Only equivalent I know was Canucks giving up Grabner for Ballard. But other contenders have given up prospects for players that could send them over the top for a Cup.
- Nuck4U

the Gillis regime then spent the next 3yrs trying to find a winger for Kesler ...it was Grabner all along

then we go Tanev and Guance for Nylander or Tanev and guance for Puularrvii and a cap dump

I know Willie D listens to me so maybe Benning will here my plea
- onesmallleap

I see back at the stretch on that again

Not that Tanev isn't worth it. Just don't think those teams are at the stage to give up prospects and top talent players for vets.

I agree Booner can cut thru the morass of crap very well👍👍
He makes intelligent observations & something Scooby could learn from😜
- Nighthawk

yes I agree.
I think scooby forgets how often people tell him hes stupid and laugh at him

God news, CGY and Nashville won so we are even further out of the playoff picture

Chances increased we make trades. Though still just as likely we do nothing because Benning is weird like that.

I see back at the stretch on that again

Not that Tanev isn't worth it. Just don't think those teams are at the stage to give up prospects and top talent players for vets.
- Nuck4U

if you don't think the Oilers are posed for a run your being pessimistic i would say , they essentially are built right now to try .

a piece like Tanev might be a cog for several years runs ...IMO he would blend seamlessly into their lineup

the Gillis regime then spent the next 3yrs trying to find a winger for Kesler ...it was Grabner all along
- onesmallleap

Yeah I hated that trade. Second it was done. Plus thought they had the lead on Hammer so what the frack pull the trigger on Ballard the busted knee first. Not like there was a line up to grab him. Wait on Hammer signing. Then look if you didn't get him. But the 1st was more then enough. That they couldn't fit Grabner on the roster was narrow thinking. Then Panthers waive him was even more evident that it wasn't necessary. Just don't give up so easily on guys with speed and scoring. Oh well.

Was one of the worst trades of the Gillis regime.

Yeah I hated that trade. Second it was done. Plus thought they had the lead on Hammer so what the frack pull the trigger on Ballard the busted knee first. Not like there was a line up to grab him. Wait on Hammer signing. Then look if you didn't get him. But the 1st was more then enough. That they couldn't fit Grabner on the roster was narrow thinking. Then Panthers waive him was even more evident of the overpayment.

Was one of the worst trades of the Gillis regime.
- Nuck4U

my beef was it should have been Raymond all along, i believe Gillis wanted to keep him and offered Grabner instead, as he was'nt a pick of his much like Bennings early moves

God news, CGY and Nashville won so we are even further out of the playoff picture

Chances increased we make trades. Though still just as likely we do nothing because Benning is weird like that.
- Retinalz

Is this gospel now lol. Maybe at this point it works against us. Nucks may appear desperate to sell. Dealing from position of weakness gets you squat usually. JB isn't about not making trades. But he's not about to sell for peanuts either.

A gif of dshiddy & scooby sharing a chair & keyboard?
- Nighthawk

thats about right

if you don't think the Oilers are posed for a run your being pessimistic i would say , they essentially are built right now to try .

a piece like Tanev might be a cog for several years runs ...IMO he would blend seamlessly into their lineup
- onesmallleap

Tanev would be huge for them of course. But are they ready now to beat top teams in the West? No, don't think so. They will make noise and lose out when the going gets rough. Goaltending isn't good enough plus D and all around scoring. Teams can shut down Mcjesus and they are lost. Remember Cullen did so in junior so it can be done in the playoffs.

I see where you were going with this like the Larsen for Hall trade in need.
Don't think they would risk moving high end prospect now to division rival. Not for Tanev. Maybe if We had a Shea Weber lol.

If we could get Erikson Ek but had to throw in a 2nd this year, I would do it in a heart beat.
- Retinalz

dont know about him...fill me in please

my beef was it should have been Raymond all along, i believe Gillis wanted to keep him and offered Grabner instead, as he was'nt a pick of his much like Bennings early moves
- onesmallleap

Yeah maybe. I thought the two of them would have worked together for Kessler though. Why MG couldn't find a way to keep both on roster was sad. Look at the 4th line plugs and press box. Tell me why they both couldn't have stayed...

dont know about him...fill me in please
- SMBDragon

Kid looks like a stud. Highly likely to be a 2c with 1c potential.

From Elite Prospects:

A very competitive center who uses his size, skill, and skating to power to the net and create scoring chances. Possesses an elite-level shot, great vision, and slick puckhandling skills; as a result, it's no surprise that he has a natural knack for scoring big goals. Offensive catalyst, but also defensively responsible. Plays a creative, 200-foot game. All-in-all, an intelligent, scoring center that is productive at both ends of the ice. (Curtis Joe, EP 2014) - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects...9633#sthash.fiPwKM7y.dpuf

dont know about him...fill me in please
- SMBDragon

Think top center for team Sweden at WJC. But don't worry Nucks aren't getting him. Wild are full of prospects but greedy bastards won't give any up for what Nucks have. You wonder why they don't go for Landy or Dutch? Oh well Nucks are doomed to scrape it out. Steaming may have had the right idea to sleep for next 3- 6 years.

if you don't think the Oilers are posed for a run your being pessimistic i would say , they essentially are built right now to try .

a piece like Tanev might be a cog for several years runs ...IMO he would blend seamlessly into their lineup
- onesmallleap

The Oil are in good shape with 8 NHL D-Men and 2 more on the farm that can play. I like Tanev alot...but we need either a center or a RW right now and dont have much to offer outside picks and prospects...unless you want Hendricks or Pakarainnen.

if you don't think the Oilers are posed for a run your being pessimistic i would say , they essentially are built right now to try .

a piece like Tanev might be a cog for several years runs ...IMO he would blend seamlessly into their lineup
- onesmallleap

and be a pain in our endeavors for years too. Pulijarvi might be worth it though Id say.

and be a pain in our endeavors for years too. Pulijarvi might be worth it though Id say.
- SMBDragon

Fuuuck...good fair deal but were so weak on RW

Think about it,,, Shink was part of a stockpile of useless prospects from the Gillis era. Someone was doing the stockpiling. Granlund does everything Shink can't... and only 2 years older...

