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- SMBDragon

He has to provide a list of active teams that he can potentially be traded to. Having Canucks on the list would void his LNTC and open up 29 teams he can be traded to.

I am going to get torched on this, but I have huge reservations about trading Hansen. At 2.5 he is a steal, he is fast, a great penalty killer, can play on any line and never complains. We better get a significant return otherwise what is the point? I am afraid that this trade may be made done to just appease a panicky fan base. Yes, now is the time to sell and we should probably move Burrows and Miller, if there are any takers. Getting a replacement for Hansen next year, at that cheap of cost will not be easy.
- Healthy-Scratch

There is no panic or rush to move Hansen at the TDL. Any trade would be good or no trade at all. Fans r not to be appeased & a deal is done when it makes sense. JB does not trade for the sake of trading eg Hamhuis to get nothing & appear weak. Rather a GM stick to his guns than appease weak panicky fans.

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- SMBDragon

If he makes a list like that and you run it through Google Translate, it comes back:

Vegas.

I am going to get torched on this, but I have huge reservations about trading Hansen. At 2.5 he is a steal, he is fast, a great penalty killer, can play on any line and never complains. We better get a significant return otherwise what is the point? I am afraid that this trade may be made done to just appease a panicky fan base. Yes, now is the time to sell and we should probably move Burrows and Miller, if there are any takers. Getting a replacement for Hansen next year, at that cheap of cost will not be easy.
- Healthy-Scratch

The consideration is as follows:

Granlund + (return for Hansen trade) > Hansen?

It's about who you want to lose at the expansion draft. If Hansen is traded for an asset we won't lose anything important.

IMO the TDL is the 1st opportunity to see if a contender/pretender will overpay.
If not then keep Hansen & listen to offers. Between the TDL & expansion draft many teams can enter into the convo for various trades. Nothing says it has to be Hansen who gets traded due to a TDL deadline.

You are making assumptions again. Hansen doesn't want to move and he can simply provide a list of non-playoff teams. Burrows? We need to agree to disagree. I said I don't believe teams will want him. I do agree with you that Benning should make a move though. That move is trading Granlund if there is a market.
- CanuckDon

Hansen even stated that could backfire. Many bottom teams could protect him, and though the return wouldn't be as high, could still trade for him.

The consideration is as follows:

Granlund + (return for Hansen trade) > Hansen?

It's about who you want to lose at the expansion draft. If Hansen is traded for an asset we won't lose anything important.
- CanuckDon

Losing Hansen is significant & dependent upon what that asset would be.

If Hansen doesn't get traded, he's Vegas bound.
- boonerbuck

There is always the possibility that they trade him before the draft and after the SC finishes but I can't see them getting a better return at that point.

The consideration is as follows:

Granlund + (return for Hansen trade) > Hansen?

It's about who you want to lose at the expansion draft. If Hansen is traded for an asset we won't lose anything important.
- CanuckDon

Funny thing is that Higgins was every bit as productive as Hansen since joining the Canucks in 2010 (.45ppg to Hansen's .43ppg) and had leadership qualities, but we were extremely happy to buy out his reasonable contract to make room for younger players. Same should be applied here, except we would be selling high for once

What can he do?

Sutter, Granlund, Sbisa, Tanev are all guys who have value and could be moved for a return.

Understandably guys like Hansen, Miller and Burrows will be harder to move but they still can be moved.

I think based off of the disappointment of last year and the reality that one of Sbisa or Hansen will lost during expansion, those are the two more likely to be moved.
- belcherbd

Single most motivating factor for JB to make a deal at TDL. To protect them from Vegas with side deals will set Nucks back on rebuild.

I get your options on the could and can. A reach for JB to do though. Especially the young Granlund and Sutter with lack of centers.

The consideration is as follows:

Granlund + (return for Hansen trade) > Hansen?

It's about who you want to lose at the expansion draft. If Hansen is traded for an asset we won't lose anything important.
- CanuckDon

Trade whichever of Hansen/Granlund yields a better return. I know some will say it is an easy answer because of Hansen's experience but some GM might value Granlunds production vs contract over Hansen.

Losing Hansen is significant & dependent upon what that asset would be.
- Nighthawk

I really like Hansen but due to the expansion draft we need to try and trade somebody. I don't want to lose Granlund or Bae for nothing as they are younger than Hansen.

