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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
Eriksson Ek and a first?! I'll have what he's having. If we could get that alone, that would be amazing. Another pick on top? Eriksson Ek is legit one of the best if not the best player not in the show right now.
- neem55

If we could get Erikson Ek but had to throw in a 2nd this year, I would do it in a heart beat.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
Eriksson Ek and a first?! I'll have what he's having. If we could get that alone, that would be amazing. Another pick on top? Eriksson Ek is legit one of the best if not the best player not in the show right now.
- neem55

i'm burning this place down if benning doesn't get AT LEAST that!
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:46 PM ET
i'm burning this place down if benning doesn't get AT LEAST that!
- RealityChecker

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:46 PM ET
Is that like using a selfie for your avatar?
- Marwood


WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:47 PM ET
username checks out.
- RealityChecker


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
no doubt..some on here just feel the need to attack and provoke people for whatever reason
- onesmallleap


Yes well i'll spar & trade barbs with that ilk occasionally.
Generally I look at the source & feel pity 😂😂
Namely those who post nothing hockey related & only here to stir it up.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:52 PM ET
Zogg has never been the same since the night Clagary took out The Canucks in the 1st round the other year.
Perhaps the most epic melt-down prior to buddy losing his sh*t the night Vantel told him he didn't read his posts.

- Marwood

That wasn't nice of me
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
for Grandlund and Hansen? to a team with cup aspirations? i would think so .

and , oh , i did say it was dependant on success in the playoffs and thats what teams will pay for.

not withstanding if you heard BMac today you would know that in his opinion that the Wild are loath to trade their existing prospects but with the inclusion of Grandlund that is eased in a way and it would give them a brother pair which has shown through NHL history to being a benefit contract wise going forward

- onesmallleap


It's a really interesting trade because of that chemistry, but Eriksson Ek might be the best forward not in the NHL right now. A first on top, it might work but that is a lot. I think a second might be more reasonable, but that's a creative trade and isn't too much cap.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 23 @ 10:00 PM ET
If it's any indication, I did not take that trade very well at all. Still don't like the principle of it ( prospect for player at a time when we should be stock pilling) though that has come out nicely.

Honestly, I could care less about the returns, so long as there is some semblance of action to reduce the likely hood of losing assets for nothing.

I.E, asset management

- Whiskey-Tango


Think about it,,, Shink was part of a stockpile of useless prospects from the Gillis era. Someone was doing the stockpiling. Granlund does everything Shink can't... and only 2 years older...

To be honest, I think the opportunity will be there to grab Shink off of waivers on his next contract. Then you can be happy.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:02 PM ET
It's a really interesting trade because of that chemistry, but Eriksson Ek might be the best forward not in the NHL right now. A first on top, it might work but that is a lot. I think a second might be more reasonable, but that's a creative trade and isn't too much cap.
- neem55


If we get a net gain at a reasonable price i'm down.
Minny looks good this year but top prospects r hard to get.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:03 PM ET
Think about it,,, Shink was part of a stockpile of useless prospects from the Gillis era. Someone was doing the stockpiling. Granlund does everything Shink can't... and only 2 years older...

To be honest, I think the opportunity will be there to grab Shink off of waivers on his next contract. Then you can be happy.

- boonerbuck

onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:04 PM ET
If we get a net gain at a reasonable price i'm down.
Minny looks good this year but top prospects r hard to get.

- Nighthawk

i'd say Stanley Cups are harder to get
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 10:08 PM ET
Think about it,,, Shink was part of a stockpile of useless prospects from the Gillis era. Someone was doing the stockpiling. Granlund does everything Shink can't... and only 2 years older...

To be honest, I think the opportunity will be there to grab Shink off of waivers on his next contract. Then you can be happy.

- boonerbuck

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 23 @ 10:14 PM ET
i believe we have to think more practically as a fanbase and look to getting and giving a bit more . so lets say Hansen and Grandlund to the Wild for Ek and a first this year dependent on a western final appearance, and an added second next year on a cup finale appearance , with the first this year transferring to next year if they lose in the first 2 rounds
- onesmallleap



I see where you are going with this and nice out of the box thinking. Guess it depends on how close the Wild think they were to the Cup and their window to get it.