To be honest, I think the opportunity will be there to grab Shink off of waivers on his next contract. Then you can be happy.

- boonerbuck

Oh Booner, always a bastion of wisdom and knowledge.

Yes, you might be correct, however my reasoning had more to do with long term strategy then short term gains.

I'll hand it to Benning, that trade at this point in time, remains a win. Hands down and will likely remain so. I'll gladly eat it.

But, at that time, it screamed of an attempt on managements part to claw back into the playoffs at a time when the team was sinking, as we had a plethora of center's injured and Granlund, at the expense of a potential long-term asset, was acquired in what looked like a stop-gap affair.

Fast forward to present tense, if Benning does indeed decide to stand pat or fail as he did last TDL, we risk losing Granlund and by association, Shinkaruk; for absolutely nothing. Or alternatively, Hansen or Sbisa or our UFA's to be, Burrows and Miller.

Benning appears (outside the first round atleast), to be exceedingly savy at drafting young talent, yet has contentiously failed to maintain, collect or acquire the assets needed to built upon that strength, be it prospects or picks.

I could give two (frank)s about the marginal battles won by this group with reference to short term trade wins when the war itself remains an endless affair.

At some point in time this franchise is going to need to take the inevitable kick in the nuts to move forward, and stop worrying about short term profits and petty attempts at remaining competitive.

Hopefully this TDL, followed by the draft is a step in the right direction.

Oh Booner, always a bastion of wisdom and knowledge.

Yes, you might be correct, however my reasoning had more to do with long term strategy then short term gains.

I'll hand it to Benning, that trade at this point in time, remains a win. Hands down and will likely remain so. I'll gladly eat it.

But, at that time, it screamed of an attempt on managements part to claw back into the playoffs at a time when the team was sinking, as we had a plethora of center's injured and Granlund, at the expense of a potential long-term asset, was acquired in what looked like a stop-gap affair.

Fast forward to present tense, if Benning does indeed decide to stand pat or fail as he did last TDL, we risk losing Granlund and by association, Shinkaruk; for absolutely nothing. Or alternatively, Hansen or Sbisa or our UFA's to be, Burrows and Miller.

Benning appears (outside the first round atleast), to be exceedingly savy at drafting young talent, yet has contentiously failed to maintain, collect or acquire the assets needed to built upon that strength, be it prospects or picks.

I could give two (frank)s about the marginal battles won by this group with reference to short term trade wins when the war itself remains an endless affair.

At some point in time this franchise is going to need to take the inevitable kick in the nuts to move forward, and stop worrying about short term profits and petty attempts at remaining competitive.

Hopefully this TDL, followed by the draft is a step in the right direction.
- Whiskey-Tango

Solod post...as an outsider looking in I cant really understand the direction he wants to take the Canucks in. Is he trying to rebuild or make the playoffs. Or does have some prideful notion that he can rebuild without tanking, like theres some imaginary respect to be had for such an admirable acomplishment?

The Oil are in good shape with 8 NHL D-Men and 2 more on the farm that can play. I like Tanev alot...but we need either a center or a RW right now and dont have much to offer outside picks and prospects...unless you want Hendricks or Pakarainnen.
- Larsson_fan

Care to clarify

Kid looks like a stud. Highly likely to be a 2c with 1c potential.

From Elite Prospects:

A very competitive center who uses his size, skill, and skating to power to the net and create scoring chances. Possesses an elite-level shot, great vision, and slick puckhandling skills; as a result, it's no surprise that he has a natural knack for scoring big goals. Offensive catalyst, but also defensively responsible. Plays a creative, 200-foot game. All-in-all, an intelligent, scoring center that is productive at both ends of the ice. (Curtis Joe, EP 2014) - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects...9633#sthash.fiPwKM7y.dpuf
- Retinalz

after reading that I checked some video on him. Looks skilled w great poise

Care to clarify
- Nuck4U

The deeper you look into space, the further back in time you're observing.

Solod post...as an outsider looking in I cant really understand the direction he wants to take the Canucks in. Is he trying to rebuild or make the playoffs. Or does have some prideful notion that he can rebuild without tanking, like theres some imaginary respect to be had for such an admirable acomplishment?
- Larsson_fan

Sh!t son, that's the entire point.

"We are going to rebuild on the fly".
...ok, trades our a first round center prospect he himself drafted with great potential, a second and fourth round pick for a guy who quite literally is defined as a D-man the game has passed by.

Spends 6X6 on a 31 year old Eriksson.

Leaves our farm team completely devoid of talent.

Then alternatively,

Drafts great!

Poaches other teams (Calgary's) good young players and,

Acquires some very solid NCAA free agents.

Where is this b!tch going?
How many god-dam years does rebuilding on the fly take?
We are entering year 3 and are no closer to when these bums took over!

The deeper you look into space, the further back in time you're observing.
- LeftCoaster

nice one!

Care to clarify
- Nuck4U

Klefbom Larsson
Sekeras Davidson
Nurse Russel
Gryba Laggalia
Reinhardt Fayne

Not saying Taney wouldn't be at or near the top of the list, just saying the Oilers aren't giving up assets for that type of D right now...we need forwards that can score and a backup goalie.