Trade whichever of Hansen/Granlund yields a better return. I know some will say it is an easy answer because of Hansen's experience but some GM might value Granlunds production vs contract over Hansen.
- belcherbd

I am going to get torched on this, but I have huge reservations about trading Hansen. At 2.5 he is a steal, he is fast, a great penalty killer, can play on any line and never complains. We better get a significant return otherwise what is the point? I am afraid that this trade may be made done to just appease a panicky fan base. Yes, now is the time to sell and we should probably move Burrows and Miller, if there are any takers. Getting a replacement for Hansen next year, at that cheap of cost will not be easy.
- Healthy-Scratch

is he worth protecting though? he may play most of the season, but he does get a few injuries here and there. I know it doesn't hurt his value to us nor another team, but granlund is younger, forchecks well and scores decently well on an offense starved team(basically much better than Hansen at the same age)

Funny thing is that Higgins was every bit as productive as Hansen since joining the Canucks in 2010 (.45ppg to Hansen's .43ppg) and had leadership qualities, but we were extremely happy to buy out his reasonable contract to make room for younger players. Same should be applied here, except we would be selling high for once
- WhiteLie

Although I agree with you, obviously Higgin's skating was no longer NHL caliber

There is always the possibility that they trade him before the draft and after the SC finishes but I can't see them getting a better return at that point.
- belcherbd

JB could make a side deal with McPhee & have him take Sbisa.
All depends on what happens between now n then.
Lots of time yet to see the muddy waters clear up.

You are making assumptions again. Hansen doesn't want to move and he can simply provide a list of non-playoff teams. Burrows? We need to agree to disagree. I said I don't believe teams will want him. I do agree with you that Benning should make a move though. That move is trading Granlund if there is a market.
- CanuckDon

As are you.

Assuming that Hansen provides 8 non-playoff teams would all but ensure his tenure in Van is over when his contract is up next year, assuming of course he sneaks through expansion.

Assuming Hansen himself holds the ability to Assume, one would assume that Hansen knows he's likely to be picked by Vegas against his will where-as now, he actually can have some input on where he goes and ultimately spends the next 18 months of his life.

You are making assumptions again. Hansen doesn't want to move and he can simply provide a list of non-playoff teams. Burrows? We need to agree to disagree. I said I don't believe teams will want him. I do agree with you that Benning should make a move though. That move is trading Granlund if there is a market.
- CanuckDon

I know Hansen doesn't want to leave. But his contract is up end of next season. If he wants to cash in like Burr or LE (last prime years contract) he needs a good playoff run this season. So he should be motivated to give a list of teams on a contender that could use him.

Timely playoff goals from scoring depth like Hansen are huge. The honeybadger game also counts more in the playoffs. He should be motivated for his own future for a good trade.

Losing Hansen is significant & dependent upon what that asset would be.
- Nighthawk

If we don't trade Hansen, we better be prepared to give up an asset so LV doesn't take him for free.

Although I agree with you, obviously Higgin's skating was no longer NHL caliber
- CanuckDon

Of course, he lost a step with injuries, but the majority of the time here he was a good skater and penalty killer. He is 3 years older than Hansen, whats to say that wont be similar case in a couple years? Keep the younger guys who can improve, not the older ones that decline

Of course, he lost a step with injuries, but the majority of the time here he was a good skater and penalty killer. He is 3 years older than Hansen, whats to say that wont be similar case in a couple years? Keep the younger guys who can improve, not the older ones that decline
- WhiteLie

Higgins

Of course, he lost a step with injuries, but the majority of the time here he was a good skater and penalty killer. He is 3 years older than Hansen, whats to say that wont be similar case in a couple years? Keep the younger guys who can improve, not the older ones that decline
- WhiteLie

Nothing is to say Hansen will slow down nor vice versa.
Higgins never had Hansens wheels only time will tell.
Many players lose a step but some do not.

As are you.

Assuming that Hansen provides 8 non-playoff teams would all but ensure his tenure in Van is over when his contract is up next year, assuming of course he sneaks through expansion.

Assuming Hansen himself holds the ability to Assume, one would assume that Hansen knows he's likely to be picked by Vegas against his will where-as now, he actually can have some input on where he goes and ultimately spends the next 18 months of his life.
- Whiskey-Tango

I flagged you because you used "assume" and "assuming" too many times. I agree with you that Hansen will factor Vegas into his decisions....but, Whatever team trades for him may expose him to Vegas anyways. He will likely force Vancouver's hand into trading Granlund or Bae and at least that way he can control his next 18 months in Vancouver. Alternatively, he plays 3 months in Pitts and then a year in Vegas. Don't thing the family would be to happy with that. Many different scenarios at play.

Of course, he lost a step with injuries, but the majority of the time here he was a good skater and penalty killer. He is 3 years older than Hansen, whats to say that wont be similar case in a couple years? Keep the younger guys who can improve, not the older ones that decline
- WhiteLie

I agree completely

I flagged you because you used "assume" and "assuming" too many times. I agree with you that Hansen will factor Vegas into his decisions....but, Whatever team trades for him may expose him to Vegas anyways. He will likely force Vancouver's hand into trading Granlund or Bae and at least that way he can control his next 18 months in Vancouver. Alternatively, he plays 3 months in Pitts and then a year in Vegas. Don't thing the family would be to happy with that. Many different scenarios at play.
- CanuckDon

He was trying to make an ass out of you and him