if you burn a level and he makes an impact immediately, totally understand, I just don't see the point. We are not making the playoffs, he would play no more than a dozen games once his season is done, contract signed, yada yada yada, I see no point. Sign him in the off season, give him the deals he deserves, tell him to bring it to camp and make the opening night roster, you are good to go.

One good this about standing pat at the TDL is Pratt will fecking loose his sh*t. I'm okay with that.
- VanHockeyGuy

I've met Pratt when he did a piece nationally for TSN on our pitcher, Harry Lavalee 69yr old, in mixed fastball & tbh he was a nice guy & all. His penchant for dramatics is just his style.

@Codes

Simple, bring in Boeser in for a few games in a meaningless season means that we can play him in all situations. It will also give him an idea on what to work on at the NHL level for next season.

If 9 or less games Boeser can slide. NCAA has no bearing other than he cannot return to UND once he signs a contract. Gaudette cannot slide due to his age.
- Nighthawk

I have never heard of this... I was always under the impression that NCAA players burn a year once they play their first game...

@Codes

Simple, bring in Boeser in for a few games in a meaningless season means that we can play him in all situations. It will also give him an idea on what to work on at the NHL level for next season.
- Retinalz

that's what the prospects tourney, exhibitions and main camp is for. Everyone team goes through growing pains with rookies, willing to give the kid 650k (or whatever max level ELC is) to give the kid a 10 game look?

totally get what you are saying, its a win/loss if you burn a level and he makes an impact immediately, totally understand, I just don't see the point. We are making the playoffs, he would play no more than a dozen games once his season is done, contract signed, yada yada yada, I see no point. Sign him in the off season, give him the deals he deserves, tell him to bring it to camp and make the opening night roster, you are good to go.
- Codes1087

i'm with you on what the team should do about boeser.

just pointing out that in the salary cap era, the team really needs to have long term strategies with respect to the cap and that burning a year of an ELC isn't necessarily bad.

I have never heard of this... I was always under the impression that NCAA players burn a year once they play their first game...
- Codes1087

It applies to 18-19 yr olds born before Sept 15 which Boeser is.
Gaudette is classified as a 20yr old.