Though, besides the no more Swedes policy some have, Ek wouldn't replace the 40 goals lost going forward. He's a good talent for sure. Would be nice to have. The draft picks may help balance it out. But it would be a risk for sure. As it looks like a 29 and 59 something picks at best; or what at worst? It would take like 4/5 years to know.

Hansen or would Granlund for Ek straight up work? Depends how close Wild thought one of them would bring them for their Cup goal. EK for the Wild is a couple years away. Wild might be out of their window with the group they have now by then.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:15 PM ET
If we could get Erikson Ek but had to throw in a 2nd this year, I would do it in a heart beat.
- Retinalz


would be Yuge.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:17 PM ET
I see where you are going with this and nice out of the box thinking. Guess it depends on how close the Wild think their window is now.

Though, besides the no more Swedes policy some have, Ek wouldn't replace the 40 goals lost going forward. He's a good talent for sure. Would be nice to have. The draft picks may help balance it out. But it would be a risk for sure. As it looks like a 29 and 59 something picks at best; or what at worst? It would take like 4/5 years to know.

Hansen or would Granlund for Ek straight up work? Depends how close Wild thought one of them would bring them for their window. EK for the Wild is a couple years away. Wild might be out of their window with the group they have now by then.

- Nuck4U

if he could end up being our first line centre with Bo as a close 2nd ? thats progress

the draft picks end up being icing on the cake
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:20 PM ET
I see where you are going with this and nice out of the box thinking. Guess it depends on how close the Wild think their window is now.

Though, besides the no more Swedes policy some have, Ek wouldn't replace the 40 goals lost going forward. He's a good talent for sure. Would be nice to have. The draft picks may help balance it out. But it would be a risk for sure. As it looks like a 29 and 59 something picks at best; or what at worst? It would take like 4/5 years to know.

Hansen or would Granlund for Ek straight up work? Depends how close Wild thought one of them would bring them for their window. EK for the Wild is a couple years away. Wild might be out of their window with the group they have now by then.

- Nuck4U


40?! That's kind of similar to the 20 they have between them, but not quite the same. Eriksson Ek is worth more than Granlund straight up. Hansen for him might be equal value, even that is a stretch.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:29 PM ET
40?! That's kind of similar to the 20 they have between them, but not quite the same. Eriksson Ek is worth more than Granlund straight up. Hansen for him might be equal value, even that is a stretch.
- neem55

exactly and thats why the optioned first , dependent on success , worst case the wild lose in the first 2 rds and we get EK and a defered 1st wich will still be in the 23 -31 range ? for Hansen and a young Grandlund...
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
then we go Tanev and Guance for Nylander or Tanev and guance for Puularrvii and a cap dump

I know Willie D listens to me so maybe Benning will here my plea
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
then we go Tanev and Guance for Nylander or Tanev and guance for Puularrvii and a cap dump
- onesmallleap

I see you have your rose colored glasses on tonight. Always were a dreamer
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
I see you have your rose colored glasses on tonight. Always were a dreamer
- CanuckDon


every big success starts with a little dream
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
40?! That's kind of similar to the 20 they have between them, but not quite the same. Eriksson Ek is worth more than Granlund straight up. Hansen for him might be equal value, even that is a stretch.
- neem55


You are saying Hansen and Granlund are not 20 goal scorers but are 10 goal depth only

It's what any player is worth now to getting the Wild a Cup this year or next. Ek won't so his future 4/5 years from now does squat for that goal.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 23 @ 10:37 PM ET
if he could end up being our first line centre with Bo as a close 2nd ? thats progress

the draft picks end up being icing on the cake

- onesmallleap



On the Nucks side it's a big win for the future. No doubt.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
You are saying Hansen and Granlund are not 20 goal scorers

It's what any player is worth now to getting the Wild a Cup this year or next. Ek won't so his future 4/5 years from now does squat for that goal.

- Nuck4U

if we were closer would we give up Boeser for a same return?

speaking of Boeser , the state of Minnesota is probably the closest thing to the Canadian marketplaces for teams , and the Cup is all there , 1 year winner means the fans can take some loss for a long time after
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Feb 23 @ 10:43 PM ET
if we were closer would we give up Boeser for a same return?
- onesmallleap



Only equivalent I know was Canucks giving up Grabner plus a 1st for Ballard. Last I heard Grabner was still scoring goals and Ballard wondering what happened to his career lol.

But other contenders have given up prospects for players that could send them over the top for a Cup. So you never know.
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