Hold on...my team won 5 Stanley cups...that's quite an accomplishment.
- Larsson_fan

it's the eighties now? That's almost as rich as the Laf fans claims. Notice I said team and not club. So who on the oil current team was part of the Cup wins? Wait were any even born then?

Okay so as nothing done in decades is relevant to recent times. Appreciate the lesson on how to rebuild.

But thanks for reminding me of the eighties. I was puking too much over watching the Flying V jerseys back in those days. Except for the '82 Cup run. Where waiving the white towel fed the dilusion that sucky teams and finishing in the bottom was good.

Hold on...my team won 5 Stanley cups...that's quite an accomplishment.
- Larsson_fan

Cannot take that away from u but can add some facts to it.
Oilers were never an expansion team & started with Gretzky.
U can thank our very own Nelson Skalbania for that lol

Do you know the speed of light has an exact value of 299,792,458 meters per second?
- LeftCoaster

Carl Sagan has nothing on you. How about them new planets discovered 40 light years away? Maybe you could send some nice riddle zingers that would be great for the next close encounters of the 5th kind.

Or he has chosen to forget it.
- HawkfaninBC

I have two words for you....Bill Wirtz.

One day this fan base will get rewarded with the prize. But it's had several runs of greatness and entertainment in between the hard times.

Apologies to anyone if I offended them on my stance on"top 5" picks.

Been busy have I missed any thing today?

Go Benning Go

Hold on...my team won 5 Stanley cups...that's quite an accomplishment.
- Larsson_fan

No Argument there! No reason to promote it now either.

Apologies to anyone if I offended them on my stance on"top 5" picks.

Been busy have I missed any thing today?

Go Benning Go
- Reubenkincade

We came to the conclusion that if we get a top 5 pick we should trade it for a 5th rounder, 6th rounder and 8th rounder. Odds are we will get a better player with one of those three picks, because Subban, Benn and Zetterberg were picked in those rounds.

Oh Booner, always a bastion of wisdom and knowledge.

Yes, you might be correct, however my reasoning had more to do with long term strategy then short term gains.

I'll hand it to Benning, that trade at this point in time, remains a win. Hands down and will likely remain so. I'll gladly eat it.

But, at that time, it screamed of an attempt on managements part to claw back into the playoffs at a time when the team was sinking, as we had a plethora of center's injured and Granlund, at the expense of a potential long-term asset, was acquired in what looked like a stop-gap affair.

Fast forward to present tense, if Benning does indeed decide to stand pat or fail as he did last TDL, we risk losing Granlund and by association, Shinkaruk; for absolutely nothing. Or alternatively, Hansen or Sbisa or our UFA's to be, Burrows and Miller.

Benning appears (outside the first round atleast), to be exceedingly savy at drafting young talent, yet has contentiously failed to maintain, collect or acquire the assets needed to built upon that strength, be it prospects or picks.

I could give two (frank)s about the marginal battles won by this group with reference to short term trade wins when the war itself remains an endless affair.

At some point in time this franchise is going to need to take the inevitable kick in the nuts to move forward, and stop worrying about short term profits and petty attempts at remaining competitive.

Hopefully this TDL, followed by the draft is a step in the right direction.
- Whiskey-Tango

Meh, upgrading a position by trading a 21 year old for a better 23 year old hardly reeks of trying to make the playoffs.

Sh!t son, that's the entire point.

"We are going to rebuild on the fly".
...ok, trades our a first round center prospect he himself drafted with great potential, a second and fourth round pick for a guy who quite literally is defined as a D-man the game has passed by.

Spends 6X6 on a 31 year old Eriksson.

Leaves our farm team completely devoid of talent.

Then alternatively,

Drafts great!

Poaches other teams (Calgary's) good young players and,

Acquires some very solid NCAA free agents.

Where is this b!tch going?
How many god-dam years does rebuilding on the fly take?
We are entering year 3 and are no closer to when these bums took over!
- Whiskey-Tango

I'm confused? Are you talking about the Gillis era? That was when our drafting completely failed and the cupboards were bare. All Gillis' ass lickers were defending his drafting until after he was fired. Now we actually have a few prospects... in the 1/4 of the time that Gillis had done it... and that's with trading away picks and a couple of b and C prospects.

I actually don't think this team is rebuilding on the fly. I think they are trying to improve while they wait for the teardown to start post Sedins. Maybe that's why you are so disappointed. You haven't thought it through very well.

Apologies to anyone if I offended them on my stance on"top 5" picks.

Been busy have I missed any thing today?

Go Benning Go
- Reubenkincade

I'm confused? Are you talking about the Gillis era? That was when our drafting completely failed and the cupboards were bare. All Gillis' ass lickers were defending his drafting until after he was fired. Now we actually have a few prospects... in the 1/4 of the time that Gillis had done it... and that's with trading away picks and a couple of b and C prospects.

I actually don't think this team is rebuilding on the fly. I think they are trying to improve while they wait for the teardown to start post Sedins. Maybe that's why you are so disappointed. You haven't thought it through very well.
- boonerbuck

I'm confused? Are you talking about the Gillis era? That was when our drafting completely failed and the cupboards were bare. All Gillis' ass lickers were defending his drafting until after he was fired. Now we actually have a few prospects... in the 1/4 of the time that Gillis had done it... and that's with trading away picks and a couple of b and C prospects.

I actually don't think this team is rebuilding on the fly. I think they are trying to improve while they wait for the teardown to start post Sedins. Maybe that's why you are so disappointed. You haven't thought it through very well.
- boonerbuck

Yes gillis was terrible at drafting. Not surprising though as he had ZERO experience with it going in. Im sure thats an area that experience would be important. Much like trump and presidency lol.

But he did select Bo Horvat, so it seems he did learn something in those 6 years.

I'm confused? Are you talking about the Gillis era? That was when our drafting completely failed and the cupboards were bare. All Gillis' ass lickers were defending his drafting until after he was fired. Now we actually have a few prospects... in the 1/4 of the time that Gillis had done it... and that's with trading away picks and a couple of b and C prospects.

I actually don't think this team is rebuilding on the fly. I think they are trying to improve while they wait for the teardown to start post Sedins. Maybe that's why you are so disappointed. You haven't thought it through very well.
- boonerbuck

I hear you Booner. You got it summed up. MG tried to go for it using the Nonis and Burke built up assets. Added some depth at great cost. Then bled the club dry while leaving little to nothing for the future. While giving the vets NTC contracts for taking less money. It was a mess for JB to wade through up to now. If the team won a lotto there would be more praise on the rebuild/retool of course.

I think they used the term retool as a counter to purposeful tanking. That a fire wagon tear down rebuild was not possible. But they will try to improve in layers while team was transformed.

Though one part of the point for the future might be a little more advanced. Like when the Sedins are gone what's left to start on a tear down? Won't it be complete by then? Maybe Edler will be left. Are you referring to moving a vet asset like LE?

Either way this will be a completely transformed team. Maybe some players get moved in hockey trades for areas of need. Part of more improvements. Lots to do for a rebuild of course. Fingers crossed for next couple of drafts.

Maybe some surprises come about and it's a more competitive team post Sedins. Of course, the current young players and prospects will go a long way to accomplish that. Though JB might not be around by then.

We came to the conclusion that if we get a top 5 pick we should trade it for a 5th rounder, 6th rounder and 8th rounder. Odds are we will get a better player with one of those three picks, because Subban, Benn and Zetterberg were picked in those rounds.
- Scooby_Doo

draft placement doesn't matter. Everybody knows that.

Just raising a few points...
We have Higgins & Luongo on the books leaving 1 spot to retain salary.
Sedins have a NMC's & r not wanting to leave.
Who can eat 7m in total if 1/2 COULD be retained?

So my question is how r ALL those hurdles made to disappear?
- Nighthawk

it's called 'magic'...

i was just killing some time with that comment... don't expect a dissection... just wanted to register that in general I believe the Nux gotta move all those guys in one way or another.

I hear you Booner. You got it summed up. MG tried to go for it using the Nonis and Burke built up assets. Added some depth at great cost. Then bled the club dry while leaving little to nothing for the future. While giving the vets NTC contracts for taking less money. It was a mess for JB to wade through up to now. If the team won a lotto there would be more praise on the rebuild/retool of course.

I think they used the term retool as a counter to purposeful tanking. That a fire wagon tear down rebuild was not possible. But they will try to improve in layers while team was transformed.

Though one part of the point for the future might be a little more advanced. Like when the Sedins are gone what's left to start on a tear down? Won't it be complete by then? Maybe Edler will be left. Are you referring to moving a vet asset like LE?

Either way this will be a completely transformed team. Maybe some players get moved in hockey trades for areas of need. Part of more improvements. Lots to do for a rebuild of course. Fingers crossed for next couple of drafts.

Maybe some surprises come about and it's a more competitive team post Sedins. Of course, the current young players and prospects will go a long way to accomplish that. Though JB might not be around by then.
- Nuck4U

agree

I know someone in here was asking for Joel Eriksson Ek yesterday for Jannik Hansen. I'm not sure that is going to happen. He is rated the best prospect in the Minnesota pipeline on http://mynhltraderumors.c...ild-prospects/2016/11/18/

Kirill Kaprizov is having one heck of a season in the KHL so I doubt he gets moved. Van doesn't really need a defensemen.

I'm wondering if they are asking for Alex Tuch, Luke Kunin or Jordan Greenway. Out of those 3 who would you prefer the most?

Personally I'd take Jordan Greenway.

I know someone in here was asking for Joel Eriksson Ek yesterday for Jannik Hansen. I'm not sure that is going to happen. He is rated the best prospect in the Minnesota pipeline on http://mynhltraderumors.c...ild-prospects/2016/11/18/

Kirill Kaprizov is having one heck of a season in the KHL so I doubt he gets moved. Van doesn't really need a defensemen.

I'm wondering if they are asking for Alex Tuch, Luke Kunin or Jordan Greenway. Out of those 3 who would you prefer the most?

Personally I'd take Jordan Greenway.
- manvanfan

all those guys sound like they are gonna be great players... i agree a hulking left wing goal scorer like Greenway might be nice... now if we had someone in the middle to feed the guy pucks...

frankly i don't care who we get as long as we get something... losing guys for nothing like Matthias and Hamhuis is just mental...

The question I really want an answer to is,,,, did Hansen put the Blue Jackets on his list?

all those guys sound like they are gonna be great players... i agree a hulking left wing goal scorer like Greenway might be nice... now if we had someone in the middle to feed the guy pucks...

frankly i don't care who we get as long as we get something... losing guys for nothing like Matthias and Hamhuis is just mental...
- kaptaan

Matthias had a career season here to. Walks for nothing yet TO gets a late pick and prospect for him I think. That's frustrating.

I know someone in here was asking for Joel Eriksson Ek yesterday for Jannik Hansen. I'm not sure that is going to happen. He is rated the best prospect in the Minnesota pipeline on http://mynhltraderumors.c...ild-prospects/2016/11/18/

Kirill Kaprizov is having one heck of a season in the KHL so I doubt he gets moved. Van doesn't really need a defensemen.

I'm wondering if they are asking for Alex Tuch, Luke Kunin or Jordan Greenway. Out of those 3 who would you prefer the most?

Personally I'd take Jordan Greenway.
- manvanfan

Greenway would be huge

all those guys sound like they are gonna be great players... i agree a hulking left wing goal scorer like Greenway might be nice... now if we had someone in the middle to feed the guy pucks...

frankly i don't care who we get as long as we get something... losing guys for nothing like Matthias and Hamhuis is just mental...
- kaptaan

well
I guess something is better then nothing. Move Sutter to a wing and put Granlund in the middle? Even though Granlund seems to be a goal scorer now.

Greenway would be huge
- VANTEL

i've comprised a list of 21 players that i'd like to see Van draft this year.

The question I really want an answer to is,,,, did Hansen put the Blue Jackets on his list?
- boonerbuck