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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yes gillis was terrible at drafting. Not surprising though as he had ZERO experience with it going in. Im sure thats an area that experience would be important. Much like trump and presidency lol.

But he did select Bo Horvat, so it seems he did learn something in those 6 years.

- SMBDragon


not really up to the GM to draft, but rather to find the right people to draft/scout. I think it helps when your GM is a former player/has scout experience but its not really his top priority as a GM to be a head scout.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:32 AM ET
I know someone in here was asking for Joel Eriksson Ek yesterday for Jannik Hansen. I'm not sure that is going to happen. He is rated the best prospect in the Minnesota pipeline on http://mynhltraderumors.c...ild-prospects/2016/11/18/

Kirill Kaprizov is having one heck of a season in the KHL so I doubt he gets moved. Van doesn't really need a defensemen.

I'm wondering if they are asking for Alex Tuch, Luke Kunin or Jordan Greenway. Out of those 3 who would you prefer the most?

Personally I'd take Jordan Greenway.

- manvanfan

the Wild aren't giving a top prospect for Hansen
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:35 AM ET
the Wild aren't giving a top prospect for Hansen
- CanuckDon


nope. I would assume a mid range prospect and a mid round pick at best.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:36 AM ET
the Wild aren't giving a top prospect for Hansen
- CanuckDon


If there's the interest from several teams, someone will.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:37 AM ET
nope. I would assume a mid range prospect and a mid round pick at best.
- Codes1087

I always find it fascinating how much we over value our players. Apparently Benning included
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:37 AM ET
If there's the interest from several teams, someone will.
- VanHockeyGuy

Rutherford is the only one stupid enough to overpay that much
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
Rutherford is the only one stupid enough to overpay that much
- CanuckDon


I don't think JB has a problem hanging on to Hansen if the right offer isn't there. I still think he stands pat.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 24 @ 10:40 AM ET
Greenway would be huge
- VANTEL

Really liked what he showed at the WJC. Would love to have him in the prospect pool.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:41 AM ET
I always find it fascinating how much we over value our players. Apparently Benning included
- CanuckDon


I feel like all I have done here in the last 3 weeks Is argue with people on how much they overvalue all of our roster players and prospects lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
I don't think JB has a problem hanging on to Hansen if the right offer isn't there. I still think he stands pat.
- VanHockeyGuy

Then he needs to trade Granlund for anything...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:42 AM ET
I feel like all I have done here in the last 3 weeks Is argue with people on how much they overvalue all of our roster players and prospects lol
- Codes1087

I've been doing that for 2 years
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:44 AM ET
I don't think JB has a problem hanging on to Hansen if the right offer isn't there. I still think he stands pat.
- VanHockeyGuy


I disagree. I think Hansen will have a new home by Wednesday. Exposing Granlund and his 900k cap hit contract would be ridiculous. It would kind of be funny of Shinkaruk and Granlund both got claimed but we don't really need to dive into that lol. Granlund is 7 years younger than Hansen, and Hansen's value has peaked, trade him now.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'm confused? Are you talking about the Gillis era? That was when our drafting completely failed and the cupboards were bare. All Gillis' ass lickers were defending his drafting until after he was fired. Now we actually have a few prospects... in the 1/4 of the time that Gillis had done it... and that's with trading away picks and a couple of b and C prospects.

I actually don't think this team is rebuilding on the fly. I think they are trying to improve while they wait for the teardown to start post Sedins. Maybe that's why you are so disappointed. You haven't thought it through very well.

- boonerbuck


Lol no.
I'm talking about the contradictions in this team's own game plan.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 10:49 AM ET
I know someone in here was asking for Joel Eriksson Ek yesterday for Jannik Hansen. I'm not sure that is going to happen. He is rated the best prospect in the Minnesota pipeline on http://mynhltraderumors.c...ild-prospects/2016/11/18/

Kirill Kaprizov is having one heck of a season in the KHL so I doubt he gets moved. Van doesn't really need a defensemen.

I'm wondering if they are asking for Alex Tuch, Luke Kunin or Jordan Greenway. Out of those 3 who would you prefer the most?

Personally I'd take Jordan Greenway.

- manvanfan


Nice list, if I had my choice I would go for Kunin. Former 1st rounder, nearly PPG as a freshman and over ppg as sophomore, but I think that is wayyyy too high of a price for Hansen.

I think Greenway might be possible as a former 2nd rounder, depending on other factors of the deal
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:52 AM ET
Nice list, if I had my choice I would go for Kunin. Former 1st rounder, nearly PPG as a freshman and over ppg as sophomore, but I think that is wayyyy too high of a price for Hansen.

I think Greenway might be possible as a former 2nd rounder, depending on other factors of the deal

- WhiteLie


I think if the wild are willing to part with one of their top prospects they will be getting a player a lot better than Hansen
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
I always find it fascinating how much we over value our players. Apparently Benning included
- CanuckDon

I think you overvalue how much a player who has never played a single game in the NHL is worth. Isn't it you who is harping on Hutton because he has only played 1.5 years and yet to prove himself.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
Then he needs to trade Granlund for anything...
- CanuckDon


https://twitter.com/DimFi...oto/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Let me know when you see it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
Nice list, if I had my choice I would go for Kunin. Former 1st rounder, nearly PPG as a freshman and over ppg as sophomore, but I think that is wayyyy too high of a price for Hansen.

I think Greenway might be possible as a former 2nd rounder, depending on other factors of the deal

- WhiteLie

Wild seem to be more in need of futures C then on the wings.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think if the wild are willing to part with one of their top prospects they will be getting a player a lot better than Hansen
- Redmile247


Does Greenway fit that bill as top prospect? I dont know much about him but looking at his stats he seems likely to be a 3rd liner. The list didnt even have him ahead of Mike Reilly, who I dont peg as a top prospect
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 24 @ 10:57 AM ET
https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/832286530395787264/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Let me know when you see it.

- Codes1087

Extend him!! Give him 8 years!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
Extend him!! Give him 8 years!
- NorthNuck


but people will still find a way to cry and whine about him.

stats don't lie
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
Does Greenway fit that bill as top prospect? I dont know much about him but looking at his stats he seems likely to be a 3rd liner. The list didnt even have him ahead of Mike Reilly, who I dont peg as a top prospect
- WhiteLie


Guy was unreal for the states at the juniors and is just about a point a game this year ...he is going to be a lot better than a 3rd liner
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 11:05 AM ET
Guy was unreal for the states at the juniors and is just about a point a game this year ...he is going to be a lot better than a 3rd liner
- Redmile247

Oh so boeser should be a first liner since he almost doubled his point total last year. I heard alex kerfoot was never going to make the NHL and he's a ppg player albeit 2 years old.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
I always find it fascinating how much we over value our players. Apparently Benning included
- CanuckDon


Yeah we are the only fan base to do this.

I find it fascinating how self deprecating we are, typical Canadians.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
Guy was unreal for the states at the juniors and is just about a point a game this year ...he is going to be a lot better than a 3rd liner
- Redmile247


There have been plenty of World Junior stars that dont pan out, his 13 goals in 70 college games on a top team are what have me less thrilled about his top 6 abilities at the NHL level. Gaudette is on a bottom feeder in the same league putting up well above a PPG and we realistically have him 3C ceiling...

EDIT: and for what its worth, that list also has a 7th rounder with bottom 6 potential ahead of him too